In Your Opinion: Where Does Donovan McNabb Rank Amongst Active QBs?

[Cebby]

Quote: Originally Posted by SuperChargers

9. Cutler (amazed no one mentions he still got 27 TDs with that personnel, I guess the 26 interceptions is why. I still see him turning around in a few years)

He was tied for 8th in touchdowns, but was #1 in interceptions by 6 picks and the three next closest players were rookies.

That's terrible any way you slice it.

[SuperChargers]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

He was tied for 8th in touchdowns, but was #1 in interceptions by 6 picks and the three next closest players were rookies. That's terrible any way you slice it.

I agree his INT numbers are horrible but if he gets some weapons on offense I see him turning it around. Maybe the Bears will be a playoff team. Too bad by the time they do get that offense the defense will be far gone.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

1. McNabb has never done "more" than Peyton Manning. He did better in 2001 and that was it. 2. Manning didn't have a "young" WR corps, he had a corps of WR that nobody had ever heard of. Not only were they rooks, they were low drafted rooks from a mid major and a division 3 school. 3. That excuse for McNabb is getting tired. At one point it may have been true, but the Eagles have spent 3 top 2 round draft picks on offensive "weapons" for McNabb the last two years on top of Westbrook and Celek. 3 or 4 years ago that excuse was true, but now it's silly. Quite simply, you switch Maclin, Avant, and Jackson for Wayne, Collie, and Garcon and Manning probably throws for even more yards and TDs. By this point, Manning has played with about 3 completely different groups of runningbacks, wide receivers, and tight ends and managed to look like amazing with all of them.

I was following you until that line. How would that make sense?

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

1. McNabb has never done "more" than Peyton Manning. He did better in 2001 and that was it.

What I meant is he has had half of the talent(offensively) Manning has his entire career yet still manage to have more consistent post season success and still put together a HOF career.

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2. Manning didn't have a "young" WR corps, he had a corps of WR that nobody had ever heard of. Not only were they rooks, they were low drafted rooks from a mid major and a division 3 school.

Clearly the props goes to Bill Polian for making the great finds like he always does. And the media has been saying all year how young and inexperience the Colts WR's were this year.

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3. That excuse for McNabb is getting tired. At one point it may have been true, but the Eagles have spent 3 top 2 round draft picks on offensive "weapons" for McNabb the last two years on top of Westbrook and Celek. 3 or 4 years ago that excuse was true, but now it's silly.

What excuse? He has performed there are no need for excuse. But one was a rookies and the other a 2nd year player. Yeah they can play but clearly arent seasoned vets. And you cant deny that.

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Quite simply, you switch Maclin, Avant, and Jackson for Wayne, Collie, and Garcon and Manning probably throws for even more yards and TDs.

Wayne is a potential HOF'er who has been in the system his entire career. You cant began to compare his impact to Maclin or Jackson.

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By this point, Manning has played with about 3 completely different groups of runningbacks, wide receivers, and tight ends and managed to look like amazing with all of them.

At this point in any QB's career theres going be a good bit of turnover in personnel. But everybody is replaced with more talent. Which goes back to Bill Polian being a elite GM. The talent he has had through out his career has been more than anybody other than Kurt Warner.

He has played with pontentially 4 or 5 HOF'er just on his side of the ball how many players in this era can say that?

[Cebby]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy

I was following you until that line. How would that make sense?

Because Jackson, Maclin, and Avant are a better group of receivers than Wayne and two low drafted rooks.

[chance]

Quote: Originally Posted by Olson-for-Heisman

1. Manning 2. Brees 3. Rivers 4. Favre 5. Brady 6. Warner 7. Rodgers 8. Big Ben 9. Schaub 10. Romo McNabb, Palmer, little Manning, and Ryan would constitute the next tier.

HOW???

And lol at Schaub and Romo, hell even Rodgers

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

Because Jackson, Maclin, and Avant are a better group of receivers than Wayne and two low drafted rooks.

No sir. You're mistaken. And especially considering Manning has Dallas Clark too. Wayne >>> Jackson. Maclin = Garcon. Clark + Collie >>> Avant.

Maclin hasn't even looked all that great this year. Jackson's been a big play threat and that's about it. He's just been a more electric version of Percy Harvin. And Garcon and Collie can play with Maclin and Avant. And Dallas Clark is much better than Brent Celek.

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

Because Jackson, Maclin, and Avant are a better group of receivers than Wayne and two low drafted rooks.

Your agrument is based on where they were drafted which has absolutely no impact on how they perform. Based on your agrument JaMarcus Russell is better than Tom Brady. And Wayne alone is better than the Eagles group. Jackson is explosive but too one dimensional. And Maclin is no where near being a polished WR.