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  • fugazi
    MVP
    • Apr 2003
    • 3749

    #2626
    re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

    Originally posted by Thrash13
    He's literally the main target of opponents now, and it's been apparent the last handful of matches. He'll be fine though, no reason to call him out. He's been great for us, and if Arena can find a guy to step up and take some of that heat, Pulisic will go off.

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    The USMNT does not get their hands dirty enough. Every time Pulisic gets hammered, there should be a reprisal
    Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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    • elprez98
      MVP
      • Dec 2003
      • 4237

      #2627
      Official USMNT Thread

      Originally posted by fugazi
      The USMNT does not get their hands dirty enough. Every time Pulisic gets hammered, there should be a reprisal


      In CONCACAF, that would be a recipe for a straight red for the US every time. That's going to happen to him regardless. Those are the growing pains of a player with his talent. I'd rather they did not.

      Now if we are up by 3 goals and someone wants to get stupid, that's another story.
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      • Brahvocado
        MVP
        • Oct 2012
        • 7480

        #2628
        re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

        Originally posted by elprez98
        In CONCACAF, that would be a recipe for a straight red for the US every time. That's going to happen to him regardless. Those are the growing pains of a player with his talent. I'd rather they did not.

        Now if we are up by 3 goals and someone wants to get stupid, that's another story.
        We could definitely be more physical though.

        We used to be an incredibly physical team that was very tough to beat, even if we weren't very good. Jurgen came in and put more of an emphasis on technique, which was needed, but these days it seems that we'd rather just keep playing than get in an opponent's face.

        Just need to find the right balance. I agree, we will be punished more harshly than other teams if we just start blatantly fouling.

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        • ImTellinTim
          YNWA
          • Sep 2006
          • 33028

          #2629
          re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

          I'd rather the refs start handing out yellow and reds when they're supposed to than have our players getting retaliation cards. Because you know that's what would happen.

          Case in point, Nagbe gets his leg totally stomped on in about the 4th minute against Costa Rica (in what world is that going for the ball, lol). By his Timbers teammate Guzman, no less. Could've easily been a red - wasn't even a yellow. Then not even 10 minutes later, he picks up a yellow for another trash foul where he deliberately kicks another player in the leg as if it was a ball. He should've been off in the 13th minute. That is what will stop this crap from happening - actually punishing players like they should.
          Last edited by ImTellinTim; 09-12-2017, 01:12 PM.

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          • dubcity
            Hall Of Fame
            • May 2012
            • 17874

            #2630
            re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

            I hear you guys, but I am just not on board with the idea that the refs are somehow treating the US unfairly compared to other countries. I hear it implied (if not directly stated) in this thread over and over every match every year. Every team (club or country) has calls go against them. Thinking that one team is being singled out is a point of view I can't take seriously in 2017.

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            • ImTellinTim
              YNWA
              • Sep 2006
              • 33028

              #2631
              re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

              It's said over and over again because it happens over and over again with Central American teams. Has been this way forever, and nothing is ever done.

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              • dubcity
                Hall Of Fame
                • May 2012
                • 17874

                #2632
                re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                It's said over and over again because it happens over and over again with Central American teams. Has been this way forever, and nothing is ever done.
                So the refereeing is cool when they play Mexico, Puerto Rico, TnT and Jamaica? I hear complaints in seemingly every CONCACAF match involving the US.

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                • ImTellinTim
                  YNWA
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 33028

                  #2633
                  re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                  Those teams do considerably less kicking of players than the CA teams.

                  But there's also the issue that CONCACAF referees are garbage overall, and yes the US does benefit from their poor decisions sometimes. Complaints about the referees aren't always about "THEY'RE SCREWING THE US". They're also about "I'd like to watch a properly officiated match" which is a total rarity in a CONCACAF match.

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                  • Thrash13
                    MVP
                    • May 2005
                    • 1133

                    #2634
                    re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                    Acosta in the 2nd half is how more of our players should go about things. He probably narrowly avoided a first yellow several times before finally getting booked, but he definitely played with a chip on his shoulder. He wasn't over the top, but he stood his ground and dished a little physicality out in the process. I loved it, and as an FC Dallas fan, I was even more proud.

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                    • Brahvocado
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 7480

                      #2635
                      re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                      Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                      Those teams do considerably less kicking of players than the CA teams.

                      But there's also the issue that CONCACAF referees are garbage overall, and yes the US does benefit from their poor decisions sometimes. Complaints about the referees aren't always about "THEY'RE SCREWING THE US". They're also about "I'd like to watch a properly officiated match" which is a total rarity in a CONCACAF match.
                      Even Mexico gets fouled into oblivion and has BS calls go against them in away games in CONCACAF.

                      I think refs are legitimately afraid to make calls against home teams, which is obviously a big problem.

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                      • fugazi
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 3749

                        #2636
                        re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                        Originally posted by dubcity
                        Thinking that one team is being singled out is a point of view I can't take seriously in 2017.
                        I don't know about singled out, but I've watched USMNT for 30 years...there is definitely noticeable, obvious asymmetry in what is acceptable conduct on the pitch.

                        That being said, I've never seen dirtier teams than some of the sides I've seen from Central America...though I remember a match against Bolivia years ago that was pretty bad....so maybe it's a problem with the futbol culture?
                        Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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                        • ImTellinTim
                          YNWA
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 33028

                          #2637
                          re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                          This is a rather interesting read as we wait for the big match.

                          Brian Sciaretta explored the past three decades of player development and noticed few players born in the early 1990s have panned out—a situation that continues to haunt the men's national team.


                          I'm feeling pretaaay pretaaaay pretaaaaaaay good about tonight's game. 4-1 good guys.

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                          • jasontoddwhitt
                            MVP
                            • May 2003
                            • 8095

                            #2638
                            re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                            What a beautiful goal by Pulisic! Keep playing him in the middle Bruce.


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                            • ImTellinTim
                              YNWA
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 33028

                              #2639
                              re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                              And there's some CONCACAF reffing. Besler's bleeding and there's no card to be found.

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                              • jasontoddwhitt
                                MVP
                                • May 2003
                                • 8095

                                #2640
                                re: Official USMNT/USWNT Thread

                                Pulisic pulling all the strings. That was a silky smooth pass to Altidore.

                                Our defense is still scaring me to death.


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