Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

[ZB9]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

Again, oil companies arent "victims"...but you didnt see any subsidies for oil companies in the 90s when oil was $8 bucks a barrel and the industry was on it's ***. You didnt see any "oil aid". I guess because American farmers arent the enemies that the American energy business is.

now folks are up in arms because I guess they feel it's their God given right to have cheap gas. Despite all of the added factors going on all around the world and in this country, people in this country expect cheap gas. I guess some of us have become spoiled. Look at the way it is in the rest of the world and compare it to us.

btw, one ironic thing is that many of the same people complaining about everything involving oil companies (including drilling)...dont want to see any expanded oil exploration in this country. They want cheap gas, but they dont want any refining expansion. They want cheap energy, but they are against nuclear power. lol WTF? They want cheap energy, but they dont understand how that comes about.

Like i said, people think it's their God given right to have cheap gas and cheap energy. Many people want our country to be an environmental leader AND have the cheapest gas, but we can't have it both ways right now.

[bkrich83]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

Again, oil companies arent "victims"...but you didnt see any subsidies for oil companies in the 90s when oil was $8 bucks a barrel and the industry was on it's ***. You didnt see any "oil aid". I guess because American farmers arent the enemies that the American energy business is.

now folks are up in arms because I guess they feel it's their God given right to have cheap gas. Despite all of the factors going on, people in this country expect cheap gas. I guess some of us have become spoiled. Look at the way it is in the rest of the world and compare it to us.

btw, one ironic thing is that many of the same people complaining about everything involving oil companies (including drilling)...dont want to see any expanded oil exploration in this country. They want cheap gas, but they dont want any refining expansion. They want cheap energy, but they are against nuclear power. lol WTF? They want cheap energy, but they dont understand how that comes about.

Like i said, people think it's their God given right to have cheap gas and cheap energy. Many people want our country to be an environmental leader AND have the cheapest gas, but we can't have it both ways right now.

Says the guy who works for an oil company.

I think people are against, collusion, price fixing and price gouging, as well as the shady dealings of the oil lobby. I think people would like oil companies and their lobby to not be a hurdle for new technologies to be developed.

You're damn right Amercan Energy companies are the enemy. From shady book keeping to shady business dealings, to an overpowered lobby, to shady political dealings, to collusion, they are poster boys for big business gone wrong.

As far as the rest of the world? Europe is artificially inflated by taxes in an effort to encourage people to use public transport. In the US we simply don't have the public transit infrastructure to do that.

Don't get me started on how Texas energy companies illegally gouged California in our regional energy crisis in I believe it was 2000. That may have been spearheaded by Enron, amongst others. I believe some Texas energy/oil companies were prosecuted.

I don't think it's a coincidence oil companies are posting record years, while the rest of the country takes a beating.

[Chaos81]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

now folks are up in arms because I guess they feel it's their God given right to have cheap gas.

From a personal point of view, cheap gas at the pump that I buy is the least of my worries. Going to the grocery store and seeing ever item I buy being from $1-2 more expensive than it was a year or two ago is what hurts me.

[bkrich83]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

Like i said, people think it's their God given right to have cheap gas and cheap energy. Many people want our country to be an environmental leader AND have the cheapest gas, but we can't have it both ways right now.

We certainly could. The government and the energy companies have done everything in their power to make sure we can't have both.

[bkrich83]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

From a personal point of view, cheap gas at the pump that I buy is the least of my worries. Going to the grocery store and seeing ever item I buy being from $1-2 more expensive than it was a year or two ago is what hurts me.

As gas prices rise, it's going to get worse. Costs more to ship, and that will also be passed on to the consumer.

