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What's the right answer, the right balance and timing of picking things back up? Damned if I know.
This playing the victim bit hurts your point though. Even people slamming other's opinions aren't big, bad "masses" trying to get you.Comment
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I don't really understand why so many people are pitching the economy vs. public health like there's a trade-off here, when there isn't.
I'm not an economist, but it seems pretty f'ing obvious to me that you can't have a healthy economy when there's a raging pandemic incapacitating millions of workers and people are voluntarily boycotting businesses. Containing the spread of the virus is a necessary precondition to economic recovery.
This is it. Seems to be a faction of people who are willing to risk it to open up their businesses again, go back to work, etc. But if you can’t convince the masses, there’s no point. The businesses will be open but there won’t be any customers.
There’s going to be stragglers no matter how long we wait, definitely understand that. Some locales will be more keen to open than others, too. I don’t think we can really fully assess the state of things until we let more time elapse though. We’re not there yet. It’s only been a month.
Right now, I like the May 15th date, but it’ll depend what the numbers look like as we get closer to that date. We should ease things in when we’re ready, too. I’m certainly not rushing to go to a sports game, concert, or even a restaurant the moment we’re able to.NHL - Philadelphia Flyers
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Deaths are so much higher than is being reported.
This is not a scandal, though. It’s an issue of logistics. But when we look at the overall death rate, it’s going to show a much, much larger impact. I expect it will be a staggering number to those trying to minimize the seriousness of this.
But be prepared for death total 3-5 times as large as being reported.Comment
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There's a difference between looking for a way out/forward, and wholesale minimizing what is going on with demonstrably false equivalences to the flu and other risks in daily life. That's what's going to illicit the justified reactions and disagreement.Comment
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I think I'd be ok with going to a not packed bar/restaurant and like the gym once the curve is bent, people can be regularly tested and treatment options are more refined.
I don't see myself attending a concert or sporting event until there's a vaccine though.NFL - Vikings
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I don't think anyone in here has been denying that the economy shouldn't open up at some point, including me, but this does slice both ways.
I disagree with people that state life isn't precious and because I would think that wouldn't sit right with most anyone. I think it's normal to say that the economy needs to open, but at the same time, appreciate life of our loved one's as well. Personally, I can't see where anyone can put a price on life, but that is my opinion, YMMV.
Yes, the economy will open in different parts of the country where there would be much less cases like WY or the Dakota's, but it will be a patient roll out.
This virus is not in our hands, it's in the hands of people from our scientist and our governments.
Is it unnatural for everyone to agree that before we start going back to some type of normal, we need to wait until the curve is on the downward slope? If people start wanting to leave during the apex, then isn't a possibility to come down with the virus that still is highly contiguous with the possibility of infecting others that have underlying conditions that are close to family and friends?
I agree with MK that a lot of us come from different backgrounds and I also think there are some that have suffered their own tragedies in life.
I don't know that either side is "right", but I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a definable endpoint for when the lockdowns can start unwinding.
The bottom line is I don't see any conflict here at all (just a lot of straw-man argumentation mostly by talking heads on TV), and I think some of this conflict is being manufactured because that's basically what we do in this country. At least that hasn't come to a stop during the pandemic.
I forget where I found this but in other terms it's
"I was afraid of freezing in my house during the winter time, so I took everyone's advice and added lots of insulation, and now my house is warm during the winter, so what was the point of all the spending time and money on all the insulation?"
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Based on what I've seen, I think the vast majority of people fall into the first category, and only a small (vocal) minority fall into the second. But the disagreement and/or discussion isn't necessarily bad; I think it's healthy to ask questions, even if they are unpopular ones.Comment
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I also think the discussion is far too binary in that it's just "death vs. not deaths". Read some accounts of the people who beat this thing. The "mild" version of this is HORRIBLE. 2 weeks of a fever that borders on delirium, violent dry cough, trouble breathing, chronic fatigue, diarrhea, prolonged loss of taste and smell. There are reports of people who had it last month and still haven't gotten their legs back. Added to that fact that it's highly contagious. I don't know about y'all but I want ZERO parts of that.
The death rate on this thing could be 0% and it would still be a huge public health crisis.NFL - Vikings
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I also think the discussion is far too binary in that it's just "death vs. not deaths". Read some accounts of the people who beat this thing. The "mild" version of this is HORRIBLE. 2 weeks of a fever that borders on delirium, violent dry cough, trouble breathing, chronic fatigue, diarrhea, prolonged loss of taste and smell. There are reports of people who had it last month and still haven't gotten their legs back. Added to that fact that it's highly contagious. I don't know about y'all but I want ZERO parts of that.
The death rate on this thing could be 0% and it would still be a huge public health crisis.Comment
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Sure, it could happen. As long as people accept whatever the number is, and don't just say, "oh it's way more than that," without some clear facts that deaths were directly caused by Covid. The situation is dire enough on its own.Comment
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I also think the discussion is far too binary in that it's just "death vs. not deaths". Read some accounts of the people who beat this thing. The "mild" version of this is HORRIBLE. 2 weeks of a fever that borders on delirium, violent dry cough, trouble breathing, chronic fatigue, diarrhea, prolonged loss of taste and smell. There are reports of people who had it last month and still haven't gotten their legs back. Added to that fact that it's highly contagious. I don't know about y'all but I want ZERO parts of that.
The death rate on this thing could be 0% and it would still be a huge public health crisis.Comment
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Cut the quote to save space, but I don't think you're wrong at all here. My concern is that there isn't a plan being communicated. At this point they're just broad statements, and they're broad statements that are not acknowledging that we're still in the process of getting a handle on this and that trying too quickly to get back to "normal" might hurt what progress we've made.
What's the right answer, the right balance and timing of picking things back up? Damned if I know.
On one hand I get it, we're still at least 3 weeks away from being able to start transitioning into a different approach, so they probably don't want people jumping the gun and thinking its time to stop social distancing. At the same time, definitely a lot of anxiety about whether they have a handle on how to get back to some sense of normalcy.Originally posted by Jay BilasThe question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConnComment
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