UFC 225: Whittaker VS Romero II

[TB5XSBW]

Quote: Originally Posted by WarMMA

I'm not saying Colby CAN'T win and if he does want to that would be the way to go. Clinch Woodley and wear him down. But I personally just don't feel it will be able to work against a more competent Woodley. And then if he's pressuring forward it's not Woodleys td's he has to worry about. It's those freaking bombs he has for hands. One of those lands and Colby's suddenly in another dimesnsion.

That's the whole point. Putting pressure on him and fighting from the inside will take away Woodley's only striking threat - his overhand right. That's what Macdonald and Jake Shields did to him, and also Nate Marquardt for most of that fight.

[TB5XSBW]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave_S

About Woodley's losses to high level wrestlers, is there a chance you are thinking of someone else?

You're a new fan, so you're unfamiliar with Jake Shields and Rory Macdonald, but Shields is an NCAA Division II wrestler and a two time All-American, and has tremendous experience in folk, freestyle, and submission wrestling, and Macdonald is a high level MMA wrestler who has out grappled many high level wrestlers and jiu jitsu practitioners (including Woodley.)

[Dave_S]

Quote: Originally Posted by TB5XSBW

You're a new fan, so you're unfamiliar with Jake Shields and Rory Macdonald, but Shields is an NCAA Division II wrestler and a two time All-American, and has tremendous experience in folk, freestyle, and submission wrestling, and Macdonald is a high level MMA wrestler who has out grappled many high level wrestlers and jiu jitsu practitioners (including Woodley.)

I guess it depends on someone's definition of a high level wrestler. Imo high level wrestlers don't get taken down by Demian Maia.

Macdonald got Woodley down in third and was stuck in his guard while Woodley held his arms. Imo Rory won that fight with by using a long, low stance, his jab, and very nice kicks.

My definition of high level wrestler is just more strict than yours, I guess.

Either way Cobly has to get by RDA first.

[MacGowan]

Either way RDA vs Colby is a good matchup, and I can't wait to see it!

[Dave_S]

Almost the whole card should be great. I still can't believe Marshall Mathers and Sergio are fighting on fight pass prelims.

I hear Whittaker and Yoel fight is still on.

[WarMMA]

Quote: Originally Posted by TB5XSBW

You're a new fan, so you're unfamiliar with Jake Shields and Rory Macdonald, but Shields is an NCAA Division II wrestler and a two time All-American, and has tremendous experience in folk, freestyle, and submission wrestling, and Macdonald is a high level MMA wrestler who has out grappled many high level wrestlers and jiu jitsu practitioners (including Woodley.)

Yes we know Sheilds has wrestling credentials but he's not a high lvl MMA wrestler. I wouldn't consider Mcdonald a high lvl MMA wrestler either. He has good MMA wrestling, but I wouldn't call it high lvl. A high level MMA wrestler is like GSP or DC.

[MacGowan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave_S

Marshall Mathers

Haha! 00's up in here

[MacGowan]

Quote: Originally Posted by WarMMA

High level MMA wrestler is like GSP or DC.

DC is ELITE... LEGENDARY MMA wrestling level, but no, I wouldn't consider Rory a high level MMA wrestler