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  • Speedy
    #Ace
    • Apr 2008
    • 16143

    #1681
    Re: Overwatch

    Originally posted by KSUowls
    Watched some gameplay of her from Blizzcon. My god she looks both OP and a ton of fun to play. 60 round mag SMG with effective range roughly that of Soldier 76. The spread is a little more than his but she still melts tanks. Effective against Pharah too.

    Her teleport beacon lasts 15 seconds after it has been placed so you can dive in to an enemy group to harass and recall to the beacon when they spot you. Or it can be used offensively for mobility.

    Her hacks prevent a hero from using their abilities for like 6 seconds I think. And she can hack health packs to A - speed up the rate which they regenerate & B - The other team can't use them. The effect lasts about a minute. You can hack as many healthpacks as you want off.

    I think this ability was passive, but she can see any character behind walls who has less than 30% of health.

    Oh and she can go completely invisible for what looked to be around 5 seconds with a major speed boost added on. If she takes for or uses abilities during that period then invisibility goes away.
    Did you see how long her ultimate (EMP) lasts?
    Originally posted by Gibson88
    Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
    It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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    • KSUowls
      All Star
      • Jul 2009
      • 5888

      #1682
      Re: Overwatch

      Originally posted by Speedy
      Did you see how long her ultimate (EMP) lasts?
      Her Ult is basically an AoE of her hack that also bypasses barriers (you do need line of sight though). It looked like the range was comparable to Lucio's break it down. So all enemies within the vicinity will be unable to use their abilities for about 5 seconds.

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      • kingkilla56
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2009
        • 19395

        #1683
        Re: Overwatch

        I'm gonna go ahead and call Sombra OP from jump street. Sounds like a nightmare to deal with.

        Also, Tracer deserves an HP buff if Sombra has 200 health.
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        • Speedy
          #Ace
          • Apr 2008
          • 16143

          #1684
          Re: Overwatch

          I'm still in the camp D.Va needs her health nerfed by 100.
          Originally posted by Gibson88
          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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          • KSUowls
            All Star
            • Jul 2009
            • 5888

            #1685
            Re: Overwatch

            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            I'm gonna go ahead and call Sombra OP from jump street. Sounds like a nightmare to deal with.

            Also, Tracer deserves an HP buff if Sombra has 200 health.
            Yeah she seems super strong. Fortunately the invisibility doesn't seem as broken as it sounds, and her ult is more of a support utility than a direct damage that the other offensive heroes have.

            I too am curious how this will affect Tracer's usage. I think she will still have more mobility overall, but Sombra does do a lot of the same things she does. I hope this doesn't render Tracer useless and instead just gives us another option for a mobile harass hero.

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            • The JareBear
              Be Good To One Another
              • Jul 2010
              • 11560

              #1686
              Re: Overwatch

              Originally posted by Speedy
              I'm still in the camp D.Va needs her health nerfed by 100.
              Has Dva become a problem since her buff awhile back?
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              • KSUowls
                All Star
                • Jul 2009
                • 5888

                #1687
                Re: Overwatch

                I still think it's kind of dumb that she isn't killed by her ult, but overall she isn't super strong. She can be very annoying, but Blizzard is actually playing around with another buff to her (increased movement while shooting on PTR right now).

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                • kingkilla56
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 19395

                  #1688
                  Re: Overwatch

                  Originally posted by KSUowls
                  Yeah she seems super strong. Fortunately the invisibility doesn't seem as broken as it sounds, and her ult is more of a support utility than a direct damage that the other offensive heroes have.



                  I too am curious how this will affect Tracer's usage. I think she will still have more mobility overall, but Sombra does do a lot of the same things she does. I hope this doesn't render Tracer useless and instead just gives us another option for a mobile harass hero.


                  I imagine she'll be nerfed if not for completely removing tracer from the game. She is a much better, way more utility Tracer. And her cool downs are ridiculously generous. Not a fan of a hero hard countering other heroes abilities as well. It's inherently anti fun for people playing against her.

                  It's one of the reasons Heartstone doesn't make cards that remove other players ability to do things (like skipping turns or forcing opponents to discard cards). It's not fun to play against at all.

