GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

[LowerWolf]

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For those of you with dogs, do you tip your groomer?

I used to use the same groomer. I didn't tip her regularly, but I would leave a nice tip for her during the holidays.

[mgoblue]

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Splitting checks shouldn't be a problem, just let the server know beforehand, so it can be separated on the server's notepad.

It's a bitch to remember Person A got a coke, Person B a water, Person C a beer, etc.

It did bug me one time when our server said they would try to when we made it known at the onset. Nah, you're gonna do it. If we can't via policy, okay. But don't "try." Get it done.

Yeah, we had a big family group on our last vacation and we'd tell people the 3 or 4 split checks we'd need and they were usually ok with it. I try to tell them ahead of time if possible.

For those of you with dogs, do you tip your groomer?

I used to use the same groomer. I didn't tip her regularly, but I would leave a nice tip for her during the holidays.

We use PetSmart, so don't really tip the groomer. If I used a regular person running their own business or something I think I'd be more likely to.

[jeremym480]

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Alarm installation techs tip or no tip?

[C the Lyte]

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No tip. It's his job and he's making a decent enough wage.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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I tip my masseuse pretty well. She is really cheap though. $35 for an hour and I usually bump it up to $50 or $55 depending on what cash I have on me. She has took look and rub all over my nasty body, so I should probably just leave a Benjamin every time.

[Beantown]

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Yeah, we had a big family group on our last vacation and we'd tell people the 3 or 4 split checks we'd need and they were usually ok with it. I try to tell them ahead of time if possible.

That's the big thing I was getting at. I think I came off as saying we hate it when you split checks every time. (Some do, I know that, I don't care) Just tell your server when you sit down at the beginning of the meal and order your drinks. That way when we ring things in we can assign it to the right guest as we go so at the end, when we're busy with other tables and you guys are tapping your feet we don't have to scramble to make sure everyone has the right items on their check, etc.

I tend to enjoy split checks because then one cheap bastard doesn't pay for the entire bill and screw me out of a good tip on the entire table, just his portion.

[CMH]

That's the big thing I was getting at. I think I came off as saying we hate it when you split checks every time. (Some do, I know that, I don't care) Just tell your server when you sit down at the beginning of the meal and order your drinks. That way when we ring things in we can assign it to the right guest as we go so at the end, when we're busy with other tables and you guys are tapping your feet we don't have to scramble to make sure everyone has the right items on their check, etc.

I tend to enjoy split checks because then one cheap bastard doesn't pay for the entire bill and screw me out of a good tip on the entire table, just his portion.

I enjoy split checks as a customer because no matter what happens, there always seems to be money missing when you do the group thing. And it's never a couple dollars. It's always like $40.

And seriously, what the hell? Without fail someone seems to forget what they ordered.

I simply refuse to help. I drop my money on the table. I tip well. If we are short, someone else has to come up with the money.


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[ESPNdeportes]

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Good read:

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2013/08/tipless_restaurants_the_linkery_s_owner_explains_why_abolishing_tipping.html

[55]

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Good read:

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/c...g_tipping.html

Hardly.

He keeps saying that the service improved at his place when he eliminated tipping, yet he failed to cite a single example of how and why. That was a completely hollow article with absolutely no substance.

[Redacted01]

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Hardly.

He keeps saying that the service improved at his place when he eliminated tipping, yet he failed to cite a single example of how and why. That was a completely hollow article with absolutely no substance.

Uhh, did you not read it? Did I miss something?

There was a whole paragraph on the things he noticed that had improved, how (because he replaced tips with service charges), and why he thinks it did so.

"When we switched from tipping to a service charge, our food improved, probably because our cooks were being paid more and didn't feel taken for granted. In turn, business improved, and within a couple of months, our server team was making more money than it had under the tipped system. The quality of our service also improved. In my observation, however, that wasn't mainly because the servers were making more money (although that helped, too). Instead, our service improved principally because eliminating tips makes it easier to provide good service."

[Fresh Tendrils]

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1. The cooks and servers were being paid roughly the same before the restaurant switched to this "service charge" (which is still a tip, so its not like he eliminated tipping). Am I understanding that correctly? If so, why? Are there laws in CA to prevent servers from being paid less than federal minimum wage?

2. So essentially he gave everyone save the servers a raise. Well no **** things are gonna improve. Giving raises is kind of a morale and incentive booster.

3. He still didn't explain how it worked. Did revenue increase? How did the servers end up making more with a shared and capped tipping system? How much more? There are glossy words, but no stats. He gives subjective examples, but no objective ones.

[ESPNdeportes]

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Yes, there isn't objective data, and it could have helped. I'm a data nerd

"When we switched from tipping to a service charge, our food improved, probably because our cooks were being paid more and didn't feel taken for granted. In turn, business improved, and within a couple of months, our server team was making more money than it had under the tipped system. The quality of our service also improved. In my observation, however, that wasn't mainly because the servers were making more money (although that helped, too). Instead, our service improved principally because eliminating tips makes it easier to provide good service."

I take it more as a qualitative experience, not quantitative. If you aren't familiar with Slate- it is an online magazine (outshoot of the Washington Post). They love to write about the normal controversial issues but also they will bring up random ones that aren't necessarily part of the public discourse (like this topic). Generally, they are known for taking a contrarian position to most other media.

[ESPNdeportes]

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3. He still didn't explain how it worked. Did revenue increase? How did the servers end up making more with a shared and capped tipping system? How much more? There are glossy words, but no stats. He gives subjective examples, but no objective ones.

see paragraph above, and I agree with you

[ESPNdeportes]

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Hardly.

He keeps saying that the service improved at his place when he eliminated tipping, yet he failed to cite a single example of how and why. That was a completely hollow article with absolutely no substance.

First page isn't very strong, I agree. But the 2nd page is definitely adds substance.....I hope you at least read it

[55]

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1. The cooks and servers were being paid roughly the same before the restaurant switched to this "service charge" (which is still a tip, so its not like he eliminated tipping). Am I understanding that correctly? If so, why? Are there laws in CA to prevent servers from being paid less than federal minimum wage?

2. So essentially he gave everyone save the servers a raise. Well no **** things are gonna improve. Giving raises is kind of a morale and incentive booster.

3. He still didn't explain how it worked. Did revenue increase? How did the servers end up making more with a shared and capped tipping system? How much more? There are glossy words, but no stats. He gives subjective examples, but no objective ones.

I did read both pages (come on, seriously?) and I agree with FT's post 100%.