2K11...Refreshing

[MNHuskerman]

Okay. Can anyone other than Optik or JasonWilliams55 explain to me why you think using a different defense for a few minutes is cheese? If I switch to a defense that is universally considered to be detrimental to your chances to win, but it confuses the offense and they don't change up their attack, how is that cheese? Is it cheese becuase no NBA team would ever play zone? Sorry, NBA teams play zone sometimes. Is it cheese just becuase the Nets failed to adjust, and since they didn't adjust I should switch back to man and take my knuckle bumps? I didn't know there was a rule in the NBA where you can only play man defense, and if you switch to a zone that is illegal?

I fail to see the difference between what you call cheese, and what I see as a momentary change in strategy to mix it up. If 1-3-1 is cheesier than cheese wiz, and cause for one's 2K card to be revoked, then I apologize, but 2K should then consider taking it out of the game to ensure that everyone plays by the rules. Just so everyone is clear, I played 1-3-1 zone for 8 minutes of the game, so I MUST be a cheeser. Didn't want anyone to be confused. Can I have some onions with my double cheeseburger please?

[MNHuskerman]

Now I'm a politician! You guys must be the President and Vice President of the 2K Anti-Cheese Wiz Society. So let me get this straight. Let's say you're losing the entire game, and your man to man defense is getting straight torched. You consider it wrong, in a video game mind you, to switch strategy and try something else? You'd rather get beat like a drum, and play man defense the whole game and never try anything else to see if it would work better? In some corners of the globe, that would be called insanity. I'm all about trying different ways of doing things if what I'm doing doesn't work.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

I really haven't enjoyed 2k13 much outside of teamup.

2k11 was all around fun for me. But now it's tuff to play 2k11.

[Optik]

^^But but, I thought you could defend the paint in 2K11?

BTW, the only person who has mentioned the term 'cheeser' is YOU. You're the one who was complaining about cheese, but when it was pointed out to you that what you did to get back in the game is widely regarded as cheese in these parts, you played the victim. You would have been better off if you didn't even complain about cheese, because there really isn't anything different between you using a 1-3-1 and someone using LeBron to play out his extremely powerful dunk animation. Also, remember, you were playing the CPU, a CPU who has gotten smarter offensively in 2K13 and would have probably ripped your 1-3-1 apart, but nonetheless a CPU which has limited intelligence when compared to a human.

[slowdifference]

2k11 was a very good game but revisionist hirstory overrates the game. I may be in the minority but 2k8 was always the best overall experience for me.

[MNHuskerman]

Optik,

I agree that the cpu would have adjusted quicker in 2K13 to punch holes in the 1-3-1, but I honestly wasn't aware that the limited use of the zone was considered dishonest or cheesy. Is it viewed that way by the forum becuase it is not used much in the league? If so, I can understand your point of view and respect that. Or is the 1-3-1 a glitchy defense that is flawed logic with the game that should be fixed, removed or not used? I'm still confused on the why?

[PJBrownHeat]

For my part it's the same, i played this week end to 2k11 to watch again Bulls triangle strategy.

It was more easy in the menu to find roster, first thing!
why in nba 2k13 manager roster is in option!
Music is good, i was happy to listen it again, but for my part i love 2k12 and 2k13 too no problem, on this, In 2k13 Nas the world is your, perfect music, Jay Z i love the music with Rihanna etc

second good thing, triangle offense are more interesting i think. not all the real triangle strategy unfortunately of course, but more than 2k12 and 2k13!

I played a game with the 91 Bulls, Phil Jackson is on the floor, it warmed my heart to see him!
I played with a classic paint, not with an area restriction, what a joy!
I played against the Celtics of Larry Bird, he was so beautiful in the game, authentics! I found in 2011 that the celtics floor was not real good but in fact it was a real beautiful floor!
I noticed that maybe it was more easy to beat the cpu. I tried a first half in HOF against the 96 Sonics, Hawkins was totally low-key, Shawn Kemp was not in an NBA JAM Mode like in 2k13, maybe my ps3 was resting because i didn't play with it for 4 weeks!!

Not long ago we talked about if court should be bigger, and something striked me when i saw Pippen i found him more smaller on the floor it was glaring and so, all the plaers were smaller. I think in 2k11 player were smaller so it was maybe a better proportion between court and players.

It was good to play with Jordan, finally he was well represented! good jumpshot, good one hand dunk!

I played today to 2k13, apart from the difficulties to stop Orlando Magic 95 with the Bulls 96, it was good to come back on 2k13! Graphics are good, nice to look!!

But i hope that 2k11 was not the best game never made, isn't it Snoop?

[slowdifference]

Quote: Originally Posted by MNHuskerman

Optik, I agree that the cpu would have adjusted quicker in 2K13 to punch holes in the 1-3-1, but I honestly wasn't aware that the limited use of the zone was considered dishonest or cheesy. Is it viewed that way by the forum becuase it is not used much in the league? If so, I can understand your point of view and respect that. Or is the 1-3-1 a glitchy defense that is flawed logic with the game that should be fixed, removed or not used? I'm still confused on the why?

The 1-3-1 is seen as cheap because of it's flawed logic and the games unrealistic recovery. When done correctly the 1-3-1 is as cheesy as it gets on D, that's why it's frowned upon around these parts. Truth be told I will use it if my opponet is detroying me in the paint.