Mike Lowe Madden 17 Sliders

[prey2god]

Mike, I gotta say, I plugged your sliders in like always, and i'm getting great gameplay and stats. My biggest concern every year are tackle stats and how it should be relevant to positions like MLB and such. Well...

In my Bears Franchise, Trevathan, Jalen Smith, McPhee are absolute beasts! Linebackers are doing just that. Backing the line and running to get those tackles. Each game, i've had that trio rack up solo tackle stats like nobody's business. Jalen Smith had about 15 tackles in one game. I've been waiting years to see this in Madden. Thanks for posting these and please try not to make drastic changes. These are great especially if you play in Broadcast mode.

[Mike Lowe]

Quote: Originally Posted by prey2god

Mike, I gotta say, I plugged your sliders in like always, and i'm getting great gameplay and stats. My biggest concern every year are tackle stats and how it should be relevant to positions like MLB and such. Well... In my Bears Franchise, Trevathan, Jalen Smith, McPhee are absolute beasts! Linebackers are doing just that. Backing the line and running to get those tackles. Each game, i've had that trio rack up solo tackle stats like nobody's business. Jalen Smith had about 15 tackles in one game. I've been waiting years to see this in Madden. Thanks for posting these and please try not to make drastic changes. These are great especially if you play in Broadcast mode.

Thanks so much, p2g.

[Xelanath]

I've been using various sliders on this forum for a while now, but I thought it was about time I started to pitch in. Here are the boxscores from my first two games on 17. I play Coach Mode almost exclusively (minus the occasional disruption on defence).

For the first game (as the Raiders against the Saints), please switch around the team stats:

Oakland Raiders at New Orleans Saints
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Oakland Raiders (1-0)	0	17	10	3	30
New Orleans Saints (0-1)	3	3	7	0	13

Team Stats Comparison
	OAK	NOR
Total Offense	511	261
Rushing Yards	244	78
Passing Yards	267	183
First Downs	28	17
Punt Return Yards	19	0
Kick Return Yards	80	107
Total Yards	610	368
Turnovers	3	4
3rd Down Converstion	12	5
4th Down Conversion	2	0
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2/2	1/0
Penalties	10	53
Posession Time	34:13	25:47

Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Brees 28/41 211 0 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M. Ingram 11 91 8.4 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J. Hill 9 56 6.2 B. Hartline 6 48 8.0 M. Thomas 4 37 9.3 V. Brown 4 38 9.5 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD TEAM 1 3 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG C. Barth 2/2 1/1 7 55 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 T. Morstead 3 168 56.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD W. Snead 3 80 26.7 0 C. Spiller 1 27 27.0 0

New Orleans Saints PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Carr 29/39 275 2 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD L. Murray 42 213 5.1 1 T. Jones 1 28 28.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M. Reece 7 64 9.1 0 A. Holmes 7 66 9.4 0 A. Cooper 5 52 10.7 0 M. Crabtree 4 43 10.8 2 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD TEAM 4 3 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Janikowski 3/3 3/3 12 44 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. King 0 0 0 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Jones 3 80 26.7 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Jones 1 19 19.0 0

Atlanta Falcons at Oakland Raiders
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Atlanta Falcons (0-2)	3	7	7	6	23
Oakland Raiders (2-0)	14	14	0	0	28

Team Stats Comparison
	ATL	OAK
Total Offense	308	421
Rushing Yards	89	169
Passing Yards	219	252
First Downs	15	15
Punt Return Yards	19	29
Kick Return Yards	94	119
Total Yards	421	569
Turnovers	1	3
3rd Down Converstion	3-14	4-12
4th Down Conversion	0-1	0-2
2-Point Conversion	0-1	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2/0	2/0
Penalties	2-10	0-0
Posession Time	36:05	23:55

Atlanta Falcons PASSING C/A YDS TD INT M. Ryan 28/40 269 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD D. Freeman 24 86 3.5 1 T. Coleman 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D. Freeman 5 54 10.8 0 J. Jones 4 72 18.0 0 J. Tamme 4 31 7.7 0 S. Chandler 4 23 5.7 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD TEAM 0 0 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG M. Bryant 1/2 2/2 5 47 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. Bosher 8 457 57.1 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD E. Weems 3 71 23.6 0 D. Hester 1 23 23.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Hester 2 19 9.5 0

Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Carr 24/33 252 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Jones 29 158 5.4 1 L. Murray 2 13 6.5 0 D. Carr 2 -2 -1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M. Reece 10 71 7.1 0 A. Holmes 6 78 13.0 0 A. Cooper 4 43 10.7 0 M. Crabtree 1 17 17.0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD TEAM 5 0 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Janikowski 0/0 4/4 4 0 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. King 5 268 53.6 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Carrie 2 47 23.5 0 T. Jones 2 47 23.6 0 A. Cooper 1 25 25.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Carrie 1 18 18.0 0 T. Jones 1 11 11.0 0

As you can see, my running game has probably had too much success, but I do love my running game... These were both based on your most recent update. Thanks for putting in all this work, it really makes my play time enjoyable.

