[G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

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On Playstation Network...
name: base2
psn: stickmanduce

Premise
"base2" removes user exploits. Furthermore, it is meant to provide another level of challenge beyond "Hall of Fame". Tell me if you are able to exploit this set (and win).

Tested on Default Rosters.

Live Gameplay
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Settings
Game Speed: 50
Real FG% or personal preference.
Shot Timing FT or personal preference.
FT Difficulty: 50
Shot Meter Off

Spreadsheet containing current set and previous versions.

Current set listed below.
CPU

Spoiler

Offense
Inside Shot Success: 64
Close Shot Success: 64
Mid-Range Success: 64
3PT Success: 64
Layup Success: 50
Dunk In Traffic Frequency: 50
Dunk In Traffic Success: 32
Pass Accuracy: 32
Alley-Oop Success: 50
Contact Shot Success: 16
Ball Security: 32
Body-up Sensitivity: 99
Pass Speed: 50

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 99
Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 99
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff): 99
Layup Defense Strength (Release): 64
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather): 99
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release): 99
Help Defense Strength: 99
Steal Success: 99

Attributes
Acceleration: 50
Vertical: 32
Strength: 50
Stamina: 50
Speed: 50
Durability: 50
Hustle: 99
Ball Handling: 32
Hands: 99
Dunking Ability: 32
On-Ball Defense: 50
Stealing: 50
Blocking: 50
Offensive Awareness: 99
Defensive Awareness: 99
Offensive Rebounding: 1
Defensive Rebounding: 2
Offensive Consistency: 99
Defensive Consistency: 99
Fatigue Rate: 50
Lateral Quickness: 32

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots: 32
Take Close Shots: 4
Take Mid-Range Shots: 16
Take 3PT Shots: 32
Post Shots: 8
Attack The Basket: 32
Look for Post Players: 16
Throw Alley-Oops: 16
Attempt Dunks: 50
Attempt Putbacks: 50
Play Passing Lanes: 64
Go for On-Ball Steals: 64
Contest Shots: 99
Backdoor Cuts: 64

Fouls
Over The Back Foul: 99
Charging Foul: 99
Blocking Foul: 50
Reaching Foul: 99
Shooting Foul: 64
Loose Ball Foul: 99

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max Rating): 64
Speed with Ball (Min Rating): 16
Acceleration with Ball (Max Rating): 64
Acceleration with Ball (Min Rating): 16
Speed without Ball (Max Rating): 64
Speed without Ball (Min Rating): 16
Acceleration without Ball (Max Rating): 64
Acceleration without Ball (Min Rating): 32

USER

Spoiler

Offense
Inside Shot Success: 50
Close Shot Success: 50
Mid-Range Success: 50
3PT Success: 50
Layup Success: 32
Dunk In Traffic Frequency: 32
Dunk In Traffic Success: 32
Pass Accuracy: 32
Alley-Oop Success: 50
Contact Shot Success: 16
Ball Security: 32
Body-up Sensitivity: 99
Pass Speed: 50

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 99
Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 99
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff): 64
Layup Defense Strength (Release): 50
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather): 50
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release): 50
Help Defense Strength: 50
Steal Success: 16

Attributes
Acceleration: 50
Vertical: 32
Strength: 50
Stamina: 50
Speed: 50
Durability: 50
Hustle: 99
Ball Handling: 32
Hands: 32
Dunking Ability: 32
On-Ball Defense: 16
Stealing: 8
Blocking: 50
Offensive Awareness: 32
Defensive Awareness: 32
Offensive Rebounding: 1
Defensive Rebounding: 1
Offensive Consistency: 50
Defensive Consistency: 16
Fatigue Rate: 50
Lateral Quickness: 32

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots: 50
Take Close Shots: 50
Take Mid-Range Shots: 50
Take 3PT Shots: 50
Post Shots: 50
Attack The Basket: 50
Look for Post Players: 50
Throw Alley-Oops: 50
Attempt Dunks: 50
Attempt Putbacks: 50
Play Passing Lanes: 64
Go for On-Ball Steals: 64
Contest Shots: 99
Backdoor Cuts: 64

Fouls
Over The Back Foul: 99
Charging Foul: 99
Blocking Foul: 99
Reaching Foul: 99
Shooting Foul: 99
Loose Ball Foul: 99

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max Rating): 64
Speed with Ball (Min Rating): 16
Acceleration with Ball (Max Rating): 64
Acceleration with Ball (Min Rating): 16
Speed without Ball (Max Rating): 64
Speed without Ball (Min Rating): 16
Acceleration without Ball (Max Rating): 64
Acceleration without Ball (Min Rating): 32

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Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

PROBLEM STATEMENT

• The current state of 2K Slider Sets has focused primarily on duplicating the stats of a typical NBA game.
• These sets tend to focus on the computer tendencies, but fail to address the gap between risk and reward for user action.
• Instead of assuming the user will play in a "sim" way, this base set is built to make each decision on the court feel equally weighted for risk and reward, accepting all play styles as valid. Furthermore, we use a leveling system for any slider changes to reduce the amount of minute changes and increase playing time.
• Our initial focus will be seasoned NBA2K veterans on PS4.

This framework is open to all.

The Framework

All sliders use values included in the sequence: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 50, 64, 99.

