CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

[countryboy]

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I'm trying to understand why they would not want to test asymptomatic people, when studies have shown that those that test positive for Covid but never run a fever or show telltale signs of being infected, still can suffer damage to their lungs just as those who are more severely infected (show symptoms)

EDIT: Ahhh..I think I cleared up my own confusion

Apparently the CDC is only stating that you do not have to be tested if your asymptomatic and have not been exposed to someone who tests positive and have been within 6 feet of them for at least 15 minutes.

I was reading that as stating that so long as you are not showing symptoms you do not need to be tested, which I thought was silly if someone had been exposed to someone who tested positive.

[roadman]

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I'm not trying to change the topic, but this is something I touched on about Wisconsin.

WSJ: “The rise in rural infections in Illinois continues a summer trend. New cases in the state’s 75 nonmetropolitan counties have outpaced those in the state’s 27 metropolitan counties...It follows a broader trend in the Midwest since July”

[KSUowls]

Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

I'm trying to understand why they would not want to test asymptomatic people, when studies have shown that those that test positive for Covid but never run a fever or show telltale signs of being infected, still can suffer damage to their lungs just as those who are more severely infected (show symptoms)

EDIT: Ahhh..I think I cleared up my own confusion

Apparently the CDC is only stating that you do not have to be tested if your asymptomatic and have not been exposed to someone who tests positive and have been within 6 feet of them for at least 15 minutes.

I was reading that as stating that so long as you are not showing symptoms you do not need to be tested, which I thought was silly if someone had been exposed to someone who tested positive.

Yeah I'm trying to understand that as well. Your guess is as good as mine, but the only thing that I can think of is that we do not have the capacity to test all those people. From the cdc guideline for testing I'm guessing that it's just a calculated risk. To date only like 2% of the population has tested positive. So if you don't have symptoms and you haven't been exposed to anyone then you probably don't have it.

Edit - Didnt notice your edit.


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[canes21]

Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

I'm trying to understand why they would not want to test asymptomatic people, when studies have shown that those that test positive for Covid but never run a fever or show telltale signs of being infected, still can suffer damage to their lungs just as those who are more severely infected (show symptoms)

EDIT: Ahhh..I think I cleared up my own confusion

Apparently the CDC is only stating that you do not have to be tested if your asymptomatic and have not been exposed to someone who tests positive and have been within 6 feet of them for at least 15 minutes.

I was reading that as stating that so long as you are not showing symptoms you do not need to be tested, which I thought was silly if someone had been exposed to someone who tested positive.

You were reading it correctly the first time. The guideline update that I have posted on last page says that if you HAVE been exposed you don't need a test unless you are high risk or have another reason requiring a test like being a LTC worker.


If you're an individual like myself who isn't high risk or needs to be tested for work reasons, then you don't need to be tested unless you eventually start showing symptoms.



If you read it again you will notice it says if you've been around someone with Covid for more than 15 minutes that testing isn't necessary unless you're high risk or need to for other reasons like work, so it is saying if you've been exposed you don't need to be tested and you should just monitor yourself.

[countryboy]

CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

I know what it says,no need to read again.

If you read my post I mentioned the 15 minutes of being around someone who is positive


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[JayhawkerStL]

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It's political.

CDC was pressured 'from the top down' to change coronavirus testing guidance, official says

Dr. Carlos del Rio, an infectious disease specialist and associate dean of Emory University School of Medicine, said on CNN Newsroom on Wednesday that the CDC has not provided evidence to explain the changes.

"I mean, the evidence that I'm aware of as of today is that close to 40% of the cases of the infections are asymptomatic and asymptomatic people transmit the infection," Del Rio said.

"So, not testing -- I mean, if you have been in contact with somebody for a few minutes, that's okay. But if you have been in contact for 50 minutes and that people doesn't have a mask, I think you need to be tested regardless if you have symptoms or not. We know especially young people going into the house and then transmit inside the household. So, the guidelines baffle me and I really don't understand them."

[mestevo]

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I hadn't seen that news yet, but was about to post something similar. It reads like it's reflecting the political desire to reduce testing.

