Something odd in my Connected Franchise.

[PacMan3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by ginix

Yeah, it's best to avoid offline CFM for now considering the sim is completely buggered. I had Cutler in free agency with 69 OVR at the beginning of year 3 and Drew Brees (70 OVR) became the backup for Colt McCoy (78 OVR).

See, I really don't have a problem with this. Not every 35+ QB is John Elway or Peyton Manning. I actually like the fact that in year 3 (based on what you just described), guys like Cutler and Brees have regressed to being ineffective. I guess you can blame that on regression implementation or stats, but to me, it's nice to see players not be dominant FOREVER in Madden until they retire. It forces your CFM to evolve, with younger guys taking over.

Now, if guys like Kaep and Wilson and Luck were regressing by year 3, and were backups, then you have a problem.

[Last Gunfighter]

Quote: Originally Posted by PacMan3000

See, I really don't have a problem with this. Not every 35+ QB is John Elway or Peyton Manning. I actually like the fact that in year 3 (based on what you just described), guys like Cutler and Brees have regressed to being ineffective. I guess you can blame that on regression implementation or stats, but to me, it's nice to see players not be dominant FOREVER in Madden until they retire. It forces your CFM to evolve, with younger guys taking over. Now, if guys like Kaep and Wilson and Luck were regressing by year 3, and were backups, then you have a problem.

And that's why there is a problem, because I have seen Luck regress and end up a FA who doesn't get signed in year 3. And I can see some regression from older QBs but for a guy like Brees to go from 90s to high 60s low 70s seems a bit far fetched to me.

[PacMan3000]

Hmmm...are you using the sim stats "fix" by changing schemes under 32 team control?

[Last Gunfighter]

Quote: Originally Posted by PacMan3000

Hmmm...are you using the sim stats "fix" by changing schemes under 32 team control?

No, and this is in an offline CFM.

[12]

Quote: Originally Posted by PacMan3000

Hmmm...are you using the sim stats "fix" by changing schemes under 32 team control?

How well does this really work?

[PacMan3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by Last Gunfighter

No, and this is in an offline CFM.

Oh, I see. Well that's your problem. It takes a bit more work of course, but if you go this route for offline, you will get much better results.

As to 12's question...I remember when I did ran a test sim to see if the sim stats and progression improved, the results were much better. Not perfect of course, but what sim engine is. But here are some results I had (for offline CFM):

Season 2 stats (keep in mind injuries are on):

RGII: 5499 yards, 42 TDs, 20 INT
Romo: 5121 yards, 32 TDs, 14 INT
Rodgers: 5060 yards, 28 TDs, 21 INT
Brees: 5034 yards, 47 TDs, 22 INT
Kaep: 4711 yards, 34 TDs, 11 INT
Dalton: 4657 yards, 35 TD, 21 INT
Alex Smith: 4561 yards, 30 TD, 21 INT
Peyton Manning: 4548 yards, 33 TD, 17 INT

By the start of season 3, I didn't see too many crazy QB changes (I'm controlling all 32 teams technically, but I'm allowing the CPU to do all the signing and releasing). I saw that Sam Bradford, rated 84, started for the Dolphins though. I'll admit that Cam Newton was cut and plays for the Jets (Brock Osweiller, at 84, is now the Panthers starter).

At the start of year 3, Tom Brady regressed to 75, but was still the starter over Garappolo (73).

HOWEVER...RGIII is a 99. Brees is a 92. Russell Wilson a 97. Dalton a 97. Kaep a 99. Luck a 96. Some guys, of course, did indeed regress--like Cutler (78) and EJ Manuel (79). Tannehill is an 87 and Mike Glennon is an 86. Matt Ryan a 84, while Nick Foles a 95.

