GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

[dickey1331]

And until America does catch up, if you don't want to tip...don't come out to eat and waste our time as servers. Get takeout or cook yourself, please.

I always tip 20% or $5 whatever is greater. I just don't enjoy it.

[Beantown]

I always tip 20% or $5 whatever is greater. I just don't enjoy it.

I wasn't necessarily talking about you specifically, just using your (valid) point as a jumping off point.

[DonkeyJote]

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And until America does catch up, if you don't want to tip...don't come out to eat and waste our time as servers. Get takeout or cook yourself, please.

The by that logic, you shouldn't come to my store and waste my time unless you're going to tip me. You could make that argument for any low-earning customer service, but servers and coffee baristas are the only ones that make significant tips.

[slickdtc]

Do you work for minimum wage?

They don't either....

That's the best way of putting it.

If servers were happy with just minimum wage, you'd be getting crappy service. It would be, "What ya want?" instead of all the friendly banter and extra stuff. And they wouldn't take all the extra BS from people. My girl told me a story from the other day that just made no sense. People take advantage of restaurants because they know they can get over on them. Although these people only got their drinks comped, they should have gotten nothing. The one lady claimed to have been a waitress and could serve 25 tables at the same time. Yeah so could I, but there would be an hour between drink refills.

Every job that deals with customers goes through BS with oftentimes ignorant customers, but it is nothing like serving.

Servers deserve every penny they receive. I've worked at multiple restaurants, retail, office setting and nothing touches serving. It's a miserable job, and the only upside to it is the money.

[Beantown]

The by that logic, you shouldn't come to my store and waste my time unless you're going to tip me. You could make that argument for any low-earning customer service, but servers and coffee baristas are the only ones that make significant tips.

I assume you see a paycheck at your store, or your job. I assume you make more than 2.63 an hour. I assume your entire livelihood doesn't depend on people having the decency to understand that tipping is the only way I see money. And on and on. Until I'm making minimum wage no matter how good or ****ty people are, there is no way to compare the two at all.

Yes, we can get another job, but there are plenty of people out there who actually appreciate the fact that leaving a nice tip makes a servers night and they make it worth it. Servers, or at least at every restaurant I've ever worked at, are not "low-earning customer service" workers. The only income we have is tips, and most of the time we end up owing a significantly larger amount come tax time because we make no hourly money.

[DonkeyJote]

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That's the best way of putting it.

If servers were happy with just minimum wage, you'd be getting crappy service. It would be, "What ya want?" instead of all the friendly banter and extra stuff. And they wouldn't take all the extra BS from people. My girl told me a story from the other day that just made no sense. People take advantage of restaurants because they know they can get over on them. Although these people only got their drinks comped, they should have gotten nothing. The one lady claimed to have been a waitress and could serve 25 tables at the same time. Yeah so could I, but there would be an hour between drink refills.

Every job that deals with customers goes through BS with oftentimes ignorant customers, but it is nothing like serving.

Servers deserve every penny they receive. I've worked at multiple restaurants, retail, office setting and nothing touches serving. It's a miserable job, and the only upside to it is the money.

I'm going back to fast food. They put up with every single ounce of BS a server has to deal with. Customers try and take advantage of the system. They yell and berate at you. And you are expected to give a high level of customer service without the extra incentive of tips (granted it doesn't always happen, since customers are often not all that receptive to banter and just want their food quickly). In addition to that, a fast food worker has to assemble your order, often still brings it to you, sometimes has to cook it themselves, as well as having to do all the dirty work. Of all the jobs I've worked, fast food is by far to most strenuous, difficult, tiring, and stressful, and I've had to put up with more rude customers and people straight up yelling at you than every other job combined. It is also a miserable job, and money isn't the upside, because when I left, I made a dollar over minimum as the manager.

Now if I go somewhere, and the server is very friendly, gets us our refills, our food is hot, we get everything in a timely manner, etc., I'm tipping. Normally between 15-20%. But I'm not going to tip if the service is anything less than very good. And that happens. The other night, I went to a diner with some friends at about 1:45 in the morning after the bars were closing. Now my standard is much lower at this place than in general, because it will be packed after last call. But even still, my burger didn't have any fries, my buddy's fries were cold, she didn't bring the dipping sauce we had requested, and it took nearly 45 minutes from the time we placed our order til we got our food. The dishwasher was out bussing tables, and actually went and replaced my friend's fries, got my fries, and our dipping sauce, and brought us silverware. So he got a tip, and she got about $2 from all of us combined.

[cubsfan203]

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I've never understood this either. I just do it because it's custom. Can one of the servers here explain?

