Overwatch

[kingkilla56]

Re: Overwatch

Weird seeing people rage about road hogs fix. They're upset that the hook breaks if the target gets behind cover. Isn't that the point? If the hook line clips into solid objects on the map it should break.

Also Dva mains crying about being melted. Boo ****ing hoo man. Easy *** character. Y'all deserve irrelevancy.

[KSUowls]

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Yeah it's funny. It's not like they really nerfed him. I would say that they just fixed him. Yeah not being able to hook around walls is a nerf, but it's also easier to line up a shot on someone you did hook. The hook physics have always been ridiculous. Happy to see the change, in theory.

I think D.va will still probably be fine. She should hopefully move from must pick category into simply viable category.

[Bornindamecca]

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I think Roadhog will wind up around the same. He didn't rely on BS hooks and I can say there were a lot of times where he hooked me and should have had the kill and didn't get the kill. Main thing is this makes Soldier much stronger in the matchup. Soldier will be able to play closer to the fight and rely on outplays on Roadhog rather than just being forced to map him. Other than that, RH will require some skill adjustments, but eventually he'll be where he is now, more consistent but less BS. Won't affect his matchups vs D.Va, Pharah, Rein or the healers and if it does, likely to his benefit.

Sorry he's not dumb easy anymore :P

[kingkilla56]

Overwatch

Oh don't worry soldier is next. I think characters will slowly be reverted back to their launch stats.

Also they need to revert winstons shield back to before his buff.i also wouldn't mind 300/300 health on Dva.

Sombra needs either a faster cast on her hack or a more forgiving cool down on it. Also her translocation should be proximity canceled and not timer canceled.

[Bornindamecca]

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Oh don't worry soldier is next. I think characters will slowly be reverted back to their launch stats.

Also they need to revert winstons shield back to before his buff.i also wouldn't mind 300/300 health on Dva.

Sombra needs either a faster cast on her hack or a more forgiving cool down on it. Also her translocation should be proximity canceled and not timer canceled.

I think they're looking to bring the DPS more in line with Soldier's effectiveness, not the other way around. Most people feel that Soldier is in a good place, and Reaper, Widow, Hanzo, McCree and Genji are a little behind right now. Tracer, Pharah and Soldier are all working well, it's just that Soldier's kit is versatile, so he becomes a must-pick.

[redsox4evur]

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I think they're looking to bring the DPS more in line with Soldier's effectiveness, not the other way around. Most people feel that Soldier is in a good place, and Reaper, Widow, Hanzo, McCree and Genji are a little behind right now. Tracer, Pharah and Soldier are all working well, it's just that Soldier's kit is versatile, so he becomes a must-pick.

Also you have the guys like me, who pick this game semi-blind and Soldier is a perfect class them to learn how to play. Because you can use him kinda like in a COD game and have healing abilities.


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[The_Wise_One]

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They probably want to take baby steps with Sombra after the way they handled Ana. They buffed her into THE meta hero and brought about the overflow of tanks.

I've never really played a game involving constant changes to characters. Seems like they are going in circles with buffs and nerfs but it also makes the game feel fresh when someone becomes viable.

Kingkilla mentioned reverting Winstons shield back. What was it before?

[Speedy]

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I'm still not a fan of a character's healing charging their ult...seems like Mei gets constant ults if the user is good.

[kingkilla56]

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They probably want to take baby steps with Sombra after the way they handled Ana. They buffed her into THE meta hero and brought about the overflow of tanks.

I've never really played a game involving constant changes to characters. Seems like they are going in circles with buffs and nerfs but it also makes the game feel fresh when someone becomes viable.

Kingkilla mentioned reverting Winstons shield back. What was it before?

I forget exactly but it was tougher, more hp. They nerfed it down back when you could hero stack and double Winston double tracer double lucio was godly at extending overtime.

[kingkilla56]

Overwatch

Guyz, guyz...I'm starting to feel bad for Dva. Maybe they should just nerf Ana's grenades and shot speed. Dva melts soooooo fast because soldier is just too op to handle right now.

[KSUowls]

Re: Overwatch

So, I thought it might be kind of cool to put up some our own hero guides together. There are a ton on the internet already which are great to read. For many of us though, some of those guides are great theory but don't necessarily work in practice because we aren't masters level players. Hearing how to play McCree from pro's like IDDQD and Taimou is great unless you don't have their insane headshot accuracy. Similarly, you get listen to a pro team talk about great tank meta strategies, and who you should focus fire but without the necessary skill that may not be relevant. Try to be as thorough as possible and not just a general "if you're

If you want to participate then just a few basic rules.

