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  • Blaxican8504
    All Star
    • Jul 2002
    • 4150

    #886
    re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

    Like I said previously, the perception of how a striker is performing is largely dependent on whether or not they are scoring goals. I still maintain that nothing really has changed for Jozy in terms of how he is playing now compared to when he wasn't scoring. He's still not great in the air, he doesn't always show for the ball, and sometimes his runs are lazy. But because he's scoring, we can easily overlook that. Other than the goal, I don't think he played particularly well tonight. But that is partially because we weren't getting him the ball. Which leads me to my next point...

    He is the type of player that needs service to be effective. And I think we can all agree that service into Jozy and Dempsey has been largely improved over these last few qualifiers. Zusi has largely been responsible for most of it, with Fabian Johnson also deserving some credit.

    But we need to remember that in the first stage of qualifying, Jozy wasn't playing much. Gomez was getting picked ahead of him based on how well he was doing for his club and when Jozy finally got into the team, there was no Bradley or Donovan. With any combination of Beckerman, Edu, Williams, and a newly introduced Zusi serving as your creative force, he was bound to be feeding on scraps.

    The team is finally buying into what Klinnsman has been drilling into their heads, Bradley is dictating play in midfield, Zusi has gotten his feet wet at this level, and Johnson/Johnson are able to provide balance on the other side. I think that the progress that Jozy has made at club level + everything I just mentioned is why we're seeing what we're seeing.

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    • Blaxican8504
      All Star
      • Jul 2002
      • 4150

      #887
      re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

      As for the game itself, I really do prefer Johnson at LB. My only concern is that he seems to get caught too far inside, leaving the wide player a ton of space.

      I liked the inclusion of Johnson. His pace helps to stretch the defense and having him on the pitch allows him and Zusi to occasionally swap wings. This was most noticeable when Zusi moved over to the left and put in two crosses and being involved in the build-up that led to the goal.

      I prefer Cameron over Jones in midfield. Cameron will sit right in front of the defense and help clean things up, which allows Bradley to push a little further forward. Now that Donovan is out of the picture, Bradley is by far our most creative player. I think that having that him closer to Dempsey and Altidore will really add to our attack (see: Panama). Dribbling, passing, vision, he has it all. When he is partnered with Jones, I think we lose that part of his game because Jermaine is usually the one that pushes forward and leaves Bradley to play from a much deeper position.

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      • HKPound
        Pro
        • Sep 2012
        • 552

        #888
        re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

        Cameron also has brilliant ball control and is so agile for a guy his size. His passing ability is superior to Jones in my opinion as well.

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        • VTPack919
          We Go Again
          • Jun 2003
          • 9708

          #889
          Originally posted by HKPound
          Cameron also has brilliant ball control and is so agile for a guy his size. His passing ability is superior to Jones in my opinion as well.
          Especially his long passes. I would like to see Fabian pushed back up once Beasley returns. He can make passes and has touch that Eddie (love him as much as anyone) does not.
          Last edited by VTPack919; 06-19-2013, 08:57 AM.
          YNWA

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          • jb12780
            Hall of Fame
            • Oct 2008
            • 10665

            #890
            Besler/Gonzalez looked real good last night as well.

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            • jt45
              All Star
              • Apr 2003
              • 5074

              #891
              re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

              I still think Donovan will be back in the squad at some point and having him off the bench can be huge. I feel the same way about EJ. He can be more valuable as a second striker when we really need to push for a goal.

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              • VTPack919
                We Go Again
                • Jun 2003
                • 9708

                #892
                re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                Originally posted by jt45
                I still think Donovan will be back in the squad at some point and having him off the bench can be huge. I feel the same way about EJ. He can be more valuable as a second striker when we really need to push for a goal.
                That is the role that I feel Eddie is best suited for as well...
                YNWA

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                • jt45
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 5074

                  #893
                  re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                  I honestly can't wait for the Gold Cup to see what the other players can do now that we know we have a solid first 11 ready to roll.

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                  • cubsball899
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1744

                    #894
                    re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                    every set piece Zusi took last night was gold. maybe Dempsey will let him have one close enough for a shot on goal soon

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                    • VTPack919
                      We Go Again
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9708

                      #895
                      re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                      Originally posted by cubsball899
                      every set piece Zusi took last night was gold. maybe Dempsey will let him have one close enough for a shot on goal soon
                      Would love to see it. I was raving about his set pieces the entire game to my brother.
                      YNWA

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                      • msuduo
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 619

                        #896
                        The thing with Jozy was it wasn't just his playing with USMNT, it was his club play as well.

                        Duece put up numbers with Fulham and Tot. So yes, people were willing to overlook some lazy play at times with the USMNT.

                        Now, Jozy has had one big year with his club team and it's carried over. He needs another big year heading into Rio

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                        • msuduo
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 619

                          #897
                          Originally posted by jb12780
                          Besler/Gonzalez looked real good last night as well.

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                          Besler did. Gonzo had a rough time but held it together well enough. They just need to keep playing together. I wish they were called in for the Gold Cup.

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                          • alphaguy5
                            Rookie
                            • May 2011
                            • 105

                            #898
                            re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                            Originally posted by msuduo
                            Besler did. Gonzo had a rough time but held it together well enough. They just need to keep playing together. I wish they were called in for the Gold Cup.
                            I saw somewhere that they are both on the preliminary roster, so hopefully they will stay on the final roster.
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                            • jt45
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 5074

                              #899
                              re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                              Not sure if this ever got posted, but here's the 35-man provisional GC roster

                              GOALKEEPERS- Bill Hamid, Sean Johnson, Nick Rimando, Tally Hall

                              DEFENDERS- Carlos Bocanegra, Oguchi Onyewu, Omar Gonzalez, Matt Besler, Clarence Goodson, Edgar Castillo, DaMarcus Beasley, Michael Parkhurst, Corey Ashe, Tony Beltran, Michael Orozco

                              MIDFIELDERS- Kyle Beckerman, Graham Zusi, Brek Shea, Joe Corona, Stuart Holden, Brad Davis, Alejandro Bedoya, Mikkel Diskerud, Brad Evans, Josh Gatt, Benny Feilhaber, Eddie Johnson, Jose Torres

                              FORWARDS- Will Bruin, Herculez Gomez, Landon Donovan, Alan Gordon, Jack McInerney, Chris Wondolowski, Bobby Wood

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                              • VTPack919
                                We Go Again
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 9708

                                #900
                                re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                                Originally posted by jt45
                                Not sure if this ever got posted, but here's the 35-man provisional GC roster

                                GOALKEEPERS- Bill Hamid, Sean Johnson, Nick Rimando, Tally Hall

                                DEFENDERS- Carlos Bocanegra, Oguchi Onyewu, Omar Gonzalez, Matt Besler, Clarence Goodson, Edgar Castillo, DaMarcus Beasley, Michael Parkhurst, Corey Ashe, Tony Beltran, Michael Orozco

                                MIDFIELDERS- Kyle Beckerman, Graham Zusi, Brek Shea, Joe Corona, Stuart Holden, Brad Davis, Alejandro Bedoya, Mikkel Diskerud, Brad Evans, Josh Gatt, Benny Feilhaber, Eddie Johnson, Jose Torres

                                FORWARDS- Will Bruin, Herculez Gomez, Landon Donovan, Alan Gordon, Jack McInerney, Chris Wondolowski, Bobby Wood
                                Can't wait. This my be Lando's road back?
                                YNWA

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