Servers usually have to tip-out based on their total sales. Where I worked a % went to the server assistants based on total sales, and a % of beverage sales went to the bartenders. So that much larger tab makes you tip out a lot more, and there are times where I had really ****ty tippers that I actually PAID to wait on them because the tip out was more than the tip I received.

[702]

We automatically tip out our bartenders and hosts/bussers based on total sales, so higher bill = higher amount of the tip from that table going to other people.

Yeah, that's the difference. Nothing like that anywhere I've worked here. Its the servers decision completely. I really don't like that, seems like its all forced. I obviously believe in tipping, but to force it upon people automatically is kind of uncool, both on the customers side (though I realize they're not doing that in this specific situation) and on your side to the bussers etc (which is even worse). Different environments I suppose.

[raiderphantom]

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I tip really well unless the service was really awful. I know how tough it is grinding at some of these low paying jobs where people live off of tips. I'm not going to usually miss a couple extra dollars besides now that I'm unemployed. I know someone who works as a delivery driver. Some people don't tip him a penny. If that was me, I'm taking your food back and you can come pick it up!

[DonkeyJote]

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I tip really well unless the service was really awful. I know how tough it is grinding at some of these low paying jobs where people live off of tips. I'm not going to usually miss a couple extra dollars besides now that I'm unemployed. I know someone who works as a delivery driver. Some people don't tip him a penny. If that was me, I'm taking your food back and you can come pick it up!

On the very rare occasion I order Pizza, I rarely tip drivers unless my food gets there just crazy fast. I'm already paying a delivery charge, which is already an extra 30%. I'm not made of money.

That said, I very rarely get pizza delivered. I either pick it up, or get it from the grocery store.

[raiderphantom]

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On the very rare occasion I order Pizza, I rarely tip drivers unless my food gets there just crazy fast. I'm already paying a delivery charge, which is already an extra 30%. I'm not made of money.

That said, I very rarely get pizza delivered. I either pick it up, or get it from the grocery store.

Except some places don't even give the driver most of that. At least some of the places I'm familiar with. And it's not 30%(At least no place i know of)Other places I order from there is no delivery charge.

I understand the principle of not tipping but the way some of these jobs are set up people rely on those tips. You could argue: well get a better job! I understand that, but I've just accepted the way these industries work and I choose to support them even though it should be the employer raising their pay. I'm frugal with my money too. I'm not just like meh whatever here's 20 extra bucks means nothing to me lol.

But a few extra bucks isn't changing my lifestyle or anything. So I attribute most people who don't tip to just being stingy and/or cheap. I don't believe most people are having a fundamental debate on whether they should tip or not, most people just aren't forced to so they choose not to. Survival of the fittest I guess.

[Redacted01]

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Yea, the only way it could be 30% is if you are ordering like $8-$10 of food... in which case, why are they even delivering to you haha. I guess the min is around that these days for most places.

And they even say it isn't for the driver (at least not all of it). If you are ordering only $10 of food (because I've never heard of the delivery fee being a rate, just a flat fee) and you can't afford to shell out $2 to the driver (20%, fair tip), you shouldn't be ordering period.

[NDAlum]

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I go out to eat for the quality food, not to have quality service. I would have no problem going to the window and picking up the food myself. I don't want the server to interact with me. I feel like I already pay a premium to not prep, cook, and clean. I'm fine with that.

I was a server for a month in between jobs and my girlfriend has done it for several years. I still tip well because we both worked in the industry. When I was a server I really didn't feel like I did anything special.

[Antec]

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I'm going back to fast food. They put up with every single ounce of BS a server has to deal with. Customers try and take advantage of the system. They yell and berate at you. And you are expected to give a high level of customer service without the extra incentive of tips (granted it doesn't always happen, since customers are often not all that receptive to banter and just want their food quickly). In addition to that, a fast food worker has to assemble your order, often still brings it to you, sometimes has to cook it themselves, as well as having to do all the dirty work. Of all the jobs I've worked, fast food is by far to most strenuous, difficult, tiring, and stressful, and I've had to put up with more rude customers and people straight up yelling at you than every other job combined. It is also a miserable job, and money isn't the upside, because when I left, I made a dollar over minimum as the manager.

When I was in high school most teachers go to line was "don't worry about doing the work, you can end up working at McDonalds". There is a reason working fast food is easy to qualify for - because it sucks.

[NDAlum]

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I will say Chik-Fil-A has customer service that is WAY ABOVE fast food quality. I have never had a bad experience when eating there. I've had better service there then at some restaurants.