I dont think there is a roster glitch

[edaddy]

Quote: Originally Posted by jbrew2411

After reading every page of the roster glitch thread on Saturday I decided to do some testing of my own. I used D. Robinson as my test subject. I played 5 games on default AA, 6 minute qtr, with the cpu as Michigan and I used different levels of schools. I'm using a early version of Block-o's file. Game 1: I was UGA, D-Rob was listed as "Balanced" Passing: 13-25 228yds 1td 2ints 6 sacks Rushing: 12atts for 36yds 0tds Game 2: I was Miami, D-Rob was still listed as "Balanced" Passing: 15-30 246yds 2tds 3ints 8 sacks Rushing: 10atts for -20yds 0tds Game 3: I was Penn St., I edited D-Rob to now become a "Scrambler", I upped his strength rating a few points to see the change. Passing: 14-25 231yds 3tds 1int 2 sacks Rushing: 16atts for 126yds 2tds Game 4: I was Texas, D-Rob was still the same as game #3. Passing: 12-30 194yds 1td 2ints 3 sacks Rushing: 20atts for 98yds 1 td Game 5: I was Indiana, D-Rob the same as game #3 & 4. Passing: 20-33 289yds 4tds 1int 1 sack Rushing: 22atts 134yds 3tds In games 1 & 2, D-Rob, was looking to pass more then run. Very few times did the cpu take off with him listed as "Balanced" on the roster screen but listed as "Scrambler" on the ratings screen. On most of the sacks there was holes to run through but the ball was held way to long then would run into a sack. Now in games 3-5 I saw the old D-Rob from the numbered rosters. He now was listed as a "Scrambler" on the roster screen but "Balanced" in the ratings screen. I raised his straight rating a few points so he would now be listed as a "Scrambler" on the roster screen and "Balanced" on the ratings screen. In those 3 games I saw the D-Rob that ripped me a new one before roster come out. I didn't see him trying to truck anyone but rather made a few jukes and even a spin out of a sack to run for a nice 10 yard dash for 6. It was hard to contain him. I also did some work with Andrew Luck. On my file he was listed as a "Scrambler" on the roster screen. I played 2 games, same set up, against him with USC & UCLA and he killed me. I didn't record the stats but he played like Tebow and Newton. I then did some edits to turn him into a "Balanced" QB on the roster screen. I then played using the same two teams and saw a different Luck. He stayed in the pocket more vs taking off as soon as he felt pressure. He still made a few nice runs but nothing like before. I'm convinced that the glitch is not a game breaker but does change the game play. I went through the roster file to edit every QB in order to fit to their skill set and system they play in. I since started a Dynasty, using Georgia, but have only played 2 games. In the first, against Boise State, Moore was listed as a "Pocket Passer" and played that way. The second game was against South Carolina and Garcia, listed as a "Scrambler", looked to run when needed but didn't run more then he should have. I know the glitch is there but can be overcome with a few edits. Thank goodness we can now make edits inside the dynasty mode.

Good pos man I did the same thing with D-Rob and Emanuel from Fl State and could drastically tell a difference..You arre right it's just a matter of editing a slider and changing the tendency at the ratings screen...I have now done this for all positions..

[pmini82]

Quote: Originally Posted by jbrew2411

From what I can tell the tendency on the roster page is what controls how the player plays in NCAA 12. While the ratings screen shows the tendency given based on ratings the roster screen gets some crossed up. That is why you see guys who should be run first QB's now playing to pass first run second and vice versa. I'm not sure how Madden handles the transfer but if it is based off ratings alone then there should not be an issue. Also Madden allows for full edited rosters inside the franchise mode so the use could fix any issue they see with a draft class. I still say there is a glitch but it is not as bad as some make it out to be. I wish I could load some videos of D-Rob playing like D-Rob. Better yet anyone wanting to see for them selves just need to edit him on their roster file to say "Balanced" on the ratings screen so it will cross it up. Then go play against him and watch him take off time and again against you.

Well that sounds legit and i so hope thats the case with madden (and it prob will be) but as for ncaa im not quite sure about editing every player just so you can trick the cpu out and they play normal, thats just too much... your method sounds good though so kudos to that idea, its just too much of a hassel lol. ill just keep hoping that once the patch goes through itll correct the rosters i already have so that i wont need to redo my dynasty and as for madden, well it seems like the corrupted files should be good. so if its good with madden then im good since thats my main concern anyways.

[jbrew2411]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mr.T

Why not use the same school in every game and call the same defense every play? There are too many variables in each game combined with variability of teams and overall player/team ratings to even come up with any sort of conclusion.

So what does it prove to run the same play with the same team over the course of 5 games? It proves nothing. What I was looking for was to see how a player of D-Rob's skill set would react based on tendency. I used different teams to show that it was not just a one time thing. If I had just used a team with a A+ defense then that would prove nothing to me. My goal was to see if the link between how a player plays is based on the tendency shown on the rating screen or the one on the roster page. I read enough to have a good idea but I wanted to see for myself. I know how people at OS can be sometimes. I like to form my own opinions. The great thing about data is can it any way you want it. If you feel that you can't from any conclusion from my data then thats you. For me it proved the game was not broken like so many claim. While it sucks to have to take time to make edits it can be overcome. That is why so many, including myself, asked EA for the addition of ratings edits for all players inside the dynasty mode.

[Mr.T]

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[bailey4mvp]

What did you edit? can you give a spreadsheet so we can do the smae dits if we want please?

[jbrew2411]

Quote: Originally Posted by bailey4mvp

What did you edit? can you give a spreadsheet so we can do the same dits if we want please?

I only did QB's. I edited the strength rating. Most only took a few points up to change the tendency. Just remember if you want a "Scrambler" then the tendency on the ratings screen must say "Balanced" and vice versa. I also made sure every QB played to their skill set. There were a few "Scramblers" who had less then an 80spd rating so I made sure they were correct as well. By doing this I didn't raise a single players overall. It didn't turn any of the running QB's I have played against into Ron Dayne. In fact D-Rob was using juke moves and spins or just getting what he could then getting down. Once again it took me about an hour to do so that is worth the time to enjoy the game now vs waiting to play it in a month or so.

My formula:
QB's with speed ratings 80 or higher= scramblers
QB's with a speed ratings of 70-79= balanced
QB's with a speed ratings of less then 69= pocket passer

[outkaz79]

So you only need to edit the strength rating to see a change in tendency in QB's?

[sal_cucchiara123]

Will this roster glitch be in effect if I use Auto generated names? So if I do an offline dynasty with auto generated names will it be in effect and also for incoming recruits? I've never been able to find a definitive answer.