Shooting at Virginia Tech

[Court_vision]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

Actually, it does.
No one expects murders by firearm to stop - that's foolish - you expect that they will decrease.

2004 U.N data shows Japan's murder rate at 1.4 per 100,000 people. America's, in contrast, was 9.4.

Nagasaki's mayor - one man - was killed by a local gangster; part of the organized crime world. In contrast, 32 students were murdered, essentially at random, by a pissed-off loon.

Making any such comparisons between the two cases with relation to lax weapons laws being beneficial is specious at best, and disingenuous at worst.

Finally some common sense...

[The GIGGAS]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

There is a horrible HORRIBLE thing that possibly could happen at the funerals for these Hokie brothers and sisters... I don't know if this has been brought up yet...

Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church, a vile cesspool of hate, has declared their intent to protest at the funerals.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art..._virginia.html

This is a quote from that article which is claimed to come off of the WBC official website, www.godhatesamerica.com:

WBC will preach at the funerals of the Virginia Tech students killed on campus during a shooting rampage April 16, 2007. You describe this as monumental horror, but you know nothing of horror -- yet. Your bloody tyrant Bush says he is 'horrified' by it all. You know nothing of horror -- yet. Your true horror is coming. "They shall also gird themselves with sackloth, and horror shall cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their heads" (Eze. 7:18).

Why did this happen, you ask? It's simple. Your military chose to shoot at the servants of God today, and all they got for their effort was terror. Then, the LORD your God sent a crazed madman to shoot at your children. Was God asleep while this took place? Was He on vacation? Of course not. He willed this to happen to punish you for assailing His servants.

I'm sorry to have to post this for you...

This man... this "church" is so full of hate, intolerance... it doesn't stand for what Christians believe. Sure, I am not officially a Christian, but that doesn't matter right now. To think God "sent a crazed madman to shoot at ... children"?

How insane do you have to be to even think about this... let alone broadcast it over the internet...

These are the same people that have protested Matthew Shepard's funeral, the Columbine convocation, etc.

[Court_vision]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

Watched the vids - that kid def went off the deep end. Totally wacked upstairs.

That kid was all over the shop...

References to Jesus...hating on rich kids...you made me do it...

The scary thing about him is that the first deaths were TWO HOURS beforehand. It takes a very, very high level of pyschopatholigcal behaviour to maintain that rage for TWO HOURS.

Most people lose it for a short time...then think "what the hell have I done"

He killed the first two...sat back and made his videos...no remorse...and went out there and killed 30 more...

Insane stuff.

[The GIGGAS]

Re: Shooting at Virgina Tech

ENOUGH! I'm sick of you! Can you not focus on the unspeakable tragedy?

These are people! THESE PEOPLE DIED!

THESE WERE PEOPLE! Can... the policy talk just go away? Just for at least a week? I don't care about Japan, or anywhere else! Virginia Tech and the Commonwealth of Virginia has just had a tragedy happen. LET IT GO FOR RIGHT NOW!

[RubenDouglas]

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Don't know if this was posted yet:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=3052278

Wow. Cho was ruled mentally ill by a court and potentially dangerous to himself and others and then let go.

interesting.. why arent gun sellers held liable? are there no restrictions to selling to mentally ill? the owner said that he looked like a clean cut college kid.

the government needs to get involved with the medical field and create some new laws

[MizzouBravesFan]

Re: Shooting at Virgina Tech

Great, just great. I was glad that there wasn't any security footage to exploit (unlike Columbine) but now we get this...and of course, the new outlets are all over it like a feeding frenzy. Just leave it off the air FFS...why show that BS? Just for money and ratings? What a joke. What about the victims, the families, and all those who are trying to cope with the tragedy? Talk about a slap in the face.

Oh and now that he referenced Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the get to dig ALL of that up and bring back to the forefront....yet again.

It just sickens me that NBC or any other major media outlet couldn't resist giving that maniac exactly what he wanted.

Nicely done.

[MizzouBravesFan]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

There is a horrible HORRIBLE thing that possibly could happen at the funerals for these Hokie brothers and sisters... I don't know if this has been brought up yet...

Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church, a vile cesspool of hate, has declared their intent to protest at the funerals.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art..._virginia.html

This is a quote from that article which is claimed to come off of the WBC official website, www.godhatesamerica.com:



I'm sorry to have to post this for you...

