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  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #1

    Physical Discipline........

    How do you guys feel about physical discipline as far as with kids?

    I know I got plenty of spankings when I was a kid and I honestly think im a better person b\c of it....I think more kids today could use them

    nowadays it seems like its frowned upon by "experts"

    what do yall think?
  • BigTigLSU
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    • Sep 2002
    • 6506

    #2
    Re: Physical Discipline........

    I spank my son but only as a last resort... once I have told him something once there wont be alot of repeating myself. We use timeouts and no tv or toys as well but depending on the severity or lack of response aint nothing wrong with an arse whipping.
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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #3
      Re: Physical Discipline........

      There are far more effective ways of discipline.

      I wouldn't be up in arms if someone gave their kid a soft but swift smack on the butt. I'm sure I'd catch myself doing it if I had a kid. But that goes away. Kids cry and then they forget.

      I think it's more a matter of just caring and making sure to have yourself heard when they do something wrong. Most of the parents I see that have wild kids are lazy as parents. They'll say, "Oh, I just can't get him to stop doing that." Yet they never even try.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • rudyjuly2
        Cade Cunningham
        • Aug 2002
        • 14816

        #4
        Re: Physical Discipline........

        Originally posted by BigTigLSU
        I spank my son but only as a last resort... once I have told him something once there wont be alot of repeating myself. We use timeouts and no tv or toys as well but depending on the severity or lack of response aint nothing wrong with an arse whipping.
        Same here. We use timeouts mainly but have had to give a few spankings when warranted. Its not the end of the world to give spankings but if you are handing them out all the time it sends the message that physically hurting someone else is the way to get what you want.

        People shouldn't confuse no spanking with a lack of discipline. You can still run a tight ship without spanking. Its a big misconception out there, particularly among people who don't have kids.

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        • born_bad
          MVP
          • Jan 2005
          • 1130

          #5
          Re: Physical Discipline........

          Like someone said, I can see the occasional smack or something, but if you get into a situation where you're actually involved in beating "sessions" of some kind (an amount of time where you're just repeatedly beating the hell out of your kid to make a point) that's a problem. The evidence is in that will cause more harm than good down the road for that kid.

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          • pk500
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 8062

            #6
            Re: Physical Discipline........

            Spankings on the butt as a last resort? No problem with that.

            But the spankings can't become frequent, or they'll lose their purpose and seep from effective, metered discipline to borderline abuse.

            There are times where I've raised my voice to my kids too much, and the volume doesn't penetrate at all. So I'll shock them by speaking quietly and forcefully when pissed, damn near hissing through my teeth, and that grabs their attention, big time.

            Still, there are times and places for private spankings within the confines of the home. The idea of "Let's talk with the child and understand his reasoning" is just New Age psycho-babble parenting when you're dealing with 3-, 4- and 5-year-olds. They can't reason at that age.

            I was spanked as a kid, and it did me no harm. None whatsoever.

            Still, the best way to create a culture of responsibility and discipline is to speak directly to kids with your commands and offer no options. Instead of saying, "Daddy would like for you to pick up your toys" or "Can you pick up your toys, buddy?" a simple, "Please pick up your toys now" leaves the kids no wiggle room, making your intentions very simple and very clean. That's vital to connect to the developing minds of children.

            Also, relenting on threatened punishment does no good. If you tell your kid, "If I have to ask you again to pick up those toys, you're getting a time out in your room for five minutes," and you back down, the kid never is going to listen to you. Follow through.

            Take care,
            PK
            Last edited by pk500; 11-05-2007, 10:54 AM.
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            • Brandwin
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 30621

              #7
              Re: Physical Discipline........

              I have had to spank my daughter a handful of times, usualy she is well behaved. I don't see a problem with a spanking, sometimes a kid just needs it. It's the last thing I do as well, if I tell her not to do something and she keeps testing me, she gets it and doesn't do it again. I just tell her in a firm voice not to do it and it stops, if not I spank. I don't like all that counting to 5 crap, when I say stop, she needs to stop.

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              • Brandwin
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 30621

                #8
                Re: Physical Discipline........

                Originally posted by pk500
                Spankings on the butt as a last resort? No problem with that.

                But the spankings can't become frequent, or they'll lose their purpose and seep from effective, metered discipline to borderline abuse.

                There are times where I've raised my voice to my kids too much, and the volume doesn't penetrate at all. So I'll shock them by speaking quietly and forcefully when pissed, damn near hissing through my teeth, and that grabs their attention, big time.

                Still, there are times and places for private spankings within the confines of the home. The idea of "Let's talk with the child and understand his reasoning" is just New Age psycho-babble parenting when you're dealing with 3-, 4- and 5-year-olds. They can't reason at that age.

                I was spanked as a kid, and it did me no harm. None whatsoever.

