I seen about 10 things in that video that if I were to ever try on my Parents when I was his age, I'd probably still be in a Coma right now.
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 I seen about 10 things in that video that if I were to ever try on my Parents when I was his age, I'd probably still be in a Coma right now.#RespectTheCulture
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 If my child ever treated my wife like that he would die<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1pEFhzoXnuc?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1pEFhzoXnuc?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
 
 Was just thinking of you guys on OS? Good new age sit down with the little tike.
 
 This kid will be beating his mom up when he gets older
 
 Thats just flat out unacceptableComment
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 Do you have kids? Because it is so easy to say how you would do things if that was your kid. I know I did, then I had a kid and my kid is not as bad as that one, but the way he talks to his mom some times is not right. I step in once in awhile, but it is tough when kids are strong will. Mine is very hyper. I am sure I had some hand in his smart mouth, because I didn't do anything about it when he was younger. But I will just say this every kid is different. And until you have kids and have a kid that is always well behavior you just want understand. The funny thing is I can give great advice on how to raise children, but when it comes to my own I am clueless.  Comment
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 I really don't think that I'll end up spanking my son. I just don't see the need. I've always felt that way though and it has nothing to do with public perception. I've seen parents spank their kids to relieve their own anger and frustration and I just don't think that's right. Each set of parents is different though but I just don't think spanking is for me.How do you guys feel about physical discipline as far as with kids?
 
 I know I got plenty of spankings when I was a kid and I honestly think im a better person b\c of it....I think more kids today could use them
 
 nowadays it seems like its frowned upon by "experts"
 
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 I won't speak for 23 but I think he like many of us are asking one thing, "Where is this boy's father?" That young boy needs a man in his life that is a positive force of love and discipline. My father very rarely spanked us, but it was in how he treated my mother, and the fact that he instilled respect in us that told us if we ever did anything like that young boy did, there would be a very high consequence.Do you have kids? Because it is so easy to say how you would do things if that was your kid. I know I did, then I had a kid and my kid is not as bad as that one, but the way he talks to his mom some times is not right. I step in once in awhile, but it is tough when kids are strong will. Mine is very hyper. I am sure I had some hand in his smart mouth, because I didn't do anything about it when he was younger. But I will just say this every kid is different. And until you have kids and have a kid that is always well behavior you just want understand. The funny thing is I can give great advice on how to raise children, but when it comes to my own I am clueless. 
 
 I have 4 boys. They are all under 6 years old. My oldest son hasn't been spanked in a while. My next two are 4 and 3. They will get spanked when they willfully do something they know should not be done. This is a spanking on their bare butt. This is rare, but they are still at an age of learning consequence. My youngest is 1 year old. I do not spank his butt because he doesn't comprehend what is going on. What I do with him is I swat the back of his hand. He is at an age of understanding what "no" means. I will look at him and say, "Luciano, NO. NO." Right now he turns back and looks at me, knowing that if he proceeds he will get swatted on the hand. Sometimes he still proceeds, but he is turning a corner. He now knows that if mommy or daddy say no, he should listen.
 
 I have used this with all of our kids and can say that if you do it responsibly and in love, your child will learn to respect authority and also understand that he is loved. I'm not saying you can't do this without spanking, and I'd never say someone is in the wrong if they don't. I will say that I am around kids a lot. I take my kids to places other kids are and I see their moms and dads chasing them in the stores and malls, calling their name several times with no luck. I don't say this to brag or claim my way is best, and sometimes my kids don't listen (they're kids after all), but most often, when we speak they stop and listen.Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.Comment
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 The thing about hitting a child is that that's not the way they will be disciplined in the real world once they become older.
 
 If someone behaves poorly in society, there are different repercussions. Yes, sometimes you get hit, but most of the time you become outcast, left out of things you want to be involved in. You will get fired from your job, lose friends, and your overall enjoyment of life drops significantly.
 
 I think there is a time and place for physical confrontation, but only as the very last option. If your kid learns that when he acts up, the first thing that happens is that he will get hit... I think that transfers over to his responses when he's in a position of authority.
 
 I also don't have kids right now, so it's easy for me to say that. But I'm against the Momma's Gonna Beat Me mentality of discipline, although it may work in some situations. Children respond differently to certain forms of discipline and shows of authority. Some can be reasoned with and some need to see immediate repercussions, I just think those repercussions can be handled in a way where the child can understand what they did wrong, why it's wrong, who it hurts, how they can respond differently next time and why it's important to respond that way.Comment
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 I was hit as a kid. I feel I'm very respectful to people an authority figures. A friend of mines was never hit as a child. His mom let him get away with anything. His mom would call my moms an i would always hear her complain about how horrible he is etc. I would even be at their house an he would curse her out an it was embarrassing that I was even there. Hes a good friend but a horrible son. I always felt his mom should knock him the **** out one day but she would never touch him. Recently we were playing ball an he dislocated his knee cap and has had a history on knee surgeries so while he was rolling around crying I couldn't help but think this is karma getting him for being a horrific son. I believed if she would have hit him a few times he would respect her. Obviously this is one example thats in favor of my opinion but I always see the kids who don't get spanked as the ones being really crazy out an about.Comment
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 I will be the authority figure and to do wrong in my presence will bring fear into whoever did the wrong.
 