If you've been exposed you should be tested. I'd posit most don't even realize what high risk means, and probably more than half the population of the US falls into a high risk (cancer, obesity, etc) or potentially serious risk (asthma, smokers, etc).

We can't even get people on the same page on masks, and we expect them to understand if they're high risk or not? Or to recognize some of the lesser symptoms and test / quarantine? Hilarious.

[canes21]

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I know what it says,no need to read again.

If you read my post I mentioned the 15 minutes of being around someone who is positive


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I guess I am just misreading your edit then, because the CDC is saying if you were exposed, within 6 feet, and around them for more than 15 minutes that you still don't generally need a test if you are asymptomatic.

[canes21]

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It's political.

CDC was pressured 'from the top down' to change coronavirus testing guidance, official says

What a misleading headline.

Here is what the CDC and HHS actually said.

CDC would not comment on questions about its own policy change. A CDC spokesperson referred all questions to the Department of Health and Human Services.

In a statement to CNN, HHS Assistant Secretary Brett Giroir said: "This Guidance has been updated to reflect current evidence and best public health practices, and to further emphasize using CDC-approved prevention strategies to protect yourself, your family, and the most vulnerable of all ages."

The "official" the headline mentions is a dean who isn't even associated with the CDC or HHS.

[countryboy]

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I guess I am just misreading your edit then, because the CDC is saying if you were exposed, within 6 feet, and around them for more than 15 minutes that you still don't generally need a test if you are asymptomatic.

I read this as they recommend you get tested if you meet any of the following criteria. If you don't, then you don't generally need to be tested.

[mestevo]

Re: CDC Officials Warn of Coronavirus Outbreaks in the United States.

What a misleading headline.

Here is what the CDC and HHS actually said.



The "official" the headline mentions is a dean who isn't even associated with the CDC or HHS.

If you read more than the headline you'd see the official is a federal health official close to the process, and the infectious disease specialist and associate dean of Emory University School of Medicine was just asked about this guidance.

[canes21]

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I read this as they recommend you get tested if you meet any of the following criteria. If you don't, then you don't generally need to be tested.

Here is exactly what the updated guidelines say.



So even if you have been in close contact with someone for more than 15 minutes you don't generally need a test unless you are high risk or have another entity requiring you to like your healthcare provider.

If you read more than the headline you'd see the official is a federal health official close to the process, and the infectious disease specialist and associate dean of Emory University School of Medicine was just asked about this guidance.

I obviously read the article since I directly quoted it. The guy is not a part of the CDC or HHC and the headline is trying to make it read as if a CDC official made that statement which is completely different from what actually happened.

[countryboy]

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Here is exactly what the updated guidelines say.



So even if you have been in close contact with someone for more than 15 minutes you don't generally need a test unless you are high risk or have another entity requiring you to like your healthcare provider.

Again, I know what it says.

And again, from their website, I posted the update from August 24th on "Should you get tested" and again, that reads that they recommend that you get tested if you meet any of the criteria laid out.

You can keep telling me exactly what it says and I'll keep referring you to their own guidelines as to who they recommend get tested.

[mestevo]

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I obviously read the article since I directly quoted it. The guy is not a part of the CDC or HHC and the headline is trying to make it read as if a CDC official made that statement which is completely different from what actually happened.

Nobody is claiming he is, nor does the headline. Which part of this confuses you?

(CNN)A sudden change in federal guidelines on coronavirus testing came this week as a result of pressure from the upper ranks of the Trump administration, a federal health official close to the process tells CNN.

"It's coming from the top down," the official said of the new directive from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Or are we doing the Facebook argument thing where if it's not a named source it doesn't count and pretending we don't know how journalism works even though the balance of the information we do have corroborates the point being made?

[canes21]

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Again, I know what it says.

And again, from their website, I posted the update from August 24th on "Should you get tested" and again, that reads that they recommend that you get tested if you meet any of the criteria laid out.

You can keep telling me exactly what it says and I'll keep referring you to their own guidelines as to who they recommend get tested.

So essentially the CDC website is contradicting itself is where the problem lies, not with our reading comprehension abilities. We're both posting from the CDC's site.