12:36 PM - May 18, 2009 by blklightningMadden 2010 News Post
12:36 PM - May 18, 2009 by blklightningMadden NFL 10 Videos
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looks good overall but what the hell is going on with the tight end play at 4:30?? looks odd. heath miller takes on 3 guys and pushes them all backward then it kind of jumps forward? ..looks weird
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TheWatcher @ 05/18/09 01:25 PM
At 2:07 of the vid the defense is huddling up like an offense would... defenses don't do that.
Here is an example of an offensive huddle and defensive one:
Notice how the offensive huddle (Cardinals) is neater, and the defensive huddle (Steelers) is less organized.
The camera starting at 2:07 needs to come down some too. Because of where the plays are positioned, it's obstructing the view and the shot looks a bit strange.
Here is an example of an offensive huddle and defensive one:
Notice how the offensive huddle (Cardinals) is neater, and the defensive huddle (Steelers) is less organized.
The camera starting at 2:07 needs to come down some too. Because of where the plays are positioned, it's obstructing the view and the shot looks a bit strange.
The game looks good even in this alpha build. Props to Ian for giving an interview to a floating mic for 15 minutes lol. That must have been very awkward. Those little glitches will most definitely get fixed before release. They wouldn't let the game ship with pro-tak looking like that. It's their staple for this game
I think the one new thing that I came away from the video with was how when a tackle is engaged and the player is definitely going down, the camera angle changed to a broadcast style one. This is different to previous years where the play was over for 8 seconds and the camera never changed. I like this A LOT!
Good work folks, I'm diggin the new stuff coming out.
Good work folks, I'm diggin the new stuff coming out.
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Nice vid the little things are really starting to add up. I like how Big Ben gets under center with one leg behind the other just like we see on Sundays!!
What I liked:
Dockett blows up a run.
Dockett gets pressure up the middle on the pass play.
Good steering animations by the OT's
Good riding and fight by the DE's (although I still think they engage to early)
What needs more tuning:
Dansby engages too early. Should have run up the field some more.
QB finishes drop way too early before DE's get up the field. Or is it DE's engaging too early and thereby making it look like the QB finishes his drop way too early. Whichever one it is and it could be a little bit of both, this needs to get straightened out.
Will have to look at it again. The gang tackling at the end with Miller they will fix, I'm sure, so I'm not including that.
Dockett blows up a run.
Dockett gets pressure up the middle on the pass play.
Good steering animations by the OT's
Good riding and fight by the DE's (although I still think they engage to early)
What needs more tuning:
Dansby engages too early. Should have run up the field some more.
QB finishes drop way too early before DE's get up the field. Or is it DE's engaging too early and thereby making it look like the QB finishes his drop way too early. Whichever one it is and it could be a little bit of both, this needs to get straightened out.
Will have to look at it again. The gang tackling at the end with Miller they will fix, I'm sure, so I'm not including that.
I'm starting to get very excited for this game. However, my favorite part of Madden has always been running the ball, and in the videos I've seen thus far (including this new one), the running game looks to be similarly problematic to last year's edition.
I know that there have been OL/DL improvements made, and the game speed has been slowed to facilitate running, but it still looked like the play got blown up too soon, and there was still the same silly, slow "hop-juke" at play, and the holes still didn't seem to materialize as well as they should.
Could we possibly get some footage of the running game in action?
P.S. I agree with those who have already said that we need the yardage lines back on the play-call screen.
I know that there have been OL/DL improvements made, and the game speed has been slowed to facilitate running, but it still looked like the play got blown up too soon, and there was still the same silly, slow "hop-juke" at play, and the holes still didn't seem to materialize as well as they should.
Could we possibly get some footage of the running game in action?
P.S. I agree with those who have already said that we need the yardage lines back on the play-call screen.
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One of the best examples of game play and presentation we have seen thus far.
Game Play
Best game play I have seen in Madden, ever. Pocket's forming, guys are coming off the line correctly (no instant start). Game speed looks good. Coverage looks good.
The pocket is better, but still doesn't look quite right. It might just be that on this play the DT got pressure, but they pushed right up the middle, pretty much negating the pocket feel.
The biggest problem that I saw was the DB coverage by the guys that weren't in man coverage (zone players). The safeties that were deep (looks like Cover man 2) were still instant turning (you can see the one on the right do it several times). This is going to be a game breaker for any zone coverage, and something that still doesn't appear to be fixed/addressed. Looks like instant turns are still in.
Presentation
Looks good. The one thing that I see which still hasn't been fixed are the quick head jerks (snapping), and then how the camera follows players after a play is over. The camera follows a player (locked in) and because the players movements are fast/jerky, it causes the camera to jerk as well. The camera needs to get a passing shot of the player. Find a player to follow, determine their direction, and then let the camera float that way independently. Even if they lose sight of the player, at least the camera won't jerk back and forth. When the player is no longer in frame, then transition to another player, or to the same player from a different angle.
Game Play
Best game play I have seen in Madden, ever. Pocket's forming, guys are coming off the line correctly (no instant start). Game speed looks good. Coverage looks good.
The pocket is better, but still doesn't look quite right. It might just be that on this play the DT got pressure, but they pushed right up the middle, pretty much negating the pocket feel.
The biggest problem that I saw was the DB coverage by the guys that weren't in man coverage (zone players). The safeties that were deep (looks like Cover man 2) were still instant turning (you can see the one on the right do it several times). This is going to be a game breaker for any zone coverage, and something that still doesn't appear to be fixed/addressed. Looks like instant turns are still in.
Presentation
Looks good. The one thing that I see which still hasn't been fixed are the quick head jerks (snapping), and then how the camera follows players after a play is over. The camera follows a player (locked in) and because the players movements are fast/jerky, it causes the camera to jerk as well. The camera needs to get a passing shot of the player. Find a player to follow, determine their direction, and then let the camera float that way independently. Even if they lose sight of the player, at least the camera won't jerk back and forth. When the player is no longer in frame, then transition to another player, or to the same player from a different angle.
Does anyone besides me wish that Madden moments were the actual games, instead of situational scenarios? I don't want to play the last 2 minutes of the game. I want to play the game itself.
There's still no momentum. Watch Holmes cut up the field on a dime. I'm really hoping that's something that's just still not in the game yet. If, after the blog and all the focus on tuning turn speeds and acceleration, this is the final, I will be pretty disappointed.
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NYyankz225 @ 05/18/09 01:51 PM
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i enjoyed the new gameplay! cant wait for this!! definitely a midnight release for me
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Other than that the video looks good!
Everyone has already listed most of my complaints about the vid so there's no need to go over them again, but PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! SHOW THE DEFENSIVE SKILLED PLAYERS NAMES BEFORE SNAP!!!!!!! Better yet, you can show all of the defensive players names before snap if you like.
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