I have finally learned the game and I don't believe there is any issues......

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by JBH3

Understandable...But no fatigue? Like I said IMO if I change the ratings I'm cheating...If I turn off fatigue it is just breaking another part of the game to fix a different issue.

I look at it like this.

If your having issues with 6 or more to's per game, every game, you have a few choices till the patch arrives.

A) Leave everything as is before patch arrives
B) Turn off fatigue and just play now until the patch arrives. Don't go into franchise.

I don't have 6 to's every single game, so, it's something I can deal with, others seem to be having 6 TO's every single game they play.

[fantasysportsguy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

You just confirmed you did not, in fact, understand what I was saying. Re-read my post and tell me where I said the turnovers were "sim like". Get it right. LOL....you're one to talk about smart *** replies. The answer is: No, I've never had a game with more than 6 turnovers. I play all of my games with 10 minute quarters and the most turnovers I've ever had is 5 (a couple of times). Seeing as how the 2006 averages were: INTs per game: 2.71 Forced fumbles: 3.94 Fumbles recovered by opposing team: 1.96 I'd say that 5 (even 6) isn't too far off the average of 4.67 turnovers per game. What I find hilarious is that I simply proposed an alternate view on the "supposed" problem and you (in your usual trolling fashion) decide to jump on it like I posted it as gospel.

Squint, why the hostility? You were talking about THIS Madden being more sim-like, with regards to the stick and fatigue, and I pointed out the most glaring example of how it isnt. Regardless of use of the stick, or fatigue, the incredible amount of turnovers we're having is unrealistic, in my opinion. You are free to disagree.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

LOL....you're one to talk about smart *** replies. The answer is: No, I've never had a game with more than 6 turnovers. I play all of my games with 10 minute quarters and the most turnovers I've ever had is 5 (a couple of times). Seeing as how the 2006 averages were: INTs per game: 2.71 Forced fumbles: 3.94 Fumbles recovered by opposing team: 1.96 I'd say that 5 (even 6) isn't too far off the average of 4.67 turnovers per game. What I find hilarious is that I simply proposed an alternate view on the "supposed" problem and you (in your usual trolling fashion) decide to jump on it like I posted it as gospel.

Yup, in my trolling fashion. Here's one for your books: Then I want the magical game you have. SoMiss posted he had 11 Int's in one game alone a bit back... and I've seen the same as well. Not 11, but it was about 7 or 8 IIRC. 7 Min. quarters.

But again, to keep it consistent, "I sure wish I had your magical copy."

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by fantasysportsguy

Squint, why the hostility? You were talking about THIS Madden being more sim-like, with regards to the stick and fatigue, and I pointed out the most glaring example of how it isnt. Regardless of use of the stick, or fatigue, the incredible amount of turnovers we're having is unrealistic, in my opinion. You are free to disagree.

I believe it has something to do with... the game is finally so "sim," that we're all just complaining when we wanted the game to be more sim in the first place. We got what we wanted and we're still not happy.

**** us all.

[SportsTop]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Yup, in my trolling fashion. Here's one for your books: Then I want the magical game you have. SoMiss posted he had 11 Int's in one game alone a bit back... and I've seen the same as well. Not 11, but it was about 7 or 8 IIRC. 7 Min. quarters. But again, to keep it consistent, "I sure wish I had your magical copy."

You have "the magical copy". It's likely lessons you need.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

You have "the magical copy". It's likely lessons you need.

Yup. Maybe some day you'll be able to show us all how to avoid picking off the CPU quarterback 6 times in a game. SoMiss should get in on them as well.

**** us and our lack of skill against the CPU.

[Eddie1967]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

You have "the magical copy". It's likely lessons you need.

I love this thread. Hey instead of talking about how your not having the same issues as everyone else, why don't you prove it and post your stats from a few games. Your very emotional about the game not being broken for you, you even said "if I posted my stats you still wouldn't believe me", well it's time to show and prove. That goes for anyone saying that they are not having turnover issues. I re-rented the game this weekend in the hopes of finding that one magical copy that plays like yours but it didn't happen. I'm still playing hoping I can get used to it enough but so far it's not happening. Instead of telling us, why don't you show us. I'm sorry to say that if you don't post any stats they I will have no choice but to believe that you are in complete denial about this game.

[LIGHTNING]

Quote: Originally Posted by Squint

You just confirmed you did not, in fact, understand what I was saying. Re-read my post and tell me where I said the turnovers were "sim like". Get it right. LOL....you're one to talk about smart *** replies. The answer is: No, I've never had a game with more than 6 turnovers. I play all of my games with 10 minute quarters and the most turnovers I've ever had is 5 (a couple of times). Seeing as how the 2006 averages were: INTs per game: 2.71 Forced fumbles: 3.94 Fumbles recovered by opposing team: 1.96 I'd say that 5 (even 6) isn't too far off the average of 4.67 turnovers per game. What I find hilarious is that I simply proposed an alternate view on the "supposed" problem and you (in your usual trolling fashion) decide to jump on it like I posted it as gospel.

We should all be thankful for Pared who is willing to take time to create and share great sliders for some games that many people have enjoyed. People like Pared make this forum a better place.