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Old 07-22-2019, 04:29 PM   #1
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Have ya'll seen this video?

CEO Keynote On Tricking Players Into Mass Spending Highlights Deplorable Truth of Microtransactions

Is it me, or do you not see these tactics in games like MLBTS, NHL, FIFA, etc?
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:12 PM   #2
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Re: Have ya'll seen this video?

meh, nothing new here:
a fool and his money soon separated, or:
there's a sucker born every minute, or:
buyer beware.
people been trying to get other folks money since well, money was discovered lol

always been that way, always will
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:34 PM   #3
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meh, nothing new here:
a fool and his money soon separated, or:
there's a sucker born every minute, or:
buyer beware.
people been trying to get other folks money since well, money was discovered lol

always been that way, always will
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Old 07-22-2019, 07:21 PM   #4
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I understand the concerns and am not saying that I'm fine with gambling being pushed into my home, but at the same time, parents really need to be involved here. The headline about the kids spending 3000+ pounds sterling on FIFA is asinine. Set up parental controls on the console. Check the card. Watch your kids play. Heck, learn to play with them. We live in the world of online transactions, which also means we also live in the world of push notifications to your phone when a charge is incurred.

The game developers that are using these tactics are really filthy. Don't think I'm letting them off of the hook. But people have been trying for thousands of years to capitalize on human vices to get money and somehow every person in the world isn't a raging, you-know-what-crazed alcoholic who sits at the casino all day. (not sure of the filters here but you all know what I'm talking about).

I didn't watch and study the entire video from end to end, but anyone, and I mean anyone, that thinks buying anything with a "chance" of a payoff is going to actually pan out is fooling themselves. The house always wins. Parents absolutely have to teach kids about this kind of thing exactly when they teach them about gambling. It is no different than baseball cards, Pokemon cards, etc. I have several hundred Pokemon and baseball cards, and about 50 of them actually came from packs, almost none of them bought by me (stocking stuffers and such). My parents showed me that packs, while they can be fun every once in a while, are a bad investment.

As someone that will be a parent soon, I'm not expecting to be able to know everything. But "there is nothing new under the sun" is as true now as it was when it was written, and human vices, despite their many masks, are ultimately the same old things. I can't control whether they listen but I can control whether they hear. And you better believe they're going to hear.
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Well, I was more concerned that they're actually trying to phase out offline modes and that most of their work goes into the "buffering system" because it is more profitable to have a game NOT determined by skill.

What's more is that everything gets pushed down on the priority list in favor of the "rigging" of the gameplay, thus we get these half baked games.

I mean, I don't really care if some fool wants to throw money at a rigged system. What's the saying? the lottery is a tax on stupid people? But, I'm tired of the same annoyances every year with these games. I'm down to 2 games now, NHL and MLBTS. I can't do it much longer. They're too stale too glitchy and too rotten.
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Re: Have ya'll seen this video?

I had considered linking that very video here, but thought it was too off-topic for this board.

I hope they don't lock this thread, though. This needs to be seen by EVERYONE.

"I made the mistake of making my game too skill-based."

Read that again.
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Well, I was more concerned that they're actually trying to phase out offline modes and that most of their work goes into the "buffering system" because it is more profitable to have a game NOT determined by skill.

What's more is that everything gets pushed down on the priority list in favor of the "rigging" of the gameplay, thus we get these half baked games.

I mean, I don't really care if some fool wants to throw money at a rigged system. What's the saying? the lottery is a tax on stupid people? But, I'm tired of the same annoyances every year with these games. I'm down to 2 games now, NHL and MLBTS. I can't do it much longer. They're too stale too glitchy and too rotten.
I'm absolutely convinced if the Show goes away from all offline stuffs, they'll lose a quarter of their sales. And this isn't Madden, or FIFA, they dont haves sales they can afford to throw away
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I'm absolutely convinced if the Show goes away from all offline stuffs, they'll lose a quarter of their sales. And this isn't Madden, or FIFA, they dont haves sales they can afford to throw away
The Show isn't going away from offline modes.
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