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  • Heelfan71
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    • Jul 2002
    • 19940

    #46
    Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

    Originally posted by asianflow
    I always find it amusing when I read/hear about how people that don't smoke cigs will sometimes smoke if they're around a group of other people that do. Why would they do it? Do they want to fit in better?

    I tried cigs when I was in elementary school and that was the last time I had one. I do enjoy smoking cigars though.

    I have several people that are close to me that have tried to quit numerous times but can't do it. When I ask them why, the answer is always "I just couldn't do it". Personally I think people that try to quit and can't are a little bit weak minded.

    There was talk here about banning smoking on outdoor restaurant patios and the smokers were furious about it. They say they should be able to have a cancer stick where ever they want.

    I have a general rule of not allowing people to smoke inside my car.
    Dont you work with people with drug addictions? are they weak minded too ??? Quitting smoking is just like any other drug addiction. Actually read it's harder to quit than most illegal drugs.
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    • dieselboy
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      • Dec 2002
      • 18040

      #47
      Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

      Originally posted by Graphik
      I would'nt say that a person who tries to stop is weak minded. Its an additiction like everything else. People act as if smoking is the be all, end all single product that ruins your life. I can think of just as many things that can cause bad health or even death. Smoking as well as drinking are just an unnesacry evil if you ask me and thats the reason why many devote time and money to rid of it.

      Most non-smokers act like their a special breed because they choose not to smoke and its real annoying when a person says that they dont "like" ppl who do. How judgemental is that? Just because I smoke, that makes me a bad person? It makes me a weak person? I dont get it. There are enough things in life that can kill you so why hate me? Hate guns or better yet, hate the ppl that make guns. So please, would the non-smokers please get off their high horse, step off the soap box and eat a bowl of bacon grease.

      That is all.
      Couldn't agree more. I'm a non-smoker and I can't stand that crap.

      Originally posted by asianflow
      I always find it amusing when I read/hear about how people that don't smoke cigs will sometimes smoke if they're around a group of other people that do. Why would they do it? Do they want to fit in better?
      To get a break at work. For a buzz. "Its something to do." Studies have shown that when people smoke they socialize better. Or how about just the simple fact that smoking can be enjoyable?

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      • Brandwin
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 30621

        #48
        Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

        Originally posted by dieselboy
        I don't smoke and I think its BS. For example, here at WSU, when its winter, and its freezing, and there is snow and wind, and a smoker has to stand the the freezing weather to get a smoke? or if its pooring down rain, they an't even stand directly next to the building to be covered. Thats lame.

        Nope...others should not have to suffer because of ones bad habits. Just like you say they should have to stand in the rain etc...I should have to stay indoors or not enjoying being outside because I have to smell their smoke? it was their choice to smoke, not my choice to smell..if its banned, too bad for them...shouldnt of picked up the habit.

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        • dieselboy
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          • Dec 2002
          • 18040

          #49
          Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

          Originally posted by DookieMowf
          Nope...others should not have to suffer because of ones bad habits. Just like you say they should have to stand in the rain etc...I should have to stay indoors or not enjoying being outside because I have to smell their smoke? it was their choice to smoke, not my choice to smell..if its banned, too bad for them...shouldnt of picked up the habit.
          Couldn't disagree more.

          I'm not saying people should be allowed to smoke everywhere, as it is annoying to most non-smokers to smell smoke, but when you are outside, please. You have to stay indoors because you have to smell their smoke? How long are you standing around the smoker? Or how much smoke do you smell/inhale when walking past?

          I mean, sure it could potentially be a little annoying, but what about sitting next to someone, (whether on a bus, in a public place, or in a class, etc) and they stink of BO? Is there a law for that? Or what if someone has their music too loud on their portable music player?

          I just don't see how a little bit of smoke can really be that annoying.

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          • NYJets
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 18637

            #50
            Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

            Originally posted by dieselboy
            I mean, sure it could potentially be a little annoying, but what about sitting next to someone, (whether on a bus, in a public place, or in a class, etc) and they stink of BO? Is there a law for that? Or what if someone has their music too loud on their portable music player?
            Neither of those examples are bad for you, just annoying. Second hand smoke is bad for you.
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            • dieselboy
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              • Dec 2002
              • 18040

              #51
              Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

              Originally posted by NYJets
              Neither of those examples are bad for you, just annoying. Second hand smoke is bad for you.
              I understand that, and as I said, I'm not saying that smokers should be able to smoke everywhere they want. But if they are smoking outside, how much second hand smoke are you going to get from passing by?

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              • VanCitySportsGuy
                NYG_Meth
                • Feb 2003
                • 9351

                #52
                Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                Originally posted by Heelfan71
                Dont you work with people with drug addictions? are they weak minded too ??? Quitting smoking is just like any other drug addiction. Actually read it's harder to quit than most illegal drugs.
                I've recently changed my opinion on this issue.

                This may sound cold but if somebody has a coke problem and cant quit, than I would say they're a little bit weak minded.