                Still, the best way to create a culture of responsibility and discipline is to speak directly to kids with your commands and offer no options. Instead of saying, "Daddy would like for you to pick up your toys" or "Can you pick up your toys, buddy?" a simple, "Please pick up your toys now" leaves the kids no wiggle room, making your intentions very simple and very clean. That's vital to connect to the developing minds of children.

                Also, relenting on threatened punishment does no good. If you tell your kid, "If I have to ask you again to pick up those toys, you're getting a time out in your room for five minutes," and you back down, the kid never is going to listen to you. Follow through.

                Take care,
                PK
                Good stuff PK. I agree. No options, if I say pick up your toys, pick them u p. No, I will in a minute or can you help me because there is a lot to pick up. I also agree if you spank all the time, it will lose it's purpose.

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #9
                  Re: Physical Discipline........

                  Also, relenting on threatened punishment does no good. If you tell your kid, "If I have to ask you again to pick up those toys, you're getting a time out in your room for five minutes," and you back down, the kid never is going to listen to you. Follow through.
                  good point, I think thats HUGE.

                  I just dont like when a kid is acting out constantly, telling thier mom "NO!" and "shut up!" and they respond with a timmy, please stop or a thats not nice.

                  Its like they fear there kid not liking them or something.....

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                  • USF11
                    C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4245

                    #10
                    Re: Physical Discipline........

                    Originally posted by The 23rd Letter
                    How do you guys feel about physical discipline as far as with kids?

                    I know I got plenty of spankings when I was a kid and I honestly think im a better person b\c of it....I think more kids today could use them

                    nowadays it seems like its frowned upon by "experts"

                    what do yall think?
                    Attack the body. Bruises show on the face, arms, and legs.
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                    • CMH
                      Making you famous
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #11
                      Re: Physical Discipline........

                      Originally posted by pk500
                      Spankings on the butt as a last resort? No problem with that.

                      But the spankings can't become frequent, or they'll lose their purpose and seep from effective, metered discipline to borderline abuse.

                      There are times where I've raised my voice to my kids too much, and the volume doesn't penetrate at all. So I'll shock them by speaking quietly and forcefully when pissed, damn near hissing through my teeth, and that grabs their attention, big time.

                      Still, there are times and places for private spankings within the confines of the home. The idea of "Let's talk with the child and understand his reasoning" is just New Age psycho-babble parenting when you're dealing with 3-, 4- and 5-year-olds. They can't reason at that age.

                      I was spanked as a kid, and it did me no harm. None whatsoever.

                      Still, the best way to create a culture of responsibility and discipline is to speak directly to kids with your commands and offer no options. Instead of saying, "Daddy would like for you to pick up your toys" or "Can you pick up your toys, buddy?" a simple, "Please pick up your toys now" leaves the kids no wiggle room, making your intentions very simple and very clean. That's vital to connect to the developing minds of children.

                      Also, relenting on threatened punishment does no good. If you tell your kid, "If I have to ask you again to pick up those toys, you're getting a time out in your room for five minutes," and you back down, the kid never is going to listen to you. Follow through.

                      Take care,
                      PK

                      Good post. Agreed 100%.

                      I can't stand parents that do the "Mommy would like for you to stop throwing a tantrum in the store, Billy," deal. I'm 25 and that crap wouldn't work for me.
                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • pk500
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 8062

                        #12
                        Re: Physical Discipline........

                        Originally posted by The 23rd Letter
                        good point, I think thats HUGE.

                        I just dont like when a kid is acting out constantly, telling thier mom "NO!" and "shut up!" and they respond with a timmy, please stop or a thats not nice.

                        Its like they fear there kid not liking them or something.....
                        Exactly. I can't tell you how many times I've told my 8-year-old daughter when she complains about her responsibilities: "Hey, I'm not your friend. I'm your father. There's a big difference."

                        Take care,
                        PK
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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #13
                          Re: Physical Discipline........

                          lol thats why I absolutely cannot watch "Sweet 16" those kids drive me up the wall

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                          • RoyalBoyle78
                            Aka."Footballforever"
                            • May 2003
                            • 23918

                            #14
                            Re: Physical Discipline........

                            Originally posted by DookieMowf
                            I have had to spank my daughter a handful of times, usualy she is well behaved. I don't see a problem with a spanking, sometimes a kid just needs it. It's the last thing I do as well, if I tell her not to do something and she keeps testing me, she gets it and doesn't do it again. I just tell her in a firm voice not to do it and it stops, if not I spank. I don't like all that counting to 5 crap, when I say stop, she needs to stop.
                            same here, my daughter is 5 and sometimes she just doesn't listen, but I very rarley have to lift my hand to her, when I say something in my firm voice my daughter always stops.
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                            • CMH
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #15
                              Re: Physical Discipline........

                              And that's better because as a kid gets older they'll brush off the potential spanking.

                              But when they hear the voice or get the look, it can do wonders no matter the age.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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