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  • Smooth Pancakes
    MVP
    • Jul 2010
    • 1641

    #256
    Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

    Originally posted by 23
    There is no benefit of the doubt with EA.

    If they're screwing customers its usually by design to line their pockets, not by mistake.

    Sean Murray is a liar and far from a community favorite.

    There is no reason to align oneself with a corporation that's trying to finesse you as a customer.

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    And if that ends up being the case, then they'll deserve all the **** the internet heaps upon them at that point.

    Ultimately for me, I'm not that concerned with it all. I couldn't care less about micro-transactions because I don't spend money on them. I grind my way like always, I'm used to grinding since JRPGs like Final Fantasy and others were what my introduction to gaming as a kid was, so I've been grinding in games for decades now.

    I'm having an absolute blast playing this game, and am still able to more than hold my own in multi-player against others with maxed out star cards. I generally stay an even K/D and am fairly often a positive K/D and usually finish no worse than middle of the table on my team, with multiple top 3 team finishes. So even with the evil micro-transactions and my refusing to take part in them, I am still holding my own and having fun. This game is a lot more fun that I remember the 2015 Battlefront being.

    In the end, people may as well accept micro-transactions and loot boxes or plan on skipping more and more future games. It's far too late to reverse the trend. The genie is already out of the bottle, multiple game companies have already seen record profits and their shareholders would have their heads if they undid those profits. Just like with DLC and season passes, despite all the outrage when those first started becoming popular among game companies, this genie will never go back in the bottle.

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    • PVarck31
      Moderator
      • Jan 2003
      • 16869

      #257
      Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

      So with the deluxe version you don't get all the DLC right?

      I'm just trying to decide if it's worth the extra $20 for me. I feel like the weapon upgrades would help me because I'm not all that great at these games, but are these weapon upgrades worth $20? Would I be able to get them through gameplay in a reasonable amount of time?

      Thanks, guys.

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      • jwilphl
        Legal Advisor
        • Jun 2009
        • 1499

        #258
        Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

        Originally posted by KSUowls
        AMA appears to be over.

        I honestly don't think it was a good move for them to come into the AMA the way they did. They wanted to repair relations with the community, but they really didn't provide anything except more fodder.

        Almost every question was answered with "we're looking into it", "we can't give specifics", "we don't have a timeline for that yet", and the few actual/indirect answers they gave bring out more negative questions.

        The one post I found about 2% promising for this game was the goodbye from Dennis. I'll quote the full post below, but the tldr is "we will fix this".

        It remains to be seen
        It shouldn't be all that surprising as to how the AMA went. These weren't EA higher-up executives discussing why the game is monetized the way it is (which everyone already knows the answer to: profit). Other than NDAs that prevent certain discussions, these guys probably didn't have real answers to provide because a lot of the adjustments require EA's okay per the contract. DICE is left to make the game EA wants, not the game the customers or even DICE wants.

        They also would never openly say, "yes, the system is purposefully designed to get you to spend money." They'd be digging their own grave admitting to that, but I also don't think it's necessary when we can ascertain the truth on our own. Buying crates isn't an exploit in the technical sense because the game is designed to get you to buy them. Limiting offline credit earning is just another way to push that on users, or at least make it more enticing.

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        • pietasterp
          All Star
          • Feb 2004
          • 6244

          #259
          Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

          Originally posted by Smooth Pancakes
          In the end, people may as well accept micro-transactions and loot boxes or plan on skipping more and more future games. It's far too late to reverse the trend. The genie is already out of the bottle, multiple game companies have already seen record profits and their shareholders would have their heads if they undid those profits. Just like with DLC and season passes, despite all the outrage when those first started becoming popular among game companies, this genie will never go back in the bottle.
          That's the spirit!

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          • TheDutchDad
            MVP
            • Apr 2004
            • 2814

            #260
            Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

            Well, despite a cluster **** of a system they set up here and pissed off the community, I'm finding the game quite fun!

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            • dickey1331
              Everyday is Faceurary!
              • Sep 2009
              • 14285

              #261
              Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

              Originally posted by PVarck31
              So with the deluxe version you don't get all the DLC right?



              I'm just trying to decide if it's worth the extra $20 for me. I feel like the weapon upgrades would help me because I'm not all that great at these games, but are these weapon upgrades worth $20? Would I be able to get them through gameplay in a reasonable amount of time?



              Thanks, guys.


              I thought all of the DLC was free?


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              • PVarck31
                Moderator
                • Jan 2003
                • 16869

                #262
                Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                Originally posted by dickey1331
                I thought all of the DLC was free?


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                Oh it is?? Well then crap, I'm just gonna wait till Friday and get the regular version.

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                • Smooth Pancakes
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 1641

                  #263
                  Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                  Originally posted by pietasterp
                  That's the spirit!
                  I'm just saying! That's my view on it, despite all the outrage, I don't see these things ending. Now, can companies go too far? Yes, and the online community has taken the view that EA has indeed crossed the line of too far with Battlefront II. I don't see this outrage making companies drop micro-transactions or loot boxes for future games, they may just be more aware of how they implement it and how far they're willing to go with them, now that it appears there has been a defined line in the sand for when fans and consumers say too far is too far for them.