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                • VanCitySportsGuy
                  NYG_Meth
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 9351

                  #53
                  Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                  Originally posted by dieselboy
                  To get a break at work. For a buzz. "Its something to do." Studies have shown that when people smoke they socialize better. Or how about just the simple fact that smoking can be enjoyable?
                  Huh?

                  Care to post an academic study that states this?

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                  • VanCitySportsGuy
                    NYG_Meth
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 9351

                    #54
                    Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                    Originally posted by Graphik
                    I would'nt say that a person who tries to stop is weak minded. Its an additiction like everything else. People act as if smoking is the be all, end all single product that ruins your life. I can think of just as many things that can cause bad health or even death. Smoking as well as drinking are just an unnesacry evil if you ask me and thats the reason why many devote time and money to rid of it.

                    Most non-smokers act like their a special breed because they choose not to smoke and its real annoying when a person says that they dont "like" ppl who do. How judgemental is that? Just because I smoke, that makes me a bad person? It makes me a weak person? I dont get it. There are enough things in life that can kill you so why hate me? Hate guns or better yet, hate the ppl that make guns. So please, would the non-smokers please get off their high horse, step off the soap box and eat a bowl of bacon grease.

                    That is all.
                    I hear this argumentr/rant all the time from smokers.

                    I agree that smoking isn't the only thing that is bad for you. But smoking can also give other people 2nd hand smoke. The same can't be said, for example, for people who like to drink a lot.

                    People can choose to smoke if they want but I believe on the issue of smoking inside restaurants/bars, the rights of non-smokers overrides the rights of smokers who want to light up inside.

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                    • dieselboy
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                      • Dec 2002
                      • 18040

                      #55
                      Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                      Originally posted by asianflow
                      Huh?

                      Care to post an academic study that states this?
                      Don't know if I could dig it up anywhere, I'm too busy with school as it is.

                      Not that it the physical act of smoking a cig makes person A better at socializing than person B, but it does make it easier for someone to socialize while smoking with someone else that smokes versus otherwise.

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                      • TheMatrix31
                        RF
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52904

                        #56
                        Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                        Smoking cigarettes is absolutely disgusting, and I don't think I'll ever even try it.

                        In Calabasas (just west of the San Fernando Valley), they just banned all forms of public smoking, whether indoors or outdoors. Best decision they've ever made and I hope everywhere else adopts this law. I shouldn't have to inhale their crap and cause that much damage to my lungs. Not to mention it smells like crap and is quite possibly the biggest thing a female can do to turn me off.

                        I do smoke nergileh (or "hookah", for you non Middle-Easterners) sometimes. No nicotine or other addictive elements with it, and it's mainly a social thing. Flavored tobacco, so it actually tastes decent (of course, when set up right). It's a very typical thing to sit around with a bunch of friends and smoke one head for a very long time, just hanging out and having discussions.

                        That's about the extent of it though. No weed, no cigarettes, no cigars, none of that other crap.

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                        • Brandwin
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 30621

                          #57
                          Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                          Bascially...what it all comes down to, they chose to smoke and then people that didnt shouldnt have to deal with it IMO.

                          For example..I was at a little league game with my daughter the other night watching my friends nephew and this jack *** had the nerve to step about 7 feet back from the bleechers and start smoking with all these kids around. To me, its very very disrespectful. No one really said anything to him, but he got enough looks and heard enough comments where he didnt do it again the rest of the game.


                          If I want to go to a bar or somewhere were people smoke, then its my choice to put myself in that sitation...but when I was in college I couldnt step out of a door in some buildings without having to walk into the BS smokers.


                          I hope it gets banned everywhere.

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                          • Husker_OS
                            Champs
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 21459

                            #58
                            Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                            Originally posted by asianflow
                            Huh?

                            Care to post an academic study that states this?

                            Smoking loosens most people up. Makes them mellow.
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                            • jmood88
                              Sean Payton: Retribution
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 34639

                              #59
                              Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                              Originally posted by dieselboy
                              Couldn't disagree more.

                              I'm not saying people should be allowed to smoke everywhere, as it is annoying to most non-smokers to smell smoke, but when you are outside, please. You have to stay indoors because you have to smell their smoke? How long are you standing around the smoker? Or how much smoke do you smell/inhale when walking past?

                              I mean, sure it could potentially be a little annoying, but what about sitting next to someone, (whether on a bus, in a public place, or in a class, etc) and they stink of BO? Is there a law for that? Or what if someone has their music too loud on their portable music player?

                              I just don't see how a little bit of smoke can really be that annoying.

                              A "bit of smoke" can affect people's health, body odor cannot.
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                              • dieselboy
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 18040

                                #60
                                Re: How many of you smoke cigarettes?

                                Originally posted by jmood88
                                A "bit of smoke" can affect people's health, body odor cannot.
                                We breath worse things in the air, drink worse things in water, and eat worse things in daily diet....compared to walking past a cig smoker and getting a slight breath of cigarrette smoke?

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