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Old 04-01-2016, 12:56 AM   #1
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Breaking pitches.

Has anyone else noticed how breaking pitches have different breaks from the same pitcher? Example sometimes a curveball is basically a 12-6 break (as shown on the classic ball marker prior to the pitch: with the yellow arrows). Next time I throw it, it's closer to a 12-8. Jake Arrieta's curve in particular can go from 12-6 to 12-8, and even break the other way at 12-5.

I'm curious if there's any way to control which way we want the ball to break.
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:11 AM   #2
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Re: Breaking pitches.

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Has anyone else noticed how breaking pitches have different breaks from the same pitcher? Example sometimes a curveball is basically a 12-6 break (as shown on the classic ball marker prior to the pitch: with the yellow arrows). Next time I throw it, it's closer to a 12-8. Jake Arrieta's curve in particular can go from 12-6 to 12-8, and even break the other way at 12-5.

I'm curious if there's any way to control which way we want the ball to break.
I noticed this in the first game I played. Oddly it was with Arrieta as well. Sometimes is shows a true 12-6 curve, but it can vary greatly from pitch to pitch. Not sure if its a 'bug' (because not every pitch that a pitcher throws is exactly the same) but I don't remember it happening last year.
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:13 AM   #3
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Re: Breaking pitches.

Cosart's 12-6 does the same.


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Old 04-01-2016, 01:23 AM   #4
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Re: Breaking pitches.

I'm pretty sure they said this would happen. It's to simulate effort, consistency and arm angle. At least that's what it feels like to me.
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Old 04-01-2016, 03:30 AM   #5
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Re: Breaking pitches.

I've seen it a lot and it's not just the curve. Oddly, if you step off then pick the same pitch it "resets" to the usual break so maybe it's a glitch?
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:47 AM   #6
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Re: Breaking pitches.

Yep. Seen it in last year and maybe 2014 also. Maybe even 2013. I knew Guerrieri had a 12-6 curve that year and sometimes it acted like a screwball.

I think it's pretty interesting.

I've also seen it on forkballs and knuckle-curves, too. Might be any of the "exotic" pitches.
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:50 AM   #7
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Re: Breaking pitches.

No pitcher is going to throw the pitch exact every pitch.... even 2 seam fastballs trail differently....energy, confidence, accuracy of your windup/release, depth in the count I'm sure all affect variables of how ultimately runs which is good
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:02 AM   #8
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Re: Breaking pitches.

Yeah I've noticed this too. Mostly on offspeed/curveball pitches. I figured the devs were trying to emulate someone's 2 strike curveball being different than their no strike curveball? So it's dependant on the count. Just a theory though haven't actually tested this out.
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