                  For instance, I'm interested in what happens with micro-transactions in Anthem. Does Bioware and EA learn from the online outrage over Battlefront II and dial back the amount of micro-transactions or what they affect in Anthem, or do they keep micro-transactions at the same level as we have now in BFII?
                  Originally posted by TheDutchDad
                  Well, despite a cluster **** of a system they set up here and pissed off the community, I'm finding the game quite fun!
                  Agreed, the whole micro-transactions and loot boxes have been a massive cluster ****, not only in the way EA implemented them, but then the way they handled the criticism, it was a pure nuclear PR meltdown.

                  But when you get down to the base game, yeah, this game is damn fun! It is easily an improvement over the first game, it's a shame such a great game is going to be completely over shadowed with the micro-transactions and loot boxes.
                  Originally posted by dickey1331
                  I thought all of the DLC was free?


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                  Originally posted by PVarck31
                  Oh it is?? Well then crap, I'm just gonna wait till Friday and get the regular version.
                  Yeah, all DLC is free. They wanted to keep DLC free to avoid fracturing the community, as is what happened in the first game.

                  As each new DLC came out, those who didn't have the DLC were left with smaller and smaller numbers of players to fill up lobbies and play matches on the base maps, while larger and larger portions of the communities migrated to the DLC maps and modes.

                  So now this game, all DLC is entirely free and the community will stay 100% together, so lobby and game numbers should stay high and make it easier to get into games.

                  Unfortunately, to get free DLC, the trade off was the addition of loot boxes and more invasive micro-transactions.

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                  Last edited by Smooth Pancakes; 11-15-2017, 09:20 PM.

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                  • PVarck31
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16869

                    #264
                    Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                    I assume I can download the standard edition at midnight tomorrow, right?

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                    • Boltman
                      L.A. to S.D. to HI
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 18283

                      #265
                      Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                      Yes you can

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                      • CubFan23
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 3985

                        #266
                        Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                        Originally posted by PVarck31
                        So with the deluxe version you don't get all the DLC right?

                        I'm just trying to decide if it's worth the extra $20 for me. I feel like the weapon upgrades would help me because I'm not all that great at these games, but are these weapon upgrades worth $20? Would I be able to get them through gameplay in a reasonable amount of time?

                        Thanks, guys.
                        The deluxe gets you a couple skins, 1 for Rey and 1 for Kylo Ren. You also get trooper weapons and upgrades
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                        • boomhauertjs
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 5373

                          #267
                          Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                          Originally posted by PVarck31
                          I assume I can download the standard edition at midnight tomorrow, right?


                          You can pre-order now and preload it so you’re ready to go at midnight.


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                          • CubFan23
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 3985

                            #268
                            Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                            I couldn't resist getting this game as I am a huge Star Wars fan,. I was totally against the loot crate crap and cancelled my pre-order. But the fan in me really just wanted to play so I snagged the Deluxe from Best Buy for just under $30 with GCU and the rewards. Couldn't pass that up.

                            After about 4 hours of play, Campaign and multiplayer, I have around 17k+ credits. Not spending any till I can unlock all heroes at once.
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                            • jbd345
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 2437

                              #269
                              Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                              Originally posted by Smooth Pancakes
                              I'm just saying! That's my view on it, despite all the outrage, I don't see these things ending. Now, can companies go too far? Yes, and the online community has taken the view that EA has indeed crossed the line of too far with Battlefront II. I don't see this outrage making companies drop micro-transactions or loot boxes for future games, they may just be more aware of how they implement it and how far they're willing to go with them, now that it appears there has been a defined line in the sand for when fans and consumers say too far is too far for them.

                              For instance, I'm interested in what happens with micro-transactions in Anthem. Does Bioware and EA learn from the online outrage over Battlefront II and dial back the amount of micro-transactions or what they affect in Anthem, or do they keep micro-transactions at the same level as we have now in BFII?
                              Agreed, the whole micro-transactions and loot boxes have been a massive cluster ****, not only in the way EA implemented them, but then the way they handled the criticism, it was a pure nuclear PR meltdown.

                              But when you get down to the base game, yeah, this game is damn fun! It is easily an improvement over the first game, it's a shame such a great game is going to be completely over shadowed with the micro-transactions and loot boxes.Yeah, all DLC is free. They wanted to keep DLC free to avoid fracturing the community, as is what happened in the first game.

                              As each new DLC came out, those who didn't have the DLC were left with smaller and smaller numbers of players to fill up lobbies and play matches on the base maps, while larger and larger portions of the communities migrated to the DLC maps and modes.

                              So now this game, all DLC is entirely free and the community will stay 100% together, so lobby and game numbers should stay high and make it easier to get into games.

                              Unfortunately, to get free DLC, the trade off was the addition of loot boxes and more invasive micro-transactions.

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                              Which is why I don’t get the outcry? What did you all expect to happen? They had to replace the potential lost dlc sales with something. I’ll admit it would be better if there were less “pay to win” aspects of it, but the overall concept isn’t as shocking to me.

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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 52789

                                #270
                                Re: Star Wars Battlefront 2 (PS4, Xbox One & PC)

                                Originally posted by Scott
                                Im enjoying the game so far...


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                                I'm not an online gamer, so are you playing the single player campaign?

                                Is it enjoyable?
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