Cfm draft classes when starting new franchise?

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Created about 15 CFM's online and haven't seen this once.

[badluck22]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhillyPhanatic14

Created about 15 CFM's online and haven't seen this once.

Are you starting them from Week 1 with the play now live rosters?

[vstro]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhillyPhanatic14

Created about 15 CFM's online and haven't seen this once.

Where are you starting the cfm from? For me it's only with online cfm starting from the regular season with the "live roster"

[goalieump413]

Quote: Originally Posted by mlb61

The comments in this thread are rife with conjecture and misunderstanding. This post, however, takes the cake. Each new career in HC09 does not start with the same draft class each time (there are 4 "paths," four starting points); and the draft classes of the 4 paths were not randomized after the first year draft (some names were randomized but not most).

My apologies for not getting the technical accuracy you wanted. It's been a little while since I've played HC09. But the main point I was making is that HC09 had similar database limitations to what's been reported here, in that there was no player data generator that created fully randomized draft classes.

But enough of that...

This morning, I ran 5 offline CFM simulations and 2 online CFM simulations to check whether there were any signs of repetition in player names, positions, or combine grades. I began each of the 7 total simulations using a downloaded roster set from xAPATHYx13 (UPDATED18), started my CFM's from the beginning of the preaseason, and simmed up to the draft, Xbox1.

In each of the 5 offline, and 2 online CFM's I saw no evidence of a singular, hard coded, or identical player pool going into the draft. I recorded the top 5 QB's, top 3 HB's, and top 3 DT's and also checked for any name duplication anywhere in the player list among these 15 lists and found no duplication at all.

Same for the 2 online CFM's.

If I could get my screenshots from my uploading to OneDrive, I'd show you. I have to figure that out. Maybe it's an account thing.

I also want to add that I saw some good randomization in overall Combine Grades. As you drop from the #1 in that position down, the overall grade got more random, and the spread from best to worst grade grew in range. This seems to be generally in line with reality, as some performances in a real combine would surprise, while others would be as expected.

Overall, I'm comfortable with the state of Madden 18 draft class generation, although I did read that after the draft, the scale of OVR's runs too high. But again, this is where the player editor comes into play.

[badluck22]

Quote: Originally Posted by goalieump413

My apologies for not getting the technical accuracy you wanted. It's been a little while since I've played HC09. But the main point I was making is that HC09 had similar database limitations to what's been reported here, in that there was no player data generator that created fully randomized draft classes. But enough of that... This morning, I ran 5 offline CFM simulations and 2 online CFM simulations to check whether there were any signs of repetition in player names, positions, or combine grades. I began each of the 7 total simulations using a downloaded roster set from xAPATHYx13 (UPDATED18), started my CFM's from the beginning of the preaseason, and simmed up to the draft, Xbox1. In each of the 5 offline, and 2 online CFM's I saw no evidence of a singular, hard coded, or identical player pool going into the draft. I recorded the top 5 QB's, top 3 HB's, and top 3 DT's and also checked for any name duplication anywhere in the player list among these 15 lists and found no duplication at all. Same for the 2 online CFM's. If I could get my screenshots from my uploading to OneDrive, I'd show you. I have to figure that out. Maybe it's an account thing. I also want to add that I saw some good randomization in overall Combine Grades. As you drop from the #1 in that position down, the overall grade got more random, and the spread from best to worst grade grew in range. This seems to be generally in line with reality, as some performances in a real combine would surprise, while others would be as expected. Overall, I'm comfortable with the state of Madden 18 draft class generation, although I did read that after the draft, the scale of OVR's runs too high. But again, this is where the player editor comes into play.

From what i can tell it's only with online cfm starting from the regular season with live rosters.

[mlb61]

Quote: Originally Posted by badluck22

From what i can tell it's only with online cfm starting from the regular season with live rosters.

From what I call tell there was a little boy named Peter, and Peter took delight in calling "Wolf!"
Which never failed to get a rise out of his friend C. Little.

[mlb61]

Quote: Originally Posted by goalieump413

My apologies for not getting the technical accuracy you wanted. It's been a little while since I've played HC09. But the main point I was making is that HC09 had similar database limitations to what's been reported here, in that there was no player data generator that created fully randomized draft classes. But enough of that... This morning, I ran 5 offline CFM simulations and 2 online CFM simulations to check whether there were any signs of repetition in player names, positions, or combine grades. I began each of the 7 total simulations using a downloaded roster set from xAPATHYx13 (UPDATED18), started my CFM's from the beginning of the preaseason, and simmed up to the draft, Xbox1. In each of the 5 offline, and 2 online CFM's I saw no evidence of a singular, hard coded, or identical player pool going into the draft. I recorded the top 5 QB's, top 3 HB's, and top 3 DT's and also checked for any name duplication anywhere in the player list among these 15 lists and found no duplication at all. Same for the 2 online CFM's. If I could get my screenshots from my uploading to OneDrive, I'd show you. I have to figure that out. Maybe it's an account thing. I also want to add that I saw some good randomization in overall Combine Grades. As you drop from the #1 in that position down, the overall grade got more random, and the spread from best to worst grade grew in range. This seems to be generally in line with reality, as some performances in a real combine would surprise, while others would be as expected. Overall, I'm comfortable with the state of Madden 18 draft class generation, although I did read that after the draft, the scale of OVR's runs too high. But again, this is where the player editor comes into play.

HC09's "database limitations," as you call them, were a design feature, and a well-loved one; I don't recall a single person posting a complaint about them here in the HC09 forum.

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Quote: Originally Posted by vstro

Where are you starting the cfm from? For me it's only with online cfm starting from the regular season with the "live roster"

No I do the legit roster, or "custom" option as it's called this year, and I always start from the preseason.