[AngelofDeath]

Mike when you sim the season what are you doing to offset the fact that teams #1 wr's are lining up on the left side of the field. Is everyone just changing their team to have there best cb on the left side? I do this in game I'm wondering if moving revis to 2nd CB will hurt his confidence or his progression.


Also I have noticed that WR swap doesn't work in the sub formations this is getting very frustrating.

[Mike Lowe]

Quote: Originally Posted by AngelofDeath

Mike when you sim the season what are you doing to offset the fact that teams #1 wr's are lining up on the left side of the field. Is everyone just changing their team to have there best cb on the left side? I do this in game I'm wondering if moving revis to 2nd CB will hurt his confidence or his progression. Also I have noticed that WR swap doesn't work in the sub formations this is getting very frustrating.

I have not since this is likely being patched in the first (second) patch. By all means, it won't hurt anything, but to be fair, I'd also swap your CBs too

[Mike Lowe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Xelanath

I've been using various sliders on this forum for a while now, but I thought it was about time I started to pitch in. Here are the boxscores from my first two games on 17. I play Coach Mode almost exclusively (minus the occasional disruption on defence). For the first game (as the Raiders against the Saints), please switch around the team stats: Oakland Raiders at New Orleans Saints Jan 1, 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE Oakland Raiders (1-0) 0 17 10 3 30 New Orleans Saints (0-1) 3 3 7 0 13 Team Stats Comparison OAK NOR Total Offense 511 261 Rushing Yards 244 78 Passing Yards 267 183 First Downs 28 17 Punt Return Yards 19 0 Kick Return Yards 80 107 Total Yards 610 368 Turnovers 3 4 3rd Down Converstion 12 5 4th Down Conversion 2 0 2-Point Conversion 0 0 Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 2/2 1/0 Penalties 10 53 Posession Time 34:13 25:47 Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Brees 28/41 211 0 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M. Ingram 11 91 8.4 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J. Hill 9 56 6.2 B. Hartline 6 48 8.0 M. Thomas 4 37 9.3 V. Brown 4 38 9.5 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD TEAM 1 3 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG C. Barth 2/2 1/1 7 55 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 T. Morstead 3 168 56.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD W. Snead 3 80 26.7 0 C. Spiller 1 27 27.0 0 New Orleans Saints PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Carr 29/39 275 2 3 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD L. Murray 42 213 5.1 1 T. Jones 1 28 28.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M. Reece 7 64 9.1 0 A. Holmes 7 66 9.4 0 A. Cooper 5 52 10.7 0 M. Crabtree 4 43 10.8 2 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD TEAM 4 3 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Janikowski 3/3 3/3 12 44 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. King 0 0 0 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Jones 3 80 26.7 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Jones 1 19 19.0 0 Atlanta Falcons at Oakland Raiders Jan 1, 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE Atlanta Falcons (0-2) 3 7 7 6 23 Oakland Raiders (2-0) 14 14 0 0 28 Team Stats Comparison ATL OAK Total Offense 308 421 Rushing Yards 89 169 Passing Yards 219 252 First Downs 15 15 Punt Return Yards 19 29 Kick Return Yards 94 119 Total Yards 421 569 Turnovers 1 3 3rd Down Converstion 3-14 4-12 4th Down Conversion 0-1 0-2 2-Point Conversion 0-1 0-0 Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 2/0 2/0 Penalties 2-10 0-0 Posession Time 36:05 23:55 Atlanta Falcons PASSING C/A YDS TD INT M. Ryan 28/40 269 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD D. Freeman 24 86 3.5 1 T. Coleman 1 3 3.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D. Freeman 5 54 10.8 0 J. Jones 4 72 18.0 0 J. Tamme 4 31 7.7 0 S. Chandler 4 23 5.7 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD TEAM 0 0 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG M. Bryant 1/2 2/2 5 47 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. Bosher 8 457 57.1 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD E. Weems 3 71 23.6 0 D. Hester 1 23 23.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Hester 2 19 9.5 0 Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Carr 24/33 252 2 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD T. Jones 29 158 5.4 1 L. Murray 2 13 6.5 0 D. Carr 2 -2 -1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD M. Reece 10 71 7.1 0 A. Holmes 6 78 13.0 0 A. Cooper 4 43 10.7 0 M. Crabtree 1 17 17.0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD TEAM 5 0 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Janikowski 0/0 4/4 4 0 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. King 5 268 53.6 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Carrie 2 47 23.5 0 T. Jones 2 47 23.6 0 A. Cooper 1 25 25.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD T. Carrie 1 18 18.0 0 T. Jones 1 11 11.0 0 As you can see, my running game has probably had too much success, but I do love my running game... These were both based on your most recent update. Thanks for putting in all this work, it really makes my play time enjoyable.