This man... this "church" is so full of hate, intolerance... it doesn't stand for what Christians believe. Sure, I am not officially a Christian, but that doesn't matter right now. To think God "sent a crazed madman to shoot at ... children"?

How insane do you have to be to even think about this... let alone broadcast it over the internet...

These are the same people that have protested Matthew Shepard's funeral, the Columbine convocation, etc.

I know how you feel..I agree.

These "people" are an absolute disgrace to the human race and should be locked up and silenced for good.

[Court_vision]

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Sad to see that image, now the South Koreans (our alies) are afraid of retaliation on Korean immigrants here in the US. I pray that does not happen.


I know our relations with the Koreans is bitter and sweet, but this shooting has nothing to do with that. There are more immigrants of Korean decsent, than Chinese, and Indian combined I believe (in this country).

He came to the US at 8, right?

He was 23. That means he was an American. He'd spent most of his life there...in his videos, he has an American accent.

I don't see that South Korea has anything to aplogise for.

I used to date a Chinese girl who came to Australia when she was youung...she had an Australian accent and always got annoyed when people said "you're chinese". She'd reply "Actually, I am an Aussie. Lived here most of my life, pay my taxes here, live here, will die here. Pretty tired of being called Chinese just because of my skin"

[RubenDouglas]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

RE: they always tend to play otheres, when they should be blaming themselves or throwing themselves in teh same breath as marilyn manson or hiphop music or videogames.. Mass media "appeal" to get the ratings tends to harm us more than those others combined

[Court_vision]

Re: Shooting at Virgina Tech

ENOUGH! I'm sick of you! Can you not focus on the unspeakable tragedy?

These are people! THESE PEOPLE DIED!

THESE WERE PEOPLE! Can... the policy talk just go away? Just for at least a week? I don't care about Japan, or anywhere else! Virginia Tech and the Commonwealth of Virginia has just had a tragedy happen. LET IT GO FOR RIGHT NOW!

Champ, I am replying to people who SPECIFICALLY have replied me and made comments...

That's what a forum is about.

Yeah, these were PEOPLE...and the died because of some nut case who had easy access to guns and enough ammunition to shoot them all mutliple times...100's of rounds...

Ignoring that is INSULTING to those who've died.

You can have your opinion...and as long as everyone agrees with it, they can reply. Good one.

[Brandon13]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

I gotta agree with Court_Vision here. The gun control issue is clearly related to what happened at Virginia Tech. I think it's almost impossible not to talk about it. Plus I've seen mods and admins discussing it in here.

[The GIGGAS]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

I'm sorry about what happened in here... It was really my first release of emotion since it happened.

Sure gun control is very relevant... but can the issue be revisited in the future instead of within days?

[Court_vision]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

I'm sorry about what happened in here... It was really my first release of emotion since it happened.

Sure gun control is very relevant... but can the issue be revisited in the future instead of within days?

Not a problem bro and don't worry about letting off steam. Given how close you are to this, I'd go down to a local boxing ring if i were you and just spar for an hour...let out all the aggression.

It's horrible what happend. I am not directly effected...I don't live anywhere near where it happened...and I don't have to worry about guns much...

But it still cuts inside to see those people die like that. Just a waste.

I'll stay out of this from now. No hard feelings at all.

[The GIGGAS]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

Not a problem bro and don't worry about letting off steam. Given how close you are to this, I'd go down to a local boxing ring if i were you and just spar for an hour...let out all the aggression.

It's horrible what happend. I am not directly effected...I don't live anywhere near where it happened...and I don't have to worry about guns much...

But it still cuts inside to see those people die like that. Just a waste.

I'll stay out of this from now. No hard feelings at all.

I'm glad that you have no hard feelings... I shot some horrible words at you.

I apologize for my actions.

[sdrotar]

Re: Shooting at Virginia Tech

I'm sorry about what happened in here... It was really my first release of emotion since it happened.

Sure gun control is very relevant... but can the issue be revisited in the future instead of within days?

I live 10 minutes away from Columbine and did at the time of the shootings there. Believe me, I do understand.
The families and friends directly affected need time to mourn, of course.

But the rest of us... to honor the fallen appropriately, we need to get to work and try to make sure this doesn't happen somewhere else tomorrow.