The best leader of men in the NFL...

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Quote: Originally Posted by z Revis

Sure. But with his history of posting, and the fact that he specifically excluded QB's from the discussion in his original post, I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to think.

Factually untrue.

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

Who is the best leader in the NFL? Before answering, I'm not talking about MANAGEMENT APPOINTED LEADERS like quarterbacks and coaches. Some QBs would certainly qualify, Fran Tarkenton was fearless.

I did no such thing. I excluded YOUR GUY and that's your real issue.

[Evan_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

And I put Brees in the discussion of inspirational leaders, even though he's the type of QB I think is overrated. Brees is one of the men, not above the men and I think that appeals to the men in his charge.

Not to go off track or anything, but overrated? Are you kidding? What makes you say that?

[mKoz26]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

Holy unfair edits, Batman! Let's post the entire quote: You want to talk agendas, let's talk butchering my words to make your point.

I didn't "edit". I quoted. That's what you said. What's funny is that you mentioned Tarkenton as a "warrior". When did he play? Exactly.

[mKoz26]

Quote: Originally Posted by shotgun styles

And I put Brees in the discussion of inspirational leaders, even though he's the type of QB I think is overrated. Brees is one of the men, not above the men and I think that appeals to the men in his charge.

Drew Brees plays like a warrior?

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Quote: Originally Posted by mKoz26

I didn't "edit". I quoted. That's what you said. What's funny is that you mentioned Tarkenton as a "warrior". When did he play? Exactly.

You selectively quoted. There's a difference. When you take someone out of context you're not really quoting them.

Quote: Originally Posted by CodeBlueDude

Not to go off track or anything, but overrated? Are you kidding?

This goes back to my ongoing complaints about the 1978 rules changes and all the QB coddling that has gone on since then. Not so much an indictment of Brees as it is the NFL and the competition committee. But that is another discussion that I'd rather like to avoid in this thread.

[Evan_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by mKoz26

Drew Brees plays like a warrior?

I'm trying to figure out what he means by a warrior lol. I'm thinking he means vocally, but warrior would not be the right word to use there if you ask me.

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Quote: Originally Posted by mKoz26

Drew Brees plays like a warrior?

Quote: Originally Posted by CodeBlueDude

I'm trying to figure out what he means by a warrior lol. I'm thinking he means vocally, but warrior would not be the right word to use there if you ask me.

I'd say he's on the fringes. He certainly has a more intense and emotional approach to the game, but he is a pocket guy at the end of the day.

I would not have him at the top of the list, but I wouldn't completely disqualify him either.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by CodeBlueDude

I'm trying to figure out what he means by a warrior lol. I'm thinking he means vocally, but warrior would not be the right word to use there if you ask me.

What do you mean? Please clarify...