[ballerzinc]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

Again, oil companies arent "victims"...but you didnt see any subsidies for oil companies in the 90s when oil was $8 bucks a barrel and the industry was on it's ***. You didnt see any "oil aid". I guess because American farmers arent the enemies that the American energy business is.

now folks are up in arms because I guess they feel it's their God given right to have cheap gas. Despite all of the added factors going on all around the world and in this country, people in this country expect cheap gas. I guess some of us have become spoiled. Look at the way it is in the rest of the world and compare it to us.

btw, one ironic thing is that many of the same people complaining about everything involving oil companies (including drilling)...dont want to see any expanded oil exploration in this country. They want cheap gas, but they dont want any refining expansion. They want cheap energy, but they are against nuclear power. lol WTF? They want cheap energy, but they dont understand how that comes about.

Like i said, people think it's their God given right to have cheap gas and cheap energy. Many people want our country to be an environmental leader AND have the cheapest gas, but we can't have it both ways right now.

I don't think it's my god given right, but I do think that oil companies are extremely shady and aren't giving the best prices to consumers. I wouldn't mind drilling in more places for oil, but I also don't think oil corporations like many big corporations, are looking out for the average citizen and giving us the best price.

[countryboy]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

As gas prices rise, it's going to get worse. Costs more to ship, and that will also be passed on to the consumer.

Exactly.

[bkrich83]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

Exactly.

Plastic packaging uses oil as well, expect packaging costs to rise as well.

[ballerzinc]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

because george bush is an *******. hes the worst president ever and an overall idiot

Your gonna get this thread locked, man. But since you said it already , but I would edit your post.

[ZB9]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

SATX, why dont you edit your post unless you want this thread to get locked

[bkrich83]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

Sat, may want to edit. Politics are a no no, gonna get this thread locked.

[countryboy]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

And it may not be my God given right to have cheap gas, but I've got government officials giving me an economic stimulus check so that I can use that money to help a failing economy. Want me to help stimulate the economy? Then lower my cost of living.

Paying $4 a gallon for gas is only part of it. The rising gas prices is raising the cost of living to the point where people who are living from paycheck to paycheck can no longer make ends meet.

So where does it end? What more do people have to sacrifice?

[bkrich83]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

And it may not be my God given right to have cheap gas, but I've got government officials giving me an economic stimulus check so that I can use that money to help a failing economy. Want me to help stimulate the economy? Then lower my cost of living.

Paying $4 a gallon for gas is only part of it. The rising gas prices is raising the cost of living to the point where people who are living from paycheck to paycheck can no longer make ends meet.

So where does it end? What more do people have to sacrifice?

Exactly. Like $1200 bucks is going to send me in to an economy stimulating spending spree.

[ZB9]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

Yes, oil companies make money off oil, as most companies are in business to make money. However to assume they gather in a dark room and plot to fix prices is wrong.

Big oil companies in our country aren't a cartel, or even a monopoly. They aren't fixing prices, as all it would take is one company to step out and offer lower prices for them to be exposed. Also, with all the growing antipathy towards oil companies, it would have come out in the news or somewhere from one oil exec or employee talking and starting an investigation.

This is why I said high oil prices also hurt the oil companies. People are growing hatred for the prices, and they bear all the anger. People think oil companies drive up to a guy's garage and buy up his invention for cars to run on mere thoughts. They aren't fixing prices, the prices are mostly set by global demand and OPEC supply. In addition, the US dollar is decreased in value, and the US government throws on a tax that only makes the prices higher.

People won't change their fuel habits, because we as Americans in general can afford to pay even $5 a gallon. W'd just have to pull back on other spending. People that can't afford to pay gas prices will make individual changes as it affects them. Let the market settle it.

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[ZB9]

Re: Can anyone explain to me why gas is still rising?

And it may not be my God given right to have cheap gas, but I've got government officials giving me an economic stimulus check so that I can use that money to help a failing economy. Want me to help stimulate the economy? Then lower my cost of living.

Paying $4 a gallon for gas is only part of it. The rising gas prices is raising the cost of living to the point where people who are living from paycheck to paycheck can no longer make ends meet.

So where does it end? What more do people have to sacrifice?

I dont understand your post at all. This is not Mexico, Venezuala, or Russia. The oil companies arent part of the govt.

In fact, since '06 the govt. has been screwing up domestic oil companies ability to expand exploration and production.