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  • Brahvocado
    MVP
    • Oct 2012
    • 7480

    #6031
    Re: The Transfer Thread

    Originally posted by ImTellinTim
    The thing I don't understand is what's their end game? Do they think this is going to snowball into their league becoming a player in the worldwide TV market? Do they think they're going to recoup this insane initial investment?
    Basically, yes they do.

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    • Suntan Superman
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      • Feb 2009
      • 7135

      #6032
      Re: The Transfer Thread

      Originally posted by ImTellinTim
      This has already happened and it didn't work. It was called 1970s NASL.
      I agree in principle, but overall, the world is much different than it was in the 1970s, especially in the entertainment world.
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      • KG
        Welcome Back
        • Sep 2005
        • 17583

        #6033
        Re: The Transfer Thread

        I think it's the continuation of China's effort to popularize soccer within and get the most out of a country with over a billion people. It started when the big clubs started making exhibition trips out there and has hastily moved towards what it is today.

        Where was this when we had El Nino warming the bench??????
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        • Thrash13
          MVP
          • May 2005
          • 1133

          #6034
          Re: The Transfer Thread

          Originally posted by Brahvocado
          We buy lots of players and don't play most of them.

          If you meant the bit about the lower level teams: they buy tons of relatively talented players from all over the world, not just Europe. The difference between that and what Chelsea does though, is that these players bought by lower level teams are immediately thrown into usually a crappy club situation in a very unforgiving and mildly violent league. A lot of these players actually come from better teams, or at the very least better situations (say, a top team from a slightly lower level league somewhere else in Europe to a garbage team like West Brom).

          Players are quickly labeled flops in the Prem if they don't perform, despite the fact that coaching in general in England is pretty well behind the rest of Europe, and these players are almost never utilized properly. Some young and promising player gets bought by a team desperate to avoid relegation, gets played out of position every other game and then gets injured by some orc from Stoke. Happens all the time.

          These lower level teams aren't buying players with any kind of plan, they just have a ton of money and need players that can hopefully save them from relegation or mediocrity. Players like Altidore, Niasse, etc. go from lighting it up to everyone hating them in an instant, it's pretty demoralizing and hard to recover from.

          Look how much money teams like Sunderland and Crystal Palace spend on all kinds of players every season. Sunderland outspends half of Europe and still looks absolutely awful every single season. West Ham nearly poached Milan's starting striker despite being objectively inferior to Milan in literally every conceivable capacity, simply because they have so much money.
          Great explanation! As an outsider to the situation, I'm a massive Premier League fan. I enjoy watching it more than any other, although I make a really large effort to help MLS exposure as well.

          That being said, I'm guessing I'm the American fan the Premier League is targeting. Haha. I love the glitz and glamour the Premier League brings with the great TV deal and crazy money spending on big-name players. And for the most part, I DVR and watch games featuring the top 8 or so teams in the table. I'm trying to be better about that, but I'm still not quite there yet mostly because of time constraints.

          Great job explaining that though!

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          • Krebstar
            is looking at stats.
            • May 2005
            • 12904

            #6035
            Re: The Transfer Thread

            Okay, where does Payet end up? Does he go somewhere in January? Stays in England? Back to France?

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            • Leon
              An Old Trafford
              • Mar 2003
              • 4981

              #6036
              Re: The Transfer Thread

              If he stays in England, I'm pretty sure he'll have enough offers -- like a certain north London club -- since he's proven his ability in the Prem. He could probably excel a bit more in France though.
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              • Thrash13
                MVP
                • May 2005
                • 1133

                #6037
                Re: The Transfer Thread

                Originally posted by Krebstar
                Okay, where does Payet end up? Does he go somewhere in January? Stays in England? Back to France?
                I think PSG makes the most sense for all involved, but there will be plenty of suitors either way.

                I hate when players threaten not to play because they aren't happy for whatever reason. That being said, West Ham will be pretty senseless to let him sit on the bench and collect a ton of money in the process. Take the transfer money and move on.

                Edit: Morgan Schneiderlin signed a deal through 2021 with Everton. Seems like a pretty solid under the radar move.
                Last edited by Thrash13; 01-12-2017, 02:36 PM.

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                • Brahvocado
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 7480

                  #6038
                  Re: The Transfer Thread

                  Originally posted by Leon
                  If he stays in England, I'm pretty sure he'll have enough offers -- like a certain north London club -- since he's proven his ability in the Prem. He could probably excel a bit more in France though.
                  Wenger spending £25m+ on a 30 year old? I mean, I know he's French but still.

                  Legitimately think he could go back to Marseille. He still seems pretty connected to that club, and with reasonable owners (which they didn't have when they sold him), Marseille is a much better club than West Ham.

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                  • Suntan Superman
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7135

                    #6039
                    Re: The Transfer Thread

                    I think he goes back to Marseille. A lot of Payet's value comes from his set pieces, and a lot of the teams that would be looking at him don't need better set piece takers.
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                    • Krebstar
                      is looking at stats.
                      • May 2005
                      • 12904

                      #6040
                      Re: The Transfer Thread

                      Originally posted by Brahvocado
                      Wenger spending £25m+ on a 30 year old? I mean, I know he's French but still.
                      Yeah, we signed an unheard of fullback who recently was laid off from a factory—we're done for January.

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                      • ImTellinTim
                        YNWA
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 33028

                        #6041
                        Re: The Transfer Thread

                        Originally posted by Krebstar
                        Yeah, we signed an unheard of fullback who recently was laid off from a factory—we're done for January.
                        Not to mention new signing, Danny Welbeck Returning From Injury

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                        • jb12780
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 10665

                          #6042
                          Re: The Transfer Thread

                          Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                          Not to mention new signing, Danny Welbeck Returning From Injury
                          He played on Saturday. It was great.

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                          • LionsFanNJ
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 9464

                            #6043
                            Re: The Transfer Thread

                            Milan talking about Deulofeu on Loan from Everton. I like it as Niang is so damn inconsistent all the time on the wing and at least would give something worthwhile off the bench. Ball is in Evertons court to ok the move. Not sure if they will though

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                            • 3304Life
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 3002

                              #6044
                              Re: The Transfer Thread

                              I think Payet isn't really proven in this league. He had a really good first season but he has been average at best this year. A lot of players make a great first impression and fade and I think he's one of them, especially at his age. I think if he leaves West Ham it makes sense for him to go back to France.

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                              • jb12780
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 10665

                                #6045
                                Re: The Transfer Thread

                                L'Equipe is reporting Payet to Marseille.

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