***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

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  • jb12780
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    #13786
    Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

    Originally posted by Krebstar
    Once again, this feels like one of Pepe’s few chances to show Arteta he should stay after this Summer.

    You could add Willian into the mix as well. I think this also signals the end for AMN as well.


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    • Krebstar
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      #13787
      Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

      Originally posted by jb12780
      You could add Willian into the mix as well. I think this also signals the end for AMN as well.


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      I fear Willian will stay, and they’ll continue to fit him in now and then. Pepe, I do wonder if we’ll go the West Ham Haller approach, and just get whatever we can to end it.

      I think AMN’s casualness is a no go for Arteta. Just doesn’t see the hunger he wants to see, etc.
      Last edited by Krebstar; 01-23-2021, 09:47 AM.

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      • Krebstar
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        #13788
        Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

        Would've loved to win, but hopefully we can make adjustments for the league match on Tuesday.

        Still in the Europa League, so focus needs to be on that, also. We're also only six points out of fourth-place, although it'll take a miracle to move that high up.

        Not surprising on a day that we start Willian and Pepe we struggled to create.

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        • Suntan Superman
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          #13789
          Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

          It's finally officially official from all parties, Mesut Özil has left the Emirates and North London and is on his way to Fenerbache.

          Time to trade Ö for Ø
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          • jb12780
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            #13790
            Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

            Originally posted by Suntan Superman
            It's finally officially official from all parties, Mesut Özil has left the Emirates and North London and is on his way to Fenerbache.

            Time to trade Ö for Ø

            Could have used Ødegaard’s services yesterday against Southampton.


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            • Krebstar
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              #13791
              Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

              Odegaard fitting in well, not finishing embarrassingly low, and him wanting to stay would be great.

              But that’s a long way off.

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              • Krebstar
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                #13792
                Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                Last season Odegard had an xA90 of 0.24, which ranked 7th amongst players with 30+ appearances. Our best xA90 player was Pepe, at 0.22, 14th amongst players with 30+ appearances.

                Both Odegaard and Pepe had 31 appearances, but while Pepe was our most creative player, he lost possession far more than Odegaard.

                Pepe was dispossessed a total of 53 times, Odegaard 38. Pepe had 61 unsuccessful touches, Odegaard 54.

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                • Krebstar
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                  #13793
                  Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                  Originally posted by Krebstar
                  Last season Odegaard had an xA90 of 0.24, which ranked 7th amongst players with 30+ appearances. Our best xA90 player was Pepe, at 0.22, 14th amongst players with 30+ appearances.

                  Both Odegaard and Pepe had 31 appearances, but while Pepe was our most creative player, he lost possession far more than Odegaard.

                  Pepe was dispossessed a total of 53 times, Ødegard 38. Pepe had 61 unsuccessful touches, Odegaard 54.

                  Odegaard v Pepe Continued
                  As for key passes (a pass that leads directly to a shot on goal), Odegaard ranked 7th in 19/20 with 62. Pepe lead Arsenal with 40, Oil had 37.

                  Odegaard ranked 9th overall in successful dribbles, with 63, second most for Real Sociedad. Pepe lead Arsenal, and ranked 11th overall with 72.

                  What's the point of all this? Basically, comparing our statistically most creative player last season, Pepe, with Odegaard to see just how massive his presence could be in the squad.

                  One more comparison—corners—an area we can improve on in terms of delivering effective passes.

                  Odegaard ranked 9th overall in accurate corner kicks with 41. Pepe ranked 12th overall, and lead Arsenal in accurate corners with 33.



                  Oh, Willian
                  You might be wondering how Willian ranked instead of Pepe in his lats season at Chelsea, let's look.

                  Willian made 36 appearances for Chelsea in 19/20, and had an xA90 of .30, was dispossessed 30 times, had 62 unsuccessful touches, made 76 key passes, 65 successful dribbles, and delivered 48 accurate corners.

                  The problem is we have not seen that Willian at all, and I'd say that's one reason why we've brought in Odegaard. Willian has not lived up to the expectation of bringing creativity into the squad, which is surely one of the reasons he was brought in.

                  He's made 14 appearances, and ranks 51st in key passes with 18. If you include the first match of the season against Fulham, his xA90 is 0.27, ranking 6th amongst players with a minimum of 14 appearances. If you remove that Fulham match, it drops to 0.23 which is not terrible, but there's more.

                  If you compare Tierney's latest 13 appearances to Willian's 13 appearances after the Fulham match, Tierney's xA90 is 0.21, which is solid.

                  Also, in Willian's first 5 appearances, his xA90 was 0.26, ESR's was 0.30 and Ceballos at 0.32 is even better.

                  The point on Willian is that he's not providing the creativity we need, or expected. We desperately need Odegaard.



                  I have too much time on my hands.
                  Last edited by Krebstar; 01-25-2021, 11:06 AM.

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                  • jb12780
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                    #13794
                    Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                    Didn’t need advanced stats to show that Willian has been ****.


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                    • jb12780
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                      #13795
                      Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                      Mustafi and the club are in talks to end his deal early.


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                      • Krebstar
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                        #13796
                        Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                        Originally posted by jb12780
                        Didn’t need advanced stats to show that Willian has been ****.


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                        • Krebstar
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                          #13797
                          Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                          Originally posted by jb12780
                          Mustafi and the club are in talks to end his deal early.

                          The end of an era that can not come soon enough.

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                          • Suntan Superman
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                            #13798
                            Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                            Originally posted by Krebstar
                            The end of an era that can not come soon enough.
                            I don't know that I'll ever be more wrong in my evaluation of a transfer.
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                            • Krebstar
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                              #13799
                              Re: ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                              Originally posted by Suntan Superman
                              I don't know that I'll ever be more wrong in my evaluation of a transfer.

                              His inflated cost never helped him, and part of his inflated cost was due to Arsenal dragging their feet and not taking care of business earlier.

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                              • jb12780
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                                #13800
                                ***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

                                Quite the winter window Arsenal are having in the grand scheme of things.

                                Edit: Sokratis to Olympiacos is official.

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