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  • doyce7
    Pro
    • Nov 2013
    • 631

    #2086
    re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

    Originally posted by ImTellinTim
    You're a lot more confident than I am. The main point is that the Hex is a far easier path to the World Cup because the margin of error is so great. Mexico looked like dog crap most of the way and still comfortably made it in.

    You rack up 4 home draws in any Euro group and you are dead.
    I wouldn't say Mexico "comfortably" made it, they almost didn't. If US didn't score twice at the end against Panama I don't think Mexico would have gotten to play New Zealand for the last spot.

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    • ImTellinTim
      YNWA
      • Sep 2006
      • 33028

      #2087
      re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

      Originally posted by doyce7
      I wouldn't say Mexico "comfortably" made it, they almost didn't. If US didn't score twice at the end against Panama I don't think Mexico would have gotten to play New Zealand for the last spot.

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      Yeah, I meant in that tie with NZ. But that's also kind of my point. You back into 4th in CONCACAF and the only time you really have to have to worry is if it's the year you play 5th place CONMEBOL.

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      • dubcity
        Hall Of Fame
        • May 2012
        • 17873

        #2088
        re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

        So, Tim Howard wants back on the squad in September. I love Klinsmann, but he can't just put him back as the #1 keeper after 1 year off. Not after how he did Landon.

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        • jasontoddwhitt
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 8095

          #2089
          re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

          Difference between Howard and Donovan is Howard was actually playing for his club.

          Still though, I feel that Guzan should be the #1 and if Howard wants the spot back he'll have to take it.

          Both of them didn't exactly have the best form at the club level last season.

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          • dubcity
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2012
            • 17873

            #2090
            re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

            Originally posted by jasontoddwhitt
            Difference between Howard and Donovan is Howard was actually playing for his club.

            Is that better or worse tho? Landon wanted a break from everything, while Howard just didn't feel like playing for this squad. If it's about showing commitment to the national team, they're either in the same boat or Landon gets the edge. If it's about form or skill level, Landon did pretty much dominate that 2013 Gold Cup after his break.

            I just think Klinsmann has to be somewhat consistent.

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            • ImTellinTim
              YNWA
              • Sep 2006
              • 33028

              #2091
              re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

              It wasn't just the hiatus with Donovan. There was a history between JK and LD.

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              • msuduo
                Pro
                • Sep 2011
                • 619

                #2092
                re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                We suck. That is all

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                • jasontoddwhitt
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 8095

                  #2093
                  re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                  Plus I think it was the timing? Donovan did it right in the middle of world cup qualifying. Howard took his immediately after the world cup, when most managers are wanting to experiment anyways.

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                  • Suntan Superman
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7135

                    #2094
                    re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

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                    • dickey1331
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                      • Sep 2009
                      • 14285

                      #2095
                      re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                      I know what the U.S. Soccer president said but do you think JK job should be in danger? I mean this was a pretty terrible Gold Cup?
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                      • jb12780
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 10665

                        #2096
                        re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                        I think his job is safe. I'm sure some people (Beckerman) played themselves off the team.

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                        • KG
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                          • Sep 2005
                          • 17583

                          #2097
                          re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                          Originally posted by jb12780
                          I think his job is safe. I'm sure some people (Beckerman) played themselves off the team.

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                          Yeah although Beckerman is 33 so he's near the end of his shelf-life anyways when it comes to the USMNT. Hopefully Diskerud will take make that position his but he still needs some work there.
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                          • msuduo
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 619

                            #2098
                            re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                            I'm done with the JK experiment. His teams only seem to play well as the underdog. Can't have long term success like that.

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                            • lhslancers
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 3589

                              #2099
                              re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                              Originally posted by msuduo
                              I'm done with the JK experiment. His teams only seem to play well as the underdog. Can't have love term success like that.

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                              I think he gets through the next World Cup. If the team has a similar result to the last time he will be gone. Look the US does not have world class talent on balance but they could be this good with someone like Bradley in charge. They hired JK to do something special and so far he has not delivered.

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                              • dubcity
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • May 2012
                                • 17873

                                #2100
                                re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                                The players just aren't there. You can change coaches all you want, but there's only so much this team can achieve with this talent. There's a decent chance they'll beat the winner of Jamaica/Mex, and then people will be back to pretending they're better than they are. I think JK is the right coach because he's realistic, and he knows they have to survive on heart, grit and taking teams by surprise, because the talent is what it is.

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