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  • jack1535
    MVP
    • Mar 2010
    • 1789

    #15736
    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

    Originally posted by kingkilla56
    Nah they could remove fights from hockey pretty easily if they wanted. No need to gas it up like it's some impossible thing to get these professionals to not attack each other.

    Please explain how. How can they stop two players from doing what they want? Other then harsh punishments, like season long suspensions, which I said was an option there's no way.
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    • kingkilla56
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2009
      • 19395

      #15737
      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

      I'll preface this by saying if I'm the head honchos of the nhl I wouldn't do a single thing to curb the fighting. The fighting is a part of that leagues gimmick it's part of it culture.

      If they wanted to end the fighting they'd have to change the culture of their league. Your refs would have to physically stop all fights not just sit there watching the whole thing with their hands in their pockets. If a player accidentally hits a ref trying to stop a fight they're suspended, no questions asked. You ban taking off gloves while on ice, ban fights outright, eject players suspend players penalize teams etc etc etc. over time the fights would become rarer and rarer. It's not impossible to get these grown men to not punch each other. Don't pretend that it is.
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      • l3ulvl
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2009
        • 17230

        #15738
        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

        I don't hate fighting in hockey, I actually like it, but it bugs me when there are goons on the ice with no talent and have no purpose other than to take cheap shots and pick fights. It's surprising some of these guys even know how to skate. When fights break out organically, that's edge of your seat stuff for me, but some of this planned out orchestrated crap can go.

        And this is coming from a guy who loved to see Lemieux get his. So call me a hypocrite if you must, but **** that guy lol
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        • ThreeKing
          Banned
          • Aug 2007
          • 5852

          #15739
          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

          Originally posted by kingkilla56
          Nah they could remove fights from hockey pretty easily if they wanted. No need to gas it up like it's some impossible thing to get these professionals to not attack each other.

          If they got rid of fighting in hockey, that would open up pandora's box. You'd have guys constantly taking runs at top-tier players the whole game and whole year. You'd have some awful 4th liner going after a superstar player because there would be no repercussions.

          That's like inserting Nazr Mohammed for the sole intention to injure LeBron James in the ECF, so the Bulls could move on.

          Trust me, that'll never happen.

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          • Bellsprout
            Hard Times.
            • Oct 2009
            • 25652

            #15740
            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

            Or hockey players could not act like primitive *******s and not fight or intentionally try to injure like every other not baseball sport.
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            • slickdtc
              Grayscale
              • Aug 2004
              • 17125

              #15741
              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

              The whole enforcers protecting their star players is BS. There's plenty of players who aren't stars who are willing to drop the gloves when their teammate has been cheapshot.

              It's just so ingrained in the culture that will make it hard to get rid of. They are phasing out goons for the sake of goons, but it's just bringing to light the "pest", a guy who has some talent but plays on the edge occasionally going over. Just look up Brad Marchand. He's a decent hockey player, but all his cheap shots and embellishments make him a million times more unlikeable then any goon ever was.

              The NHL has a discipline problem is a main problem. It also has a lot of old school people in charge, and fighting and respect meant a little more back then (though crazy things still happened back then too).
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              And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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              • ~LiverpoolRed~
                YNWA
                • Dec 2008
                • 10755

                #15742
                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                when you are rolling a whack of coins and you are 1 short of a full roll. :

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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23428

                  #15743
                  Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                  When a person not only come to a business meeting late, but they come dressed as though they going to the store and not an actual business meeting.

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                  • NDAlum
                    ND
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 11453

                    #15744
                    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                    Originally posted by kingkilla56
                    I think fighting in hockey is one of the stupidest things going in professional sports. I just don't understand the point in it nor why we're ok with it.

                    It's in the same level as intentionally beaming batters in baseball (especially beaming rookies just for the hell of it). It's dumb.

                    However neither if these things grind my gears, mainly because I rarely watch either sport. But if they did ban fighting in hockey I think every arguement against banning it would be inherently flawed.

                    It's beaning and there is no such thing as doing it to rookies just for the heck of it

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                    • NDAlum
                      ND
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #15745
                      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                      It's not a common occurrence. If you want to make generalizations over one or a few occurrences be my guest
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                      • kingkilla56
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 19395

                        #15746
                        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                        Nothing like fans making excuses for intentionally throwing 90 mph baseballs at flesh.
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                        • Watson
                          Burrow Club
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27013

                          #15747
                          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                          When people fight in hockey, it's because it's "part of the game". When they fight in basketball or football it's because they're "thugs" and have "character issues".

                          Right. Ooooooookay.

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                          • dsallupinyaarea
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2764

                            #15748
                            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                            Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                            When a person not only come to a business meeting late, but they come dressed as though they going to the store and not an actual business meeting.
                            I work in a standard office environment and you wouldn't believe how many people complain about our business casual dress code. As if asking an adult to dress up a little bit for work is just blasphemy.
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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #15749
                              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                              Originally posted by Watson
                              When people fight in hockey, it's because it's "part of the game". When they fight in basketball or football it's because they're "thugs" and have "character issues".

                              Right. Ooooooookay.
                              Actually quite a few people who fight in hockey are referred to as thugs and that exact term has been mentioned previously in this discussion several times...
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                              • l3ulvl
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 17230

                                #15750
                                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                                Serious question, what's the difference between a goon and a thug?
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