Thanks so much for this. It's a tough balance limiting the TFL and still having a challenging run game. TFL is the biggest difference I'm seeing during PTM games and fully played games. Of course, more simmed plays are going to equal less TFL (and assisted tackles), so it's not surprising.

[DXFan4Life2]

Hey, so I just completed my first game with these sliders, and I have to say, that was the most balanced and realistic felt game I have played in this years game. In the past, I would have problems with the CPU force feeding 1 RB the ball 25+ times a game & running it down my throat. This actually felt fair here. I was the Cowboys in this game. I read through this thread and made changes before playing a game. Was worth it! Thanks for these sliders.

Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Washington Redskins ()	0	0	14	3	17
Dallas Cowboys ()	7	7	7	3	24

Team Stats Comparison
	WAS	DAL
Total Offense	341	357
Rushing Yards	127	181
Passing Yards	214	176
First Downs	15	19
Punt Return Yards	19	16
Kick Return Yards	78	72
Total Yards	438	445
Turnovers	3	0
3rd Down Converstion	3-10	7-15
4th Down Conversion	0-0	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2-2 (100%)	2-2 (100%)
Penalties	6-29	5-35
Posession Time	27:02	32:58

Washington Redskins PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Kirk Cousins 23/29 230 0 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Charles Sims III 19 94 4.9 0 Chris Thompson 4 38 9.5 0 Kirk Cousins 1 -5 -5.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Charles Sims III 7 62 8.8 0 Pierre Garcon 6 55 9.1 0 DeSean Jackson 5 51 10.2 0 Ryan Grant 3 25 8.3 0 Niles Paul 1 24 24.0 0 Jordan Reed 1 13 13.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Trent Williams 0 1 Morgan Moses 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Greg Toler 4 0 0 0 DeAngelo Hall 4 0 0 0 Ryan Kerrigan 3 0 0 0 Chris Baker 3 0 0 0 Trent Williams 2 0 0 0 Junior Galette 2 1 0 0 Duke Inehacho 2 0 0 0 Bashaud Breeland 1 0 0 0 Ricky Jean Francois 1 0 0 0 Kedric Golston 1 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Dustin Hopkin 1/2 2/2 5 35 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Tress Way 5 211 42.2 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD DeSean Jackson 2 54 27.0 0 Chris Thompson 1 24 24.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD DeSean Jackson 3 19 6.3 0

Dallas Cowboys PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Dak Prescott 16/35 183 1 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Ezekiel Elliott 20 104 5.2 1 Dak Prescott 9 57 6.3 0 Rod Smith 3 16 5.3 0 Alfred Morris 1 4 4.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jason Witten 4 38 9.5 0 Ezekiel Elliott 4 41 10.2 0 Dez Bryant 2 31 15.5 0 Terrance Williams 2 33 16.5 1 Rod Smith 2 28 14.0 0 Cole Beasley 1 8 8.0 0 Brice Butler 1 4 4.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK Doug Free 1 0 Tyron Smith 1 1 Zack Martin 1 0 Travis Frederick 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Barry Church 6 1 0 0 Orlando Scandrick 5 0 0 0 Rolando McClain 4 0 0 0 Brandon Carr 3 0 1 0 Morris Claiborne 3 0 1 1 Anthony Brown 2 0 0 0 Byron Jones 2 0 0 0 Sean Lee 2 0 0 0 Jaylon Smith 1 0 0 0 J.J. Wilcox 1 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Dan Bailey 1/2 3/3 6 28 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Chris Jones 6 290 48.3 3 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Lance Dunbar 3 72 24.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Cole Beasley 1 16 0 0

[Hunkerdown]

trying these out.

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