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Old 09-30-2011, 04:35 PM   #73
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My guess is that Tito wants out and they talked him into thinking about it for a few days. If ownership wanted him gone it would have been done today.
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Old 09-30-2011, 04:53 PM   #74
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My guess is that Tito wants out and they talked him into thinking about it for a few days. If ownership wanted him gone it would have been done today.
Agreed. Time will tell I suppose.
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:36 PM   #75
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:43 PM   #76
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My guess is that Tito wants out and they talked him into thinking about it for a few days. If ownership wanted him gone it would have been done today.
Perhaps so. It's also possible that they want to seem like they deliberated and didn't jump to a typical conclusion, even though some reports are they did (as much as several weeks ago, even).

It's certainly not to the extent of Torre in NY a few years back by any means (the fan base is fairly split on Francona, it seems) but I think he's popular enough for his unmatched success in Boston that they would also want to be careful in how they part ways.

I think both sides get that though and I don't think a lack of formal word is really indicative of much of anything other than trying to keep things professional.
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Statements from the Boston Red Sox regarding Terry Francona

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Statement from John Henry, Tom Werner and Larry Lucchino on behalf of the Boston Red Sox:

"We met with Terry Francona, Theo Epstein and Ben Cherington Friday morning to discuss the 2011 season, ways to improve the club in the future, and Tito's status. During the meeting, Tito, Theo and Ben agreed that the Red Sox would benefit from an improved clubhouse culture and higher standards in several areas. Tito said that after eight years here he was frustrated by his difficulty making an impact with the players, that a different voice was needed, and that it was time for him to move on. After taking time to reflect on Tito's sentiments, we agreed that it was best for the Red Sox not to exercise the option years on his contract.

We have enormous respect, admiration and appreciation for Tito and the job that he did for eight years, including two World Series Championship seasons and five playoff appearances. His poise during the 2004 post-season was a key factor in the greatest comeback in baseball history, and his place in Red Sox history will never be forgotten. We wish him only the best going forward."

Statment from Theo Epstein:
"Tito and I didn't know each other when he was hired eight years ago, but over time we developed not only a great working relationship but also a personal friendship that will always be important to both of us. He proved to be an unflappable leader for our major league club, displaying consistency, calmness, hard work, thoughtfulness, a sense of humor, and faith in the players even at the most difficult of times. Without Tito's commitment over eight years, we would not be the organization we are today. Nobody at the Red Sox blames Tito for what happened at the end of this season; we own that as an organization. This year was certainly a difficult and draining one for him and for us. Ultimately, he decided that there were certain things that needed to be done that he couldn't do after eight years here, and that this team would benefit from hearing a new voice. While this may be true, his next team will benefit more than it knows from hearing Tito's voice. I will miss seeing Tito every day in the manager's office, and I wish him and his family nothing but the best in their next chapter."

Statment from Terry Francona:
"We met this morning to look back on the 2011 season and to consider the future of the Boston Red Sox, including my involvement with the club. I passed along my frustrations at my inability to effectively reach the players. After many conversations and much consideration, I ultimately felt that, out of respect to this team, it was time for me to move on. I've always maintained that it is not only the right, but the obligation, of ownership to have the right person doing this job. I told them that out of my enormous respect for this organization and the people in it, they may need to find a different voice to lead the team.

In my eight seasons as manager of the Boston Red Sox, I have developed a tremendous appreciation for Red Sox Nation. This is a special place with some of the most knowledgeable and passionate fans in all of baseball. They packed Fenway Park for every game and because of them, I had a special sense of pride coming to work every day. I want to thank John, Tom, Larry and Theo for giving me the opportunity to manage this team through some of the most successful years in this franchise's history. I wish the entire organization and all of Red Sox Nation nothing but the very best."
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My guess is that Tito wants out and they talked him into thinking about it for a few days. If ownership wanted him gone it would have been done today.
I guess it was more that they wanted to buy some time to write the press releases.
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