Quitting MTO - too frustrating experience

[justlaze]

I'm usually not the one ranting a lot about my own gameplay experiences but I just witnessed such hilarious game where the Equalizer was so obvious. I just felt like I can do what ever I want the game is meant to favorize the opponent who was 3 leagues under me.

I was leading by 10 until he started to come back at the end of 3rd then 4th got completly out of hand.

a) Every contested shot from range went in
b) Every FT was made by his Wallace (6!)
c) My Alonzo missed 2 non contested lay-ups in the 4th which NEVER happened until then
d) Every lose ball got magically in his hand when my guy stood as close as his player

The list goes on. This was hilarious. You would laugh seeing this bs.
I took multiple timeouts, tried to fight the equalizer and momentum cheese, but no...the emerald tryhard gotta come back so he won't lose interest in the game right? I mean this is such scripted bs I have absolutely no clue why I put so much effort or money in this. I srsly pray EA makes a better Basketball game. Screw 2K along with all the money-grabbing from theme pack prices and their ****ty scripted gameplay.

[Bi00]

Quote: Originally Posted by harryl

Does anyone know of any YouTube videos showing this Big-to-Big paint play? I've never encountered it, myself, and I'm curious about what it looks like...

Sampham has a intro to flow offense that has some of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZOZxuOA_j4. But it's rarely this clean or structured. The most simple method is back down with a big then call a manual cut on the other big and force the pass. It's the AI positioning of the other big defender that usually screws up and allows the pass.

[harryl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bi00

Sampham has a intro to flow offense that has some of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZOZxuOA_j4. But it's rarely this clean or structured. The most simple method is back down with a big then call a manual cut on the other big and force the pass. It's the AI positioning of the other big defender that usually screws up and allows the pass.

Thanks! Now I have a better idea of how to envision it, even from just your description. That sort of move to the inside by the non-ballhandling big is basically unstoppable because the CPU is too sloppy about fighting for position in the paint when it comes to non-ballhandling players.

Lame to be forced to play a novelty lineup to counter novelty cheese, but how viable is a Manute + Bradley frontcourt, offensively, if one counters it with two big elite defending centers?

What's the best defensive strategy...let the CPU guard the ballhandling big and manual the other big to keep the off-ball opponent big out of the paint? I feel like I wouldn't mind letting a CPU Dikembe or even DeAndre defend a Bol or Bradley trying to post up.

Or are these guys able to just simply lob pass to each other, over defenders?

[Bi00]

I'm basically switching between the two bigs constantly fixing their positioning. Post game this year is really strong so you have to play the post man at the moment of their shot.

I think my front court just needs a major upgrade. My stretch 4s so far have been a huge defensive liability. I think it's time to try lineups with 2 full time paint stoppers. Too often, I manually bring in my PF to contest the paint and they do absolutely nothing. I'll probably jump back into MTO after I upgrade my frontcourt to defensive beasts and play my own flow motion sets.

[harryl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bi00

I'm basically switching between the two bigs constantly fixing their positioning. Post game this year is really strong so you have to play the post man at the moment of their shot. I think my front court just needs a major upgrade. My stretch 4s so far have been a huge defensive liability. I think it's time to try lineups with 2 full time paint stoppers. Too often, I manually bring in my PF to contest the paint and they do absolutely nothing. I'll probably jump back into MTO after I upgrade my frontcourt to defensive beasts and play my own flow motion sets.

I haven't been able to play many games but find it rare to face two true big. Usually the 4 is a stretch 4.

So I have a cheap lineup on which I have LMA, to throw in and work guys like Durant and PG13 in the paint.

Just got Elvin Hayes and looking forward to doing same with him.

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[Bi00]

I'm having fun again in MTO. I went to a flow offense and now I run plays on 80% of my possessions. I have 2-3 different plays that I run for 1, 2, or 3 and focus mostly on improving my play execution and decision making.

Defense is still a crapshoot but I'm having more success with positioning my PF to help out against 1-5 PnR. I'm going to replace my C position to big guys with HoF rim protector as well.

The only frustrating thing in my last couple of games if my lack of understanding of inbound plays. A couple of times I had no idea who I was passing and threw slow lob turnovers to the far corner player. Is there anyway to practice inbound plays in 2KU? :|

[Hyoranzo]

I'm near quitting too. Had my first taste of 2-3 zone just before. Every possession, I broke own the zone, but unfortunately, it was clear that 2k didn't want me to win as I bricked all my wide open 3s. Let's not forget that every time my player went to slash, he'd stumble and go into one of those long animations. Why bother playing when 2k doesn't reward you for playing smart? Just turbo into the paint like my opponent did. If it's not a dunk, it's a bail out foul.