Custom Madden NFL 11 Roster, Re-rating whole NFL ... Details inside! (Finished).

[ambizytl]

Quote: Originally Posted by at23steelers

CJ had one fantastic year and two good years, while Foster had 1 great year. No I wouldn't have CJ a 99 ovr. I would have him around 96 ovr. AP had 4 good years in a row, so I would give him a 98 ovr. CJ last year receiving yards: 50 catches 503 yards and 2 TD's Foster this year receiving yards: 66 catches 606 yards and 2 TD's However, Chris Johnson had a better season before that one with 1,200 yards. Not to mention the two years we are comparing, CJ had 400 more rushing yards. So, yeah that deserves a 96 overall in Madden. Now, with his scaled back ratings: a 94 ovr AP, 93 over CJ, and a 91 ovr Foster is what I would do.

This is Foster's second year--and how many rushing attempts did he have last year? 6 games, 54 attempts, 4.8 avg per attempt.

AP has been a fumbler, but this year he was good, just 1 fumble. Do you change his carry rating based on this year?

[ambizytl]

Oh, and don't forget that extra 400 yards for CJ came with around 30 more attempts than Foster had this year.

[at23steelers]

Quote: Originally Posted by ambizytl

This is Foster's second year--and how many rushing attempts did he have last year? 6 games, 54 attempts, 4.8 avg per attempt. AP has been a fumbler, but this year he was good, just 1 fumble. Do you change his carry rating based on this year?

Right, that's why I said Chris Johnson had a solid year before his breakout season, whereas we didn't see much of Foster. Don't forgot in Madden he was a 74 ovr, before this year, so being in the mid 90's is still remarkable. Like you said for AP, though not a great year, he still has the speed, power, and doesn't fumble as much. I am not saying Foster isn't worth a high overall, I just wouldn't have it over 94 overall, or in this rescaled version, a 91 overall.

[ambizytl]

The point I was making is you can't compare Foster's first season because they only used him in 6 games at the end of season--and he started just one game! I don't see that as a reason to reduce what he did this year. When playing with a roster that is up-to-date, the ratings should reflect what is current, in my opinion.

The question I asked is would you change AP's carry rating based on this year?

[at23steelers]

Quote: Originally Posted by ambizytl

The point I was making is you can't compare Foster's first season because they only used him in 6 games at the end of season--and he started just one game! I don't see that as a reason to reduce what he did this year. When playing with a roster that is up-to-date, the ratings should reflect what is current, in my opinion. The question I asked is would you change AP's carry rating based on this year?

Yes, but not by much. He would have to do the same thing next year to prove he has improved his carrying. Just because they are up-to-date, doesn't mean you don't use past history. Brandon Lloyd had the most WR yards this year. Why shouldn't he be a top 95+ player?

[ambizytl]

Quote: Originally Posted by at23steelers

Yes, but not by much. He would have to do the same thing next year to prove he has improved his carrying. Just because they are up-to-date, doesn't mean you don't use past history. Brandon Lloyd had the most WR yards this year. Why shouldn't he be a top 95+ player?

Why? Because Lloyd has been around for awhile, eight seasons, and that is no comparison to Foster. I am not sure how Lloyd should be rated,, not over 95, but somewhere in the low 90's perhaps.

Lloyd had 77 receptions--and Foster had 66.

[ambizytl]

This is getting out of hand when you start talking receiving yards. With regard to running backs, Foster led all running backs in total yardage. Of all the RBs who had 300 or more attempts, Foster led all of them with a 4.9 average.

Foster: most yardage and best avg at 300 or more attempts.

Lloyd: most receiving yards and just 77 receptions.

Foster: 66 receptions.

I think it's best if we just agree to disagree.

[Competitor]

Quote: Originally Posted by ambizytl

Why? Because Lloyd has been around for awhile, eight seasons, and that is no comparison to Foster. I am not sure how Lloyd should be rated,, not over 95, but somewhere in the low 90's perhaps. Lloyd had 77 receptions--and Foster had 66.

