***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

[Laffer]

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Poor Ramsey. I'm so bummed out right now.

[Spectre]

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Ouch I just saw a picture

[rsnomar05]

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Ramsey.

Overshadows the win and only being down 3 points.

Shawcross's reaction showed that it wasn't malicious and he was clearly broken up about it.

I hope this doesn't have the same effect on the Gunners that the Eduardo injury had.

[Rexis]

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Dayumm Ramsey got effed up.

[kerosene31]

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That's just awful...

[Krebstar]

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At this point I could honestly not give a **** less how Shawcross is feeling. Sick of seeing reports of how nice of a guy he is, which Wenger said would happen. I'm not saying it was malicious, because it was not, but it still happened and was a very clumsy tackle. He will not be labeled anything bad from this, but Ramsey is left wondering if he'll ever be the same on the pitch again.

It seems so far that people would rather talk about how unfortunate it was for him, rather than Ramsey.

Honestly, the absolute worst part was seeing the other players react, most notably Fabregas. I had a sick feeling in my stomach today when I heard about it, and I it feels even worse now that I saw it.

Also, after seeing it, I'm very glad that it didn't appear to be malicious. I just posted not long ago about how many fouls Fabregas suffers, and how the whole, "knock Arsenal around" strategy goes to far sometimes, with just blatant, clumsy and dangerous challenges. It doesn't appear this was directly related, but I can't help but feel in some way that these things would not happen, if players didn't try and play overly physical or tough, especially when one team has been labeled not to be tough.

[Krebstar]

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The great thing about our wise spending the last few years is that it will pay off in the long run. In about 5 or 10 years (I know thats a long time away) once we finally finish paying off the Emirates.

We will be swimming in cash. And will probably be the best team in the EPL for the next couple of decades.

It really is great to not only see, but support such an excellently well run club at this moment in time.

[ZM Punk]

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I'm so pissed its not even funny.

Screw Ryan Shawcross and Dan Smith and Martin Taylor. These guys have been doing the same thing that teams have been doing against us for years. Thats repeatedly kicking the **** out of our players. And because were not an English team, the media thinks its alright, thats horsecrap.

This is the 3rd time this has happened in a very short time. No other team in the world has had this happen to them, and its not a coincidence, not when it happens on numerous occasions.

The funny thing is you see nothing condemming Shawcross from the English media. Quite the contrary, you actually see articles feeling sorry for him, like he was the one that got his leg snapped in half.

Gallas was cruxified for a tackle that didn't even produce and injury. And don't get me started on the Eduardo situation. Bottom line is that the English medias bias against Arsenal and its players is borderline slander. And is the main cause of the Ramsey injury yesterday.

Arseblogger sums it up very well.

http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog

[Krebstar]

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I'm so pissed its not even funny.

Screw Ryan Shawcross and Dan Smith and Martin Taylor. These guys have been doing the same thing that teams have been doing against us for years. Thats repeatedly kicking the **** out of our players. And because were not an English team, the media thinks its alright, thats horsecrap.

This is the 3rd time this has happened in a very short time. No other team in the world has had this happen to them, and its not a coincidence, not when it happens on numerous occasions.

The funny thing is you see nothing condemming Shawcross from the English media. Quite the contrary, you actually see articles feeling sorry for him, like he was the one that got his leg snapped in half.

Gallas was cruxified for a tackle that didn't even produce and injury. And don't get me started on the Eduardo situation. Bottom line is that the English medias bias against Arsenal and its players is borderline slander. And is the main cause of the Ramsey injury yesterday.

Arseblogger sums it up very well.

http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog

Today's post on the Arseblog should be published on each and every single British football news site. It says what people need to finally realize. I believe in the title of the post it says the media has blood on their hands, and as large as an accusation it is, it's true.

[Krebstar]

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Shawcross seems as if he could be blatantly aiming for Adebayor's ankle in November of 2008:

http://www.twitvid.com/3BCE0

In 2007, Shawcross also broke Francis Jeffers (former Arsenal player) ankle in a challenge, and was immediately noted not to be "that kind of player", or one that would do such a thing on purpose.

I'm getting more and more upset about this as more time passes.

[Perceptor]

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I'm bummed overall about Ramsey....he's got such a bright future and I saw him as a future star. I just pray he can fully recover from his injury and develop the way we all think he will

Don't even get me started on Shawcross

Having said that, I was impressed the players didn't fold and were able to win that game under the circumstances. For some reason, I just feel that we will be even stronger and push harder to win the league....we have a different captain and because everyone know what happened when Eduardo went down, the team will play even harder

[Krebstar]

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I'm bummed overall about Ramsey....he's got such a bright future and I saw him as a future star. I just pray he can fully recover from his injury and develop the way we all think he will

Don't even get me started on Shawcross

Having said that, I was impressed the players didn't fold and were able to win that game under the circumstances. For some reason, I just feel that we will be even stronger and push harder to win the league....we have a different captain and because everyone know what happened when Eduardo went down, the team will play even harder

I'm sure some will call it lunacy, such as my Man U supporting friend, but I feel even stronger now than ever that we can win the league. If anything, I think this will make us mentally tougher, and not the other way around.

[KOL]

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I'm bummed overall about Ramsey....he's got such a bright future and I saw him as a future star. I just pray he can fully recover from his injury and develop the way we all think he will

Don't even get me started on Shawcross

Having said that, I was impressed the players didn't fold and were able to win that game under the circumstances. For some reason, I just feel that we will be even stronger and push harder to win the league....we have a different captain and because everyone know what happened when Eduardo went down, the team will play even harder

Shawcross had every right to go for the ball, it was actually a very good challenge, just unfortunate that Ramsay's momentum and the force of the tackle meant that something had to give.
It wasn't a lunge, these challenges were made every week in the 80's.

[ZM Punk]

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Shawcross had every right to go for the ball, it was actually a very good challenge, just unfortunate that Ramsay's momentum and the force of the tackle meant that something had to give.
It wasn't a lunge, these challenges were made every week in the 80's.

If it was a very good challenge, then why did Peter Walton give Shawcross a straight red?

Straight red cards are usually handed out for really bad challenges, atleast thats how I've always interpreted the rules.

[Perceptor]

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Exactly....The challenge was reckless....end of story. I'm certain Shawcross didn't mean it, but everyone knows it was a bad tackle.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to us mounting a title challenge and coming out as champions