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  • Tsuki
    Pro
    • Jul 2010
    • 637

    #1786
    Re: Overwatch

    symmetra is not op.

    She is more of a pick then she used to be which is a good sign of a good buff kinda reminds me of zenyatta's buff.

    Now you shouldn't be dying 1v1 to symmetra especially with hero's who have movement. But if you got caught in her traps while surrounded by her team cant get mad at that.
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    • Speedy
      #Ace
      • Apr 2008
      • 16143

      #1787
      Re: Overwatch

      I know others think D.Va is not OP and she has counters...

      ...but I cannot stand her now. She is a must-pick tank it seems in matches I see; I rarely see Winston now. It's D.Va and another tank of choice.
      Originally posted by Gibson88
      Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
      It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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      • redsox4evur
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2013
        • 18169

        #1788
        Re: Overwatch

        How does everyone feel about Bastion? I ****ing hate it.
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        • kingkilla56
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2009
          • 19395

          #1789
          Overwatch

          Originally posted by Speedy
          I know others think D.Va is not OP and she has counters...



          ...but I cannot stand her now. She is a must-pick tank it seems in matches I see; I rarely see Winston now. It's D.Va and another tank of choice.

          She's got too much utility. It's not even arguable. Only a Dva Stan would argue otherwise.

          Originally posted by redsox4evur
          How does everyone feel about Bastion? I ****ing hate it.

          He wrecks house against teams that refuse to counter him. But he's less effective nowadays with people generally learning the game more. Same reason Trob is nowhere near the problem he used to be at launch (on console).


          Edit also there's nothing op about Symmetra. She's literally always had that high dps. The range has just made her more annoying to avoid.
          Last edited by kingkilla56; 12-31-2016, 12:21 AM.
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          • KSUowls
            All Star
            • Jul 2009
            • 5889

            #1790
            Re: Overwatch

            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            Roster size expanding won't help anything. Because there will always be the optimal 6, because blizzard can't help themselves. The only thing we can hope for is that the optimal 6 isnt significantly more effective than the next team comp and so on and so forth. But I have little faith in blizzard as a whole when it comes to balancing their behemoth games.
            To a certain degree you are right. There will probably always be a set(s) of heroes who are in the meta, and they will stay there until Blizzard does something balance wise or the player base discovers a new "meta". However, I do think that we can get to a point where there are multiple "meta" strategies at the top level through expansion.

            Why is multi tank so good? Yes, a big part is the fact tanks (especially D.va) have quite a bit of utility. The reason it is so unstoppable though is because there isn't a tank busting counter with our current roster selection. I would liken this to another Blizzard game Starcraft 2. There are a wide array of units that you can make for your army, some of which are generally better than most. There is always a counter set of units that your opponent can make though if they scout it. This is what Overwatch needs. So, even if there is a so called "meta" team comp, there will be a hard counter to it making it less powerful overall since their opponent can bust it up. I also think this would make the game more fun since it would force more in game hero swapping.



            -Symmetra is really strong on certain maps and especially at certain skill levels. I wouldn't say she's OP, she is just viable now, and a lot of fun to play.

            -Bastion isn't OP, but I hate his hero design and wish they would look at changing him. He's just completely un-fun. Both to play as and against. He can either be completely unstoppable or completely useless.


            I know why they did it, but I really wish Blizzard would increase the range of competitive, or do something with it to eliminate the barriers for playing with friends. I played all 10 of my placement matches for season 3 in the same 6 stack. I have yet to play my 11th competitive match of season 3 though because I placed 2550 in Season 3, while 2 of my friends were below 1400.

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            • Speedy
              #Ace
              • Apr 2008
              • 16143

              #1791
              Re: Overwatch

              Interesting note on the dev blog last week...they are looking to nerf Ana.
              Originally posted by Gibson88
              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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              • KSUowls
                All Star
                • Jul 2009
                • 5889

                #1792
                Re: Overwatch

                Completed the 15 games with a friend in Hots challenge last night to get the Genji oni skin. That was painful. Got to try out the new map oasis that launched too though which was cool. It seems really small. You get to the control point from spawn very fast.
                Last edited by KSUowls; 01-04-2017, 09:32 AM.

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                • KSUowls
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5889

                  #1793
                  Re: Overwatch

                  YES!!!!!! roadhog hook fix going to Ptr in the very near future. The tldr version is that if you are hooked you will now be placed directly in front of road, before you could be placed off to the side or in the air. However, there are now real line of sight checks from roadhogs position so that he has to be able to physically see you through the entire hook process or the hook will miss. This will make it much less frustrating to deal with, and it should reduce his overall effectiveness. You will be punished for being caught out of position, but he can't pick you off for peeking around a corner to take a few shots

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                  • The_Wise_One
                    Why Not Us?
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2633

                    #1794
                    Re: Overwatch

                    I play a ton of hog and these are perfect changes. A nice buff with placement after hooks. Hopefully this means heroes like Ana will actually get pulled closer. Also the needed nerf of LOS. It was getting ridiculous
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                    • KSUowls
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5889

                      #1795
                      Re: Overwatch

                      Yeah I don't really play him, but I think these are great changes. Hog has never been OP to me. He has one of the 2 or 3 largest hit boxes in the game, no armor, very slow movement, and a short range gun. His hook was always broken which made him both more effective and frustrating to deal with. This should help balance him giving him a much tighter window for landing a hook while also rewarding him for those skill shots. He will still be a key player in the the tank meta, but this should help.

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                      • ComfortablyLomb
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3548

                        #1796
                        Re: Overwatch

                        Hog isn't OP, he's just frustrating to play against because his hook is so wonky. I actually love seeing him on the other team. He acts as a fast way to charge my ult and is generally a worse pick than any of the other tanks just because their skill sets are pretty much all more useful to a team.

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                        • jbd345
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 2436

                          #1797
                          Re: Overwatch

                          Can't wait for rodhog fix. How they choose play of the game needs some updating too. Had a Mei quad feed that somehow lost to a junkrat Rip tire triple kill annoying.

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                          • KSUowls
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5889

                            #1798
                            Re: Overwatch

                            Haven't seen it but saw on reddit that a pretty significant patch was just posted. The roadhog fix, plus a nerf to Ana's grenade (having down to 50% boost), D. VA had 200 armor converted to normal health and had a slight reduction to her overall dose.

                            The 3 of these combined are pretty huge.

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                            • kingkilla56
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 19395

                              #1799
                              Re: Overwatch

                              Originally posted by KSUowls
                              Haven't seen it but saw on reddit that a pretty significant patch was just posted. The roadhog fix, plus a nerf to Ana's grenade (having down to 50% boost), D. VA had 200 armor converted to normal health and had a slight reduction to her overall dose.

                              The 3 of these combined are pretty huge.


                              I love it too. Bye bye Dva.
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                              • KSUowls
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5889

                                #1800
                                Re: Overwatch

                                Apparently this is a patch for the PTR. So we'll see it tested out there a bit before live servers get it.

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