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Old 06-23-2015, 04:52 PM   #81
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You and your friend draft together, then play.
from what i've read you play head to head against people online, not with friends
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Old 06-23-2015, 04:58 PM   #82
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from what i've read you play head to head against people online, not with friends
You play your friends online, like most online multiplayer games
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:07 PM   #83
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That could have been a fun CFM variant. Abbreviated seasons using the new draft mode. 4-6 games and/or or a tournament. Maybe some keeper rules, then redraft and go again.

For some reason I thought it was more than a 'play now' feature.
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That could have been a fun CFM variant. Abbreviated seasons using the new draft mode. 4-6 games and/or or a tournament. Maybe some keeper rules, then redraft and go again.

For some reason I thought it was more than a 'play now' feature.
AFAIK there's some really cool friend options with Draft Champs. Might be something like what you're talking here.
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:55 PM   #85
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So watching these videos looking for gang tackles since people were syaing they were in the game when i said i didn tsee any.

Watched the pats game and the browns game and those vids did have some instances of gang tackling, but from what i am seeing, they are canned animations and does not impact the play at all.

Still, i see defenders releasing before another defender hitting instead of holding on while the other cleans it up. I saw an instance in the pats game where the runner had a defender on him and another coming in to "clean" up and just rubbed off on him and fell to the ground like how it is now. It was like 8:20 in the video.

Doesnt seem the gang tackling impacts anything once the first defender touches the defender and the only way the 2nd defender impacts the play is if the 1st defender lets go creating a pin ball effect.

I've read people saying the gang tackling looks good and all that, but to me, correct if i am wrong or seeing something totally off, these animations are canned and doesnt look like it impacts the play at all.

I guess technically, they did get gang tackling in the game.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:10 PM   #86
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So watching these videos looking for gang tackles since people were syaing they were in the game when i said i didn tsee any.

Watched the pats game and the browns game and those vids did have some instances of gang tackling, but from what i am seeing, they are canned animations and does not impact the play at all.

Still, i see defenders releasing before another defender hitting instead of holding on while the other cleans it up. I saw an instance in the pats game where the runner had a defender on him and another coming in to "clean" up and just rubbed off on him and fell to the ground like how it is now. It was like 8:20 in the video.

Doesnt seem the gang tackling impacts anything once the first defender touches the defender and the only way the 2nd defender impacts the play is if the 1st defender lets go creating a pin ball effect.

I've read people saying the gang tackling looks good and all that, but to me, correct if i am wrong or seeing something totally off, these animations are canned and doesnt look like it impacts the play at all.

I guess technically, they did get gang tackling in the game.
True gang tackling is in the game, I think it was the chiefs giants video that showed a pretty good example at the beginning of the video. Like Shop and Madscientist, Sim, Smitty, Azure, and myself all said tonight on the GC radio show, watching these videos does not do the game justice and you won't see everything in these short Youtube clips, have to play hours to see things. I played 35 hours and was still seeing new stuff in the last hour I played.
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True gang tackling is in the game, I think it was the chiefs giants video that showed a pretty good example at the beginning of the video. Like Shop and Madscientist, Sim, Smitty, Azure, and myself all said tonight on the GC radio show, watching these videos does not do the game justice and you won't see everything in these short Youtube clips, have to play hours to see things. I played 35 hours and was still seeing new stuff in the last hour I played.
I will disagree here. True gang tackling is still only a work in progress. If you only refer to the 1st/2nd defender, fine. But when you involve a 3rd/4th defender/tackler, gang tackling is unfortunately notpresent.

It's still noticeably a cosmetic band aid effect. It definitely looks aesthetically better than past Maddens', but if you closely examine when gang tackling happens involving 3 and 4 defenders, the 3rd and 4th defender doesn't make a "physics based" impact on the play.

It may visually look like there is some type of impact, but the band aid effect is present because the type of animation coded to play out by the 3rd and 4th defender is to dive at the feets/calves of pile (wrapped up 1st/2nd tackler and ball carrier). However, there is no physical physics based impact on the pile when the 3rd/4th defender hits the pile.

@8:40 - 8:46 mark in the video below just a one example... 3rd/4th defender makes no physical physics based impact.


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@6:28 - 6:36 Loving the sequence here ...
where it appears each tackling defender has an impact on the running back. You can see the running back stumble just a little bit with each defender making contact. Need to see more of this. There is not enough of this.

However, there are still "gang" tackle that happens that are simply cosmetic only where the second and third defender doesn't truly make an impact that physically alters the ball carrier.

@8:40 - 8:46 mark. Example Hating the "cosmetic, no impact" sequence here
Falcons #55 and #26 goes after the ball carriers leg, and neither of them affects the ball carrier.


@6:33 mark
I even love the "pissed" off falcons throwing #25 patriots blocker away in disgust. However, what I don't like is the "warping" that happens (6:33 mark) where #25 warps into a blocking position.

Loving the close up camera angel shot of #25 getting up (6:38 - 6:42). Very fluid looking. Still would like to see the play selection screen not cover so much of the screen up.

Please slow down the audible signal by the quarterback. It's too lighting quick.

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Old 06-24-2015, 12:00 AM   #88
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I will disagree here. True gang tackling is still only a work in progress. If you only refer to the 1st/2nd defender, fine. But when you involve a 3rd/4th defender/tackler, gang tackling is unfortunately notpresent.

It's still noticeably a cosmetic band aid effect. It definitely looks aesthetically better than past Maddens', but if you closely examine when gang tackling happens involving 3 and 4 defenders, the 3rd and 4th defender doesn't make a "physics based" impact on the play.

It may visually look like there is some type of impact, but the band aid effect is present because the type of animation coded to play out by the 3rd and 4th defender is to dive at the feets/calves of pile (wrapped up 1st/2nd tackler and ball carrier). However, there is no physical physics based impact on the pile when the 3rd/4th defender hits the pile.

@8:40 - 8:46 mark in the video below just a one example... 3rd/4th defender makes no physical physics based impact.
Have you seen a play where the 5th and 6th defender is involved? You can't make a blanket statement about gang tackling based on these videos. I'm telling you that true gang tackling is in the game, I've seen it, several times and in many different ways. You have to play the game to see some of this stuff, the way gang tackling works is two fold, it's part animation and part organic, but there are things I promise you that you haven't seen in terms of gang tackling like I have.

Watch this Chiefs and Giants video, around 1:21,the first two defenders wrap up the ball carrier, the 3rd and 4th defenders help bring him down and one of them dives at him and he falls forward based on that impact.

http://youtu.be/bIarYCXlODQ

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