I dont even have Lloyd in the top ten I believe, he should though.

Quote: Originally Posted by at23steelers

Yes, but not by much. He would have to do the same thing next year to prove he has improved his carrying. Just because they are up-to-date, doesn't mean you don't use past history. Brandon Lloyd had the most WR yards this year. Why shouldn't he be a top 95+ player?

Quote: Originally Posted by ambizytl

The point I was making is you can't compare Foster's first season because they only used him in 6 games at the end of season--and he started just one game! I don't see that as a reason to reduce what he did this year. When playing with a roster that is up-to-date, the ratings should reflect what is current, in my opinion. The question I asked is would you change AP's carry rating based on this year?

That is why I have Foster that high, it is based on the 2010 season. I wouldnt have Tom Brady on top if I am counting this season and last years and maybe the last couple of seasons. I also will keep APs ratings where it is because it is fine where it is!

Quote: Originally Posted by at23steelers

Right, that's why I said Chris Johnson had a solid year before his breakout season, whereas we didn't see much of Foster. Don't forgot in Madden he was a 74 ovr, before this year, so being in the mid 90's is still remarkable. Like you said for AP, though not a great year, he still has the speed, power, and doesn't fumble as much. I am not saying Foster isn't worth a high overall, I just wouldn't have it over 94 overall, or in this rescaled version, a 91 overall.

You make a very good point I will think about that one.

Quote: Originally Posted by ambizytl

Oh, and don't forget that extra 400 yards for CJ came with around 30 more attempts than Foster had this year.

Quote: Originally Posted by ambizytl

This is Foster's second year--and how many rushing attempts did he have last year? 6 games, 54 attempts, 4.8 avg per attempt. AP has been a fumbler, but this year he was good, just 1 fumble. Do you change his carry rating based on this year?

I bumped it up a bit but not by to much because he is a well known fumbler.

Quote: Originally Posted by at23steelers

CJ had one fantastic year and two good years, while Foster had 1 great year. No I wouldn't have CJ a 99 ovr. I would have him around 96 ovr. AP had 4 good years in a row, so I would give him a 98 ovr. CJ last year receiving yards: 50 catches 503 yards and 2 TD's Foster this year receiving yards: 66 catches 606 yards and 2 TD's However, Chris Johnson had a better season before that one with 1,200 yards. Not to mention the two years we are comparing, CJ had 400 more rushing yards. So, yeah that deserves a 96 overall in Madden. Now, with his scaled back ratings: a 94 ovr AP, 93 ovr CJ, and a 91 ovr Foster is what I would do.

Look I understand what ever you are saying and you are making complete sense! But when I release the roster it is all up to you if you want to change it!

Quote: Originally Posted by ambizytl

You need to check your facts. Have you looked at receptions and receiving yardage? So what did Chris Johnson do this year? Are you going to reduce the ratings for him? And what about Adrian Peterson? The point is CJ had one great year. That's it, one great year and he's 99 OVR. Well, Foster just had a great year, rushing and receiving--otherwise known as a complete RB.

Quote: Originally Posted by at23steelers

If you are talking about his 2,000 yard season, then that's not even a fair comparison, because he is ahead of Foster in almost every category.

If you are going to keep saying that Foster shouldn't have the best OVR as of running backs then that is just complete BOGUS! because you keep making a case for Johnson but he had one amazing year and a good follow up but you are not really mentioning the fact that CJ was a 99 OVR after that season and so why is it a problem that Foster had the best RB season this year and he cant be the top rated back? You aren't making much sense man.

Quote: Originally Posted by ambizytl

It's not just rushing! Foster was second in RBs for receptions with 66--and he led all RBs in receiving yardage with 604! How was Chris Johnson rated after his first big season?

I couldn't agree with you more


Both of you can change the roster to your liking when I release the roster .... my god