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Old 08-22-2018, 09:48 PM   #73
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Examples of Drafts where basketball professionals didn't understand basketball: 2006

POINT GUARDS
21. Rajon Rondo (All-Star)
22. Marcus Williams
24. Kyle Lowry (All-Star)
26. Jordan Farmar
27. Sergio Rodriguez
29. Mardy Collins
42. Daniel Gibson

Holy crap GMs were ****ing terrible.

SHOOTING GUARD
6. Brandon Roy (All-Star)
7. Randy Foye
11. J.J. Redick
13. Thabo Sefolosha
14. Ronnie Brewer
19. Quincy Douby
25. Shannon Brown
28. Maurice Ager

Roy and Foye battled injuries that sapped their careers. Redick had a legit NBA skill and ended up working at his inadequacies to stick in the league.

Sefolosha ended up a key 3 & D guy, while Brewer never developed that 3 and subsequently faded each year his athleticism waned. It was a similar story for the rest of the slashers who didn't pan out (note that guards who rely on athleticism rather than skill will have shorter careers).

At 6'3" 170, Quincy Douby was a poor man's Jimmer Fredette, except he was so bad you couldn't even run him at PG. Not only did this player exist, it even got drafted in the first round, and ahead of two All-Star PGs... GMs had no clue what qualities to look for...

SMALL FORWARD
3. Adam Morrison
8. Rudy Gay
16. Rodney Carney
17. Shawne Williams
20. Renaldo Balkman
31. James White
35. P.J. Tucker

I don't care what he averaged in college, the writing was on the wall that Morrison was not going to be a better pro than Rudy Gay or Brandon Roy. He wasn't an athlete, wasn't a shooter, wasn't even a passer.

Ah, Isiah Thomas, the gift that keeps on giving. Renaldo Balkman was projected to go undrafted and Isiah, a Hall of Fame Point Guard, took him directly ahead of TWO All-Star Point Guards. This is precisely what happens when arrogant jocks "go by feel".

P.J. Tucker ended up the 2nd best SF in the class, by virtue of him being the only guy who could guard his position that ended up learning how to shoot.

POWER FORWARDS
1. Andrea Bargnani
2. LaMarcus Aldridge (All-Star)
4. Tyrus Thomas
5. Shelden Williams
15. Cedric Simmons
23. Josh Boone
29. Joel Freeland
32. Steve Novak
33. Solomon Jones
34. Paul Davis
36. Craig Smith
47. Paul Millsap (All-Star)
49. Leon Powe

What a poor gamble by Toronto, focusing only on Bargnani's strengths and not on his weaknesses, and missing out on Aldridge in the process (yes, they already had Bosh, but that's not a justification for drafting Bargnani instead).

Aldridge ended up clear best player in this class. He was a super safe pick, had a high skill level, and was the rare big with a post game. That would have been exactly what Chicago needed. They traded him for Tyrus Thomas (aka future Josh Smith), for reasons I don't think anyone wants to remember.

The long and the short of it though is that every PF drafted between Aldridge and Millsap was a steaming pile of dung. They were critically flawed one-dimensional role players, exemplified by Shelden Williams at #5. Bargnani is the #3 PF in this class and at least was a top 10 overall player (which is saying something). His career got ruined the moment he was selected #1.

CENTERS
9. Patrick O'Bryant
10. Mohammed Sene
12. Hilton Armstrong
18. Oleksiy Pecherov
50. Ryan Hollins

Three centers taken in the lottery and none of them panned out (while the Wizards used a first-rounder to wait two years on a likewise not good enough Pecherov). Teams still couldn't learn their lesson (while future All-Star PGs went in the 20s). It should say something Hollins had the best career out of these guys and that it's not even close (he was also the best Bobcat drafted that day, also not close).

The following teams had good drafts: Blazers (Aldridge/Roy), Celtics (Rondo/Powe), Grizzlies (Gay/Lowry), Magic (Redick), Jazz (Brewer/Millsap), Rockets (traded Gay for Shane Battier).

Every other team was pretty measurably terrible in terms of talent evaluation (with the worst offender being the Knicks). Rondo/Lowry wouldn't have slipped through the cracks today while teams were gambling on a slew of athletic 2/3/4/5s.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:21 PM   #74
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Old 08-23-2018, 01:36 AM   #76
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have found throughout the years that 2K underrates the vast majority of NBA players - rookies are no exception. Conversely, stars are typically overrated Gods due to casual appeal.

Anytime there is a team with a bench mob (like Utah) they will rate criminally low. This isn't a recent development. I've been covering this for a staggering 15 years now. It will always be the case until someone like me with a hard commitment to detail ends up in charge. Even then, that person would still need the backing to get it cleared through the numerous bureaucrats within the company who would favor a status quo. (Why take the Ri$k?)
It's too bad it seems like they don't tap the OS forums for talent anymore. They probably feel like they have it all figured out so why bother.

Anyways, thanks for the replies, your posts are mad informative.
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Yeaaaaaa. Can't wait to see what they did with Collins.
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Yeaaaaaa. Can't wait to see what they did with Collins.

I have a feeling he's going to be lower than Prince. Heard someone say Prince is the highest rated on the Hawks, but not sure how much truth to that.
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Prince 79 overall will mean he will develop into a useful role player so that will be nice to see. Nice to see Simons with a low ovr with I'm assuming high potential
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