1 - State what platform you are playing on (things may differ)
2 - State your season rank (if applicable). You can also add average rank range and prior season rank. This is so that people know at what level your tips may be effective. If you don't really play a lot of competitive then just say it works in Quick Play.
3 - Only talk about heroes that you play a lot, and have had success with (even if you have good points to make about another hero). For instance, I know in theory what a Reinhardt is supposed to do and what he should be good at. I rarely play him though, and I don't play him well when I do. So, I'm not going to make a write-up about him.
4 - Don't be disrespectful. We are all at different skill levels, and what may work for sound incredibly dumb to a diamond level player could be really effective at SR 1700. Suggestions are welcome though as are follow up questions.

[KSUowls]

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Tracer

Platform - PC
SR 1 - 53 (56 high)
SR 2 - 2798
SR 3 - 2597

She is as good as you make her. You need to get up close and personal with good headshot accuracy to be effective. Seems self explanatory, but getting those burst headshots are the difference between taking down low HP heroes like Zenyatta instantly and giving that Zenyatta a chance to fight back as you reload because you just hit bunch of body shots. More important than your accuracy though is your management of your blink/recall cooldowns as well as your role. Managing her mobility correctly will make up for most of any headshot difficult you have with her until you really start advancing the ranks. She is high risk high reward.

When to Pick Her: (for all of these write-ups I will be ignoring “Meta”. At my level it really doesn’t matter)

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Tracer is (can be) actually quite good on all maps and against almost any team comp. Any team you are against will most likely have support characters (which Tracer is good for dealing with). And she just has a lot of tools at her disposal to cause the enemy all kinds of problems with quick assassinations and distracting them.

I would consider switching to her mid game if they have a problematic Ana or Zenyatta who is carrying them. Another good time to switch to her is if you have been running a death ball that can't quite clear the point. Diving in behind and causing havoc may be a good change of pace to allow the rest of your team to push through.

When to Switch:

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The easiest way to know if you should switch is to look at your K/D. Tracer should be getting a lot of kills and not dying a lot. The close you get to 1:1 K/D ratio then the more you should consider switching because her value is in getting those key picks and being a nuisance. Neither of which she can do if she’s running back from spawn. This isn’t a 100% rule, but just be smart about it. I played a game as Tracer once in competitive where I had a decent K/D ratio, but the other team also had a Tracer who was near the top of Diamond level. I lost every engagement against that Tracer and then that Tracer was free to go pick off my own team. At the same time though, say you’re dying a lot, but each time you die you are also taking out the other team’s Ana. That’s a 1 for 1 trade that might be ok taking, because you have just knocked out one of the core pieces in their lineup.

Roles
Offense

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There are two ways to play her. Either offensively or defensively (roles, not as in are you attacking or defending a point).

The offensive Tracer is probably the most popular and well understood. Your job is to be an annoying pest and assassin. Take free shots at the enemy when you can from the side/back, and especially try to cause as much distraction as you can when the rest of your team is pushing a point. This will give you ult charge and force your opponent to split his concentration between you and the rest of your team engaging them from the front. Alternatively, you can hang back as your team engages, then blink in right on top of an enemy Ana, Zenyatta, Mercy to take them out while their team is distracted and then immediately recall out.

You can also try to poke their spawn. Pick off individuals trying to run back to the fight or regroup. You must choose your targets carefully though. See the hero matchups for targets that you should avoid.

Defense (Payload and Control Point map types)

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Yes you can play a defensive Tracer. This means kind of hanging out near your back line around your mid range DPS and support and/or the payload. It may be counter intuitive to play her like this since you reduce the potential impact she can have on the game, but you also reduce a lot of the risk involved with playing her. The key here is to use her in kind of a hybrid role. Defend your supports against diving flankers like Tracer, Genji, Winston when necessary (yes even Winston because you aren’t 1v1. He either focuses you which keeps him off your back line, or he focuses them where you can lay in your burst damage freely). Always be mobile and gauge the situation. If your back line is not in danger then scout out the surround (short range) area so that you can jump in behind the enemy when they engage onto yours. This style can work on payload maps where, but I find it most effective on Control points like Ilios.

General Hero Matchups: I’ll try to avoid too many obvious things like (don’t stand in front of Bastion’s turret). While this is obviously true for any hero, Tracer is one that really relies on the element of surprise. There are a number of matchups that she can win even if engaging head on, but with her mobility your goal should always to be hit them when they aren’t looking your way. Don’t blink unnecessarily, and don’t move around in 1 place so that when you recall you’re still right in front of them.