Explanation: This sequence is used with the assumption that the computer can handle base 2 integers as effectively (or more) as all other values besides the default (50). More importantly, I prefer using a small set of values to spend more time playing the game. Thus, I include 99 as a max value for a variety of reasons, even though it isn't a base 2 integer.

Recommended Use: If the risk/reward of any particular mechanic doesn't feel balanced, raise or lower the corresponding slider values according to the sequence.

Many times multiple values affect any desired gameplay change. If unsure, I can give my opinions on which values can have an affect. These are hard sliders but the framework can be useful for anyone wanting to make quick changes and play more.

If you are using my set, try your best to blow out the CPU. Use all tools at your disposal (best plays, def settings, best lineups, etc.). Definitely open to making the game more challenging.

[Johnnythelegend]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

Any game speed advice for your set?
Real fg% or shot stick timing?

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Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

Any game speed advice for your set?
Real fg% or shot stick timing?

Game Speed: 50.
Real FG%

[fotello]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

Game Speed: 50.
Real FG%

do you have success with the pump fake?
For me is the nba 2k18's greatest problem....

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Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

do you have success with the pump fake?
For me is the nba 2k18's great problem....

I think pump fake serves multiple purposes.

1. Get the defender off their feet. I rarely see it on the perimeter. In the paint i see it a bit more often.
2. To get the defender to honor the shot. This can be seen in how much closer they defend when you start the pump fake. Can be used to attack them off the dribble.

I usually see the second effect in terms of defenders staying on their feet. I try to use it to set the next move up.

[fotello]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

I think pump fake serves multiple purposes.

1. Get the defender off their feet. I rarely see it on the perimeter. In the paint i see it a bit more often.
2. To get the defender to honor the shot. This can be seen in how much closer they defend when you start the pump fake. Can be used to attack them off the dribble.

I usually see the second effect in terms of defenders staying on their feet. I try to use it to set the next move up.

ok, I try, but for me they are broken...
All player are great defender, never jumps....

[ciaco]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

Sorry I've had no time these days. I'll give you feedback asap

Sent from my SM-G928F using Operation Sports mobile app

[duce]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

Sorry I've had no time these days. I'll give you feedback asap

Sent from my SM-G928F using Operation Sports mobile app

Our most recent gameplay is here.

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Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

Does anyone have any suggestions for the Pass Target Profile?

I'm trying new ones and currently running with it set as follows:
Pass Target Direction: 44
Pass Target Distance: 24
Pass Target Openness: 32

[EccentricMeat]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

ok, I try, but for me they are broken...

All player are great defender, never jumps....

Defensive Awareness seems to have the biggest effect. Lower D awareness leads to more defenders biting on a pump fake.

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Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

Defensive Awareness seems to have the biggest effect. Lower D awareness leads to more defenders biting on a pump fake.

Thanks Eccentric. This leads me into how I make changes to these sliders.

1. Play about 8 to 12 games or until first win with sliders the same
2. Determine what changes I want to see in the game
3. Make 1-2 corresponding slider changes.

My method is to change sliders primarily using exponents of 2 as I assume it is easier for a computer to handle. I also assume that it will keep me from making too many minute changes to the slider set as I try to incorporate other aspects of the game (coaching & team building). All sliders are given one of the following numbers/levels: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 50, 64, 99.
50 is used because it is a default point for most sliders. 99 is used as a max number. I prefer it over 100 as I assume that it will allow for more differentiation while applying a similar increase.

My most recent change was an increase to user defense on the jump shot gather and an increase to the CPU ball security. It felt easy to run around the CPU for a quick steal on the break or in the paint, though I am watching for a continuation of 'live' ball physics. The jump shot defense was raised to combat the abundance of last second shots that were falling from the defense. I hope that the CPU is still able to shoot over the defense (with good scorers).

I am currently 5-14 on these sliders with the Sacramento Kings (featuring Jackson Baldwin in MyGM). I am streaming my first game with these changes now.

[fotello]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

Defensive Awareness seems to have the biggest effect. Lower D awareness leads to more defenders biting on a pump fake.

are you sure? in this game defenders never jumps on pump fake, I decrease sliders value and player's attribute, rarely I see cpu's defender on pump fake...
Rarely I see this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2EMqBkGmww

with the drawing fouls, for me is the gratest nba2k18's problem...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_seYVXD4k

1 in more of 100 games...

[duce]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

are you sure? in this game defenders never jumps on pump fake, I decrease sliders value and player's attribute, rarely I see cpu's defender on pump fake...
Rarely I see this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2EMqBkGmww

with the drawing fouls, for me is the gratest nba2k18's problem...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_seYVXD4k

1 in more of 100 games...

What are all the slider values you've tried changing? I would assume this is affected by DEF Awareness as Eccentric said. I would also assume you've tried changing DEF Consistency and Contest Shots sliders.

[fotello]

Re: [G.O.A.T. Difficulty] Base 2 for 2K18

What are all the slider values you've tried changing? I would assume this is affected by DEF Awareness as Eccentric said. I would also assume you've tried changing DEF Consistency and Contest Shots sliders.

I decrease DEF AWARNESS in slides and DEF AWARNESS in player's ability and I haven t result... somethimes defender jump but is soo random...