And lastly, here are some stats at the end of season 3:

Rodgers: 5259 yards, 42 TD, 19 INT
Dalton: 5180 yards, 33 TD, 31 INT
Romo: 5158 yards, 32 TD, 19 INT
Kirk Cousins (Broncos after Manning retired): 4995 yards, 47 TD, 16 INT
Brees: 4898 yards, 36 TD, 27 INT
Bortles: 4797 yards, 36 TD, 27 INT
RGIII: 4745 yards, 37 TD, 14 INT
Ryan: 4657 yards, 19 TD, 27 INT
Rivers: 4602 yards, 20 TD, 32 INT
Wilson: 4523 yards, 36 TD, 20 INT
Cutler: 4335 yards, 29 TD, 20 INT
Brady: 3653 yards, 21 TD, 14 INT
Newton: 3459 yards, 24 TD, 21 INT

So, not perfect but pretty good for a custom fix. And I think it helps the regression and cuts around the league, too.

[Last Gunfighter]

Quote: Originally Posted by PacMan3000

Oh, I see. Well that's your problem. It takes a bit more work of course, but if you go this route for offline, you will get much better results. As to 12's question...I remember when I did ran a test sim to see if the sim stats and progression improved, the results were much better. Not perfect of course, but what sim engine is. But here are some results I had (for offline CFM): Season 2 stats (keep in mind injuries are on): RGII: 5499 yards, 42 TDs, 20 INT Romo: 5121 yards, 32 TDs, 14 INT Rodgers: 5060 yards, 28 TDs, 21 INT Brees: 5034 yards, 47 TDs, 22 INT Kaep: 4711 yards, 34 TDs, 11 INT Dalton: 4657 yards, 35 TD, 21 INT Alex Smith: 4561 yards, 30 TD, 21 INT Peyton Manning: 4548 yards, 33 TD, 17 INT By the start of season 3, I didn't see too many crazy QB changes (I'm controlling all 32 teams technically, but I'm allowing the CPU to do all the signing and releasing). I saw that Sam Bradford, rated 84, started for the Dolphins though. I'll admit that Cam Newton was cut and plays for the Jets (Brock Osweiller, at 84, is now the Panthers starter). At the start of year 3, Tom Brady regressed to 75, but was still the starter over Garappolo (73). HOWEVER...RGIII is a 99. Brees is a 92. Russell Wilson a 97. Dalton a 97. Kaep a 99. Luck a 96. Some guys, of course, did indeed regress--like Cutler (78) and EJ Manuel (79). Tannehill is an 87 and Mike Glennon is an 86. Matt Ryan a 84, while Nick Foles a 95. And lastly, here are some stats at the end of season 3: Rodgers: 5259 yards, 42 TD, 19 INT Dalton: 5180 yards, 33 TD, 31 INT Romo: 5158 yards, 32 TD, 19 INT Kirk Cousins (Broncos after Manning retired): 4995 yards, 47 TD, 16 INT Brees: 4898 yards, 36 TD, 27 INT Bortles: 4797 yards, 36 TD, 27 INT RGIII: 4745 yards, 37 TD, 14 INT Ryan: 4657 yards, 19 TD, 27 INT Rivers: 4602 yards, 20 TD, 32 INT Wilson: 4523 yards, 36 TD, 20 INT Cutler: 4335 yards, 29 TD, 20 INT Brady: 3653 yards, 21 TD, 14 INT Newton: 3459 yards, 24 TD, 21 INT So, not perfect but pretty good for a custom fix. And I think it helps the regression and cuts around the league, too.

But what happens when the rookies come in? You can't edit them...

[Sheba2011]

Quote: Originally Posted by El Es Dee420

I am just now beginning Season 3 of my Connected Franchise with the Colts. I have noticed something very strange in my Connected Franchise. Some big name QBs overall rating has dropped drastically...Tom Brady, Tony Romo, Philip Rivers, and Drew Brees all have an OVR between 67-72. Has this happened for anyone else? I find it kind of odd since all of those teams made it to play playoffs in my franchise, and put up pretty solid numbers all year.

In 3 years Brady will be 40, Brees will be 39, Romo will be 37 and Rivers will be 35. That isn't completely unreasonable that QB's that old will have a huge drop off especially the way some of them are playing in real life this year.