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Offense:.
Pharah – Avoid! unless you happen to find one walking on the ground. Not explanation needed.
McCree/Genji – The goal here is to bait out the stun/deflect. If you manage to do that then you hold a big advantage.
Soldier – His kit actually works as an overall counter to you, but a good Tracer does not have to run away from a Soldier engagement. If you can hit him with the surprise attack.

Defense:
Mei - You hold a slight advantage over Mei (slight). Her Primary fire is mostly ineffective against you, but her alt fire will 1 shot you if she lands a head shot. Fortunately your mobility plus the delay on her alt fire makes it hard to hit consistently. However, her ice wall + cryo freeze can prolong the fight though, and in general the longer a fight goes the more disadvantageous it is for Tracer. Both are great 1v1 heroes which makes this a pretty even fight overall, but if the other team has a problematic Mei then my usual answer is either another Mei or Tracer. Control point –
Junkrat/Hanzo – Both characters can kill you instantly, but you should be able to kill them first. Hanzo will normally be aiming one direction so come at him from behind and lay those headshots into him. Junkrat might have some traps lying around so watch out for those. If you don’t get trapped though then his only real defense his throwing his mine and trying to detonate it on you.
Bastion – Your advantage is the ability to get behind him undetected. If you don’t do this and kill him instantly though, you’re dead.
Torjborn – If he’s with his turret then just don’t unless you have your ult. Even then it can be tricky depending on how far you have to blink. If he’s away from it then you have a good chance, but he has plenty of defense against you with his small hit box and powerful weapon. You should still win though as long as you avoid his shotgun blast.

Widowmaker – If you can get to her then you win. If she’s up on a ledge that you can’t get on top of then leave her alone.
Winston/D.va/Zarya – All 3 have good, easy to hit, short range damage. All 3 have good health pools, and 2 of them have mobility. Just don’t.
Reinhardt – If you somehow manage to get a Rein isolated 1v1 then you absolutely should not lose this. If you do then you messed up. If he tries to fight you then you will just kill him because he can’t get to you. If he puts his shield up then just force the stalemate until his team comes to help then run away.

Roadhog – Hook = death, and it only takes 1 or 2 good shots landing to kill a squishy Tracer without it. Good management of your blinks/recall and paying attention to his animations can win this for you though. It’s not an ideal fight, but there are times where it may be worth the risk.
Ana/Lucio/Zenyatta/Mercy – While 3 of these do have some decent defense against you, you should not be scared of any of these engagements. If you’re accurate then none of these have a chance against
Symmetra – You both have similar effective ranges. The difference is her primary fire auto locks and it will melt you even without her turrets. You might be able to kill her if you keep your distance, but your damage will be too inconsistent at that range. If you need to kill the symmetra pick someone else.

Communication/Ult Management

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You have one of the fastest charging ults in the game. Use it! You don't have to go for the sexy pulse bomb on a group of 4. Stick that bomb on the Ana or Zenyatta before the fight starts and you give your team a huge advantage, even if that is the only kill you get with it. Of course though, if you have a Zarya on your team try to time your ults together because it is one of the best combinations. A pulse bomb on a Roadhog can also be effective if you can stick around long enough to follow up on the damage since it won't instant kill him. Avoid dropping it on another Tracer, Mei, or Reaper though, and be careful dropping it on a Reinhardt. All of these characters have a movement or defensive ability which make your bomb explode harmlessly.

Don't be afraid to tell your team where you are. If you dive in and get a pick on one of their healers or key DPS and recall then let your team know that they have the advantage.

Took a while to do this, but it was kind of fun to really think about the role of the heroes I play the most. I'm thinking about also doing one for.

Let me know what you think, and if you liked it I'm thinking about doing one for one of these heroes. Let me know if I should prioritize one first.
Ana
Zenyatta
Lucio
Mei
Soldier

[kingkilla56]

Re: Overwatch

That's a pretty thorough review. Any tips on how to actually use her tools in an engagement? Like when to blink, how to manage blink and recall? any tips and tricks on how to win engagements you probably shouldn't with her? That kind of thing.

[Brandwin]

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Is it me or does no one talk on Overwatch? Don't know why I just realized it but I never hear anyone. This is on PS4

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[Speedy]

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Is it me or does no one talk on Overwatch? Don't know why I just realized it but I never hear anyone. This is on PS4

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Do you have it set to auto-join?