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Old 10-19-2017, 08:45 PM   #25
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Re: NBA 2K taking out 5 Out set was a SOFT MOVE

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If you compare that video to 5-out as it existed in the game, you'll see a very stark difference. The Warriors are moving around, setting picks, making cuts, the whole 9 yards. Rarely was the area inside the perimeter completely vacant.

With 5 Out and Space the Floor as it stood in game, it was completely different. Usually it was 4 stagnant players plus the user ballhandler either trying to take a pick or, more likely in this year's iteration, trigger a blow-by. Even with the best users, that was either a) going to work or b) force an unnecessary help defender to open up a 3. The solution wasn't necessarily just the user knowing how to defend against it. I knew what needed to happen but was held back because of...

This right here. The AI D doesn't rotate properly. But since that's a legacy issue that probably won't be fixed any time soon, eliminating 5 out is a fine fix for now.

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We fix the AI instead completely removing it?

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Old 10-19-2017, 08:46 PM   #26
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Again, that goes right back to my point: defense. Why would anyone waste time running the motions/cuts of the offense when you can score much faster and easier by just isolating?
Because it works?

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Old 10-19-2017, 09:44 PM   #27
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Because it works?
That. Right there.

You're playing video games.

Don't play video games. Play basketball.
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:50 PM   #28
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That. Right there.

You're playing video games.

Don't play video games. Play basketball.
It is basketball. Whatever they have in the actual NBA should be in the game. The NBA didn't ban 5 Out so why should a game, supposedly simulation, take it out? I can't support that respectfully

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We fix the AI instead completely removing it?

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That's obviously the ideal, but for now, since the AI isn't probably going to be fixed any time soon, removing it is a fine solution

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Old 10-19-2017, 10:32 PM   #30
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That's obviously the ideal, but for now, since the AI isn't probably going to be fixed any time soon, removing it is a fine solution

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Can't argue that. I guess they didn't have a choice. Oh well. RIP 5 Out and Princeton chin

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Can't argue that. I guess they didn't have a choice. Oh well. RIP 5 Out and Princeton chin

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Princeton Chin is the one I miss. Damn that was a fun offense to run.

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Princeton Chin is the one I miss. Damn that was a fun offense to run.

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I was running with the Nets and Kings. They run a sort of offense.

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