 I don't feel bad for the mom in the vid that got slapped. She allowed that kid to get that way. That's bad parenting from the get-go.SOS Madden League (PS4) | League Archives
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 That video got me really upset lol. Just thinking that there are kids like this who grow up and go out into society just rubs me the wrong way.<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/1pEFhzoXnuc?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/1pEFhzoXnuc?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
 
 Was just thinking of you guys on OS? Good new age sit down with the little tike.-Rocky Balboa"Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."Comment
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 I have a slightly different take on this one.
 
 First, I'll say that I don't agree with the kid slapping his mom or telling her to shut up. His entire attitude is unacceptable.
 
 However, I wonder if his mother is really listening to him. Look, I'm not saying that all of his words are 100% truth. Kids will stretch the truth. They will lie if it benefits them, but from what I gathered, this is a one-on-one with his mom. There is no benefit for him to express his feelings but to tell his mom how he actually feels.
 
 I'm looking past his attitude and behavior and listening to his words and then looking at how the mother reacts to all of it and I think she seriously needs help. And not help to protect herself from him, but help on learning how to raise a child.
 
 As much as it is true that a mother is a child's boss, when you tell a kid (especially one that is capable of understanding that a mother's threat is mostly verbal unless she wants to face criminal charges): "I am your boss," you are not giving your child the opportunity to respect you.
 
 That kid said it straight out: "I am in control of my body. I can do what I want when I want." And he's right. No one can tell him what to do when he doesn't want to. No one can tell anyone what to do. The only reason we don't do what society believes is unacceptable is because we know there are consequences or we acknowledge the damage it may cause another person.
 
 His mother's response is: "I am your boss." That's not effective at all. That's akin to telling someone that wants to achieve a dream that they have no chance. Think about something you're extremely passionate about and imagine someone telling you: "You won't ever achieve that goal!" It may not be your initial reaction, but eventually you're going to say: "Yes, I can and I'll prove you wrong."
 
 Now, subtract 10, 20, 30 years from your life and put yourself in that kid's position. Do you think your mother is going to get across to you with that message?
 
 When kids act out there is usually a very good reason for it. The truth is kids want structure. They desire it because they are lost and confused. But, they also want to be respected and I have a hard time believing this mother respects her son. Again, he is going about it all wrong but he's a kid and he obviously doesn't know any better. He's lost complete respect for his mother (he basically said it repeatedly and showed it by slapping her). She's lost him and before I look at the kid and say he's just a bad seed, I'm hearing this kid out. I think he has a point."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
 
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 The kid doesnt have a point
 
 He was out of line from talking to her like that period
 
 Pointing in her face, slapping her, telling her what she did, telling her he can do what he wants to do. He's the child not the parent, she's old enough to have forgotten more than he knows altogether
 
 As Dave said, where the heck is the father... thats my biggest issue with the situation
 
 That said, lots of kids dont have a perfect family structure...but they dont pull this on their parents..
 
 Nothing he said or did was acceptable
 
 When I was raised, I respected my parents, even if they werent right in my eyes. Of course there is dysfunction here...but what I see is wrong on so many levels there is no way this shouldnt strike a nerveComment
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 I agree with physical discipline if that's what a parent wants to do. With support between both parents and consistency with other methods of discipline (which simply means to teach), it shouldn't have to be a primary source of correction. That being said, some things I think are important to remember:
 
 NEVER spank while angry or out of anger. If you want to spank, go ahead, but be level-headed when you do it and be able to explain why you are doing it. Attach a meaning onto it so the child can understand better.
 
 Never use an object other than your hand.
 
 Never argue about spanking in front of your child. If you and your spouse disagree, talk about it behind closed doors where no little ears can hear. If a child sees disagreement between you, they will play you against each other in the future. It's better to support what you don't agree with at first and to come to a compromise later than to argue in front of your kids.
 
 I don't even know what to say about that video. What I will say is this - if my child (or future children if God blesses us with more) EVER even THINKS about APPROACHING the idea of talking to his mother that way, he will NEVER do it a second time.Acts 2:38. Let the truth be told.
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 John 3:20. Say no to normal.Comment
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 He was making one and we all saw it.
 
 The reaction here is to look at it only from the parents view, but why is no one seeing it from his perspective? If we're trying to hold the kid responsible for his actions then his words should also hold the same weight."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
 
 "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment

 
		
	 
		
	 
		
	 
		
	
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