                  Hopefully we're all overreacting to this hero's kit.
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                  • KSUowls
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5888

                    #1689
                    Re: Overwatch

                    Yeah my first impressions just seeing blizzcon casts is that the cooldowns are quite generous.

                    I think she is powerful but I don't really know that it will be op. There are plenty of characters in various mmo games who can shut down an opponents abilities and I don't think that kills the fun in this games. Plus her hacks have a 3 second cast time which is interrupted on hit (her ultimate is instant though).

                    I am a little concerned for Tracer, but I still think she will hold her place as a great pick. Her ultimate does more for quick damage and it synergies better with other ults like Zarya as an offensive pick. Whereas sombras ultimately will be more used to synergize for someone else to do damage .she also still hold an overall moving advantage over Sombra.

                    I'm excited to finally get heroes who have crossover abilities like her and Tracer. The more we have like that the more variation in team comp we will see. Imagine if we had another character with aoe heal. Suddenly you would Have to have a Lucio on your team.

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                    • The_Wise_One
                      Why Not Us?
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 2633

                      #1690
                      Re: Overwatch

                      I don't think Sombra sounds too powerful. She might be a pain like Mei and Tracer but nothing that can't be countered. Winston will destroy her as his tesla cannon hits her while she's invisible. She's also pretty fragile and needs to be pretty close to the enemy to use her hack and EMP.

                      I think every hero sounds "OP" in theory. Let's take Reaper for example. 250 health. Dual wielding shotguns. Can become invulnerable and move to healers or health packs. Can teleport almost anywhere and has a spinning whirlpool of death ultimate. On top of that he gains health from each fallen enemy. Sounds pretty powerful to me.
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                      • KSUowls
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5888

                        #1691
                        Re: Overwatch

                        Yeah one thing I'm actually kind of excited about is that she may bring make other tanks like Winston more viable. Not that Winston isn't good, but in most situations you would rather have a Reinhardt. Now that we have a mobile character who can knock down Rein's shield in 2 different ways it should open things up.

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                        • KSUowls
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5888

                          #1692
                          Re: Overwatch

                          Haven't had a chance to jump on PTR yet, but watched a pretty in depth review of Sombra from someone who was at Blizzcon and makes regular Overwatch videos. His summary of her characters was that she was actually a bit underpowered, though could be OP in certain situations.

                          Even though her effective range is a little more than Tracers, she does not have near the burst damage. That combined with her lack of obility in a 1v1 fight really drops her usefulness.

                          There is almost no reason to ever hack a player since: doing so alerts them to you and you don't have the 1v1 kit to survive if you're switching to your gun while they are shooting. If you could sneak up on an enemy Reinh from above or something then it's useful, but overall not so much. Hacking healthpacks though borders on completely OP because it lasts for a full minute, a very long time in a single round, with easy refresh.

                          Her ult can be good in a coordinated team fight, but only if your team follows up properly.

                          Overall she's a good character who could bring some new strategies to the meta, but she isn't really OP

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                          • The JareBear
                            Be Good To One Another
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 11560

                            #1693
                            Re: Overwatch

                            Sounds like a free play weekend is coming up soon?
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                            • WDOgF0reL1fe
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 3427

                              #1694
                              Re: Overwatch

                              This will be on sale various place ok Black Friday so I will probably pick it up finally


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                              • TheWarmWind
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 2620

                                #1695
                                Re: Overwatch

                                Yeah I've played Sombra extensively on the PTR and she is very well balanced. She's in kind of an odd place, they put her in offence but she's kind of an offence/support hybrid. She is by far the weakest DPS in the category but she can have a ton of utility, similar to Mei in spirit, though not in function.

                                For example, I was playing mystery heroes and got her while defending second point on volskyia. Most of the value I provided the team was denying the right and left healthpacks that most attacking teams rely on. She's the loser of any 1v1 fight unless she has a hacked healthpack nearby, but her passive can help on cleanup on escaping or hiding enemies. I played her successfully for quite a long time until I started getting cocky and over aggressive, forcing confrontations even without an advantage. If you want to be an annoying little elimination machine, pick Tracer. Tracer's abilities have more offensive potential and she does 50% more DPS.

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