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Old 10-14-2019, 08:58 PM   #801
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Hmmm this is interesting because if it scouts every player to it's true value we may want to implement some house rules. I think knowing everyone's real draft spot is definitely an issue that takes away alot of the value in these classes and their relaism.
The scouting to uncover what round a player should be drafted being 100% accurate is an issue if true.

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It definitely could be an issue and I totally understand why. The only real "house rule" I think would be to just leave the bug in and by that I mean don't edit any player's number to fix it. Cause that's what's causing the "true talent" to actually show.

The only issue with this would be if the CPU follows the same rules as you do with the draft class. By that I mean if you just load the class in and when/if they "scout" players do they see them as we do? I don't think that's possible to find out.

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Old 10-14-2019, 09:25 PM   #802
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It definitely could be an issue and I totally understand why. The only real "house rule" I think would be to just leave the bug in and by that I mean don't edit any player's number to fix it. Cause that's what's causing the "true talent" to actually show.

The only issue with this would be if the CPU follows the same rules as you do with the draft class. By that I mean if you just load the class in and when/if they "scout" players do they see them as we do? I don't think that's possible to find out.

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Do y’all think it would be best to not utilize the scouting system in Madden? To only use the scouting reports Sapp provides ?

Also, does anyone know if the CPU drafts busts? If not I might have to draft for every team and try to randomize it somehow.


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Old 10-14-2019, 09:41 PM   #803
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I find it best to keep that glitch, it actually is a good think in my opinion w sapps scouting reports.

Some of you guys who like to game the system will be pissed, but wait till you draft a bust with a top 10 pick..... its crushing but oddly satisfying because of the realism
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I'm thinking about keeping the bug for that reason. Especially since I didn't get to really experience them properly last year. With my YT series I think it's going to add life to the franchise alongside the info in the scouting report I can throw in. But I'm still undecided.

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Do y’all think it would be best to not utilize the scouting system in Madden? To only use the scouting reports Sapp provides ?

Also, does anyone know if the CPU drafts busts? If not I might have to draft for every team and try to randomize it somehow.


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I can say with 100% certainty the AI computer does draft busts I've tested this many times... Sometimes as high as number one overall

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After some quick testing, I would not "fix" the "every prospect scouts as 1st rounder" bug. As this is better than being able to "cheat scout" every prospect to their true spot. It's unfortunate we have to resort to this, but it's just not realistic to be 100% accurate in scouting. It's the lesser of two evils to maintain the integrity of the project. I'm sure Sapp will chime in on this, but it's something him and I discussed a few days ago. There doesn't seem to be a solution at this point.

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I can say with 100% certainty the AI computer does draft busts I've tested this many times... Sometimes as high as number one overall

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The first and second overall picks in the draft I just did we’re huge busts, so yeah it does happen


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After some quick testing, I would not "fix" the "every prospect scouts as 1st rounder" bug. As this is better than being able to "cheat scout" every prospect to their true spot. It's unfortunate we have to resort to this, but it's just not realistic to be 100% accurate in scouting. It's the lesser of two evils to maintain the integrity of the project. I'm sure Sapp will chime in on this, but it's something him and I discussed a few days ago. There doesn't seem to be a solution at this point.

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To be honest, the "glitch" is probably the best thing that ever happened to these classes in my opinion. I have the big board set up for busts to get drafted early on in an effort to emulate real life. The way I have always thought is that if we were really able to see true talent, JaMarcus Russell would have never got drafted in the first round.... or Ryan Leaf, Trent Richardson, Paxton Lynch, Matt Leinart, Jake Locker, Derrick Harvey, Vernon Gholston, Jason Smith. I feel like busts are part of the game and bad drafting is what makes badly run teams stay bad and good teams remain good.

As far as how I suggest using the draft classes. I feel that the Madden scouting system should still be used (with the glitch that doesn't show true value) along with the combine rankings and our scouting report. Although you won't get the true player value with the glitch in place, the three top grades in addition to those combine results and some scouting report info should still benefit you and increase the likelihood that you draft a worthy player. The beauty of it is that the risk is still there that you may land a bust. As wodi said, there's a weird satisfaction that comes with drafting a bust because you know that when you do finally get around to making that right pick, it really means something.

By the way, let's take the party to the official draft class thread for this year guys... NEW DRAFT CLASS THREAD
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