06:32 PM - July 18, 2011 by Steve_OS
Donny Moore recently announced four players in Madden NFL 12 rated at 99. Are they overrated? Who do you feel should be rated this high?
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06:32 PM - July 18, 2011 by Steve_OSDonny Moore recently announced four players in Madden NFL 12 rated at 99. Are they overrated? Who do you feel should be rated this high?
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Nnandi and Revis are both special players.
Using 2009 as an example, Revis covered all number 1 WRs on the opposing team and when he was thrown at, QBs had a rating of about 32.0. That was Brady to Moss, Schaub to Johnson, Manning to Wayne (for one half), Ryan to White, Matt Moore to Steve Smith, Brees to whomever Revis covered that day, etc. Revis was thrown at as much as any CB in the league and held those combos to a rating of 32.0. Was he helped by a good pass rush? Yes, but those numbers are ludicrous. He made those guys worse than Jamarcus Russell.
Now also in 2009, Nnandi was thrown at less than 2 times per game (Revis saw over 120 passes his way) . Nnadi was right around 30 throws his way. That's legitimately shutting down half the field. Obviously other teams were showing him serious respect because he's that good.
I just think Revis is a once in a generation talent to do what he is doing in the most pass happy time in league history.
And for the record, Routt had an outstanding season last year. He should have a high rating.
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..GameOver.. @ 07/22/11 02:20 PM
I replied to a post made on the first page so I quickly deleted this since it is probably irrelevant at this point.
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Compared to Brady, who only threw 4 INTs all season, had more TDs than Manning, had a yard more per attempt than Manning. Brady had one of the greatest seasons of QB play all time and was throwing to guys like Wes Welker, Danny Woodhead, and two rookie TEs.
Manning is overrated. Ed Reed, I agree, should be a 99.
My bro and I have been playing a 2 man franchise on madden 09 ps2 for the last couple of years. If memory serves we are in year 7 and I alone have something like 8 or 9 players ranked 99, he has about the same. Probably another 20-30 in the league. I think 5 or 6 Qb's are 99 etc. I Hope the progression in madden 12 limits it so after a few years we aren't overloaded with talent. Way better to get a 99 on your roster an feel like you really have a special player imo
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Aso is a great player, bar none the 2nd best cover corner in the league, but Revis in what I have seen is simply at a different level. He's that good imo. I thought he was off a bit early last year, but the holdout and a hamstring injury I think put him behind, but he seemed to get stronger as the season progressed.
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I've seen him now twice frustrate Vincent Jackson like no other including Aso, and he did a number on Andre Johnson unlike I have ever seen.
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Again the Jets play a TON of zero coverage. Or basically man/free rolled to Cromartie's side. But they have so much confidence in the two CB's they play zero coverage a lot. How do you think they are able to run those overload, and underneath zone blitzes?
The notion that Revis gets a ton of safety help is false. Their front's and blitzes are exotic, but their coverage in the secondary is pretty vanilla. You'll see a robber techinque occasionally, but that defense is predicated on pressue man coverage on the perimeter which allows them to overwhelm the offensive line with numbers.
Not sure what you're basing Aso being better than Revis on, other than some coverage stats.
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I've seen Revis do things to opposing WR's that I have not seen anyone else do. I have seen up close and personal him frustrate Vincent Jackson more than once, I have seen Jackson make plays vs. Aso.
I saw him do things to Andre Johnson I have never seen.
Aso is a great player, I just don't see how he's better than Revis, as someone else said, Revis to me is a once in a generation player.
If he didn't play for the Raiders I doubt we have this conversation.
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Have you ever watched a Jets game? I don't think you really understand what they do on defense.
If you want to believe your opinion as fact as well, more power to you. If you want to believe you know more than I, again more power to you.
Imo, Revis is the best CB and possibly the best defender in the league. Until I see otherwise I'll stick with that.
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In your opinion Aso is better. You're welcome to that. I simply disagree. I've seen both play, a lot and live. Given what I know of the position and how those defenses deploy them I'll take Revis any day of the week. Maybe it's just me. If it is, I am ok with that..
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There's no reason to get upset when others don't agree with your opinion.
I want to jump in on this, I read a lot of profootballfocus.com and they do "in-depth" film analysis and give out grades.
So, you say Aso is an excellent tackler, these paragraphs:
"One name that jumps out at the lower end of the spectrum is that of free agent supertarget, Nnamdi Asomugha, who has missed 20 tackles, which is one in every 5.5 he has attempted. I’ve had brief discussions with people before on this topic and so I didn’t want to leave it with just the raw numbers – I wanted to look a little further into Asomugha’s misses.
13 of his 20 misses were against running backs on designed running plays, including all of his 2010 misses. I’ve heard it suggested that this is a result of Asomugha not being asked to support the run, and so he is often out of position and approaching the tackle from poor angles or positions, but that isn’t really the case. In the majority of times, he’s in position, but simply can’t make the stop. Six of the misses were in the passing game against receivers, but perhaps the most damning miss came from 2008 when he was stiff-armed to the ground by a scrambling Jay Cutler."
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...ts-and-worsts/
say otherwise.
you say Revis has been had in coverage, and while that is somewhat true in the beginning of 2010, this article:
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...is-overlooked/
details that by the end of 2010 Revis once again #1. Asomugha is amazing, but he's not Revis, he's not too far off of Revis though.
So, you say Aso is an excellent tackler, these paragraphs:
"One name that jumps out at the lower end of the spectrum is that of free agent supertarget, Nnamdi Asomugha, who has missed 20 tackles, which is one in every 5.5 he has attempted. I’ve had brief discussions with people before on this topic and so I didn’t want to leave it with just the raw numbers – I wanted to look a little further into Asomugha’s misses.
13 of his 20 misses were against running backs on designed running plays, including all of his 2010 misses. I’ve heard it suggested that this is a result of Asomugha not being asked to support the run, and so he is often out of position and approaching the tackle from poor angles or positions, but that isn’t really the case. In the majority of times, he’s in position, but simply can’t make the stop. Six of the misses were in the passing game against receivers, but perhaps the most damning miss came from 2008 when he was stiff-armed to the ground by a scrambling Jay Cutler."
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...ts-and-worsts/
say otherwise.
you say Revis has been had in coverage, and while that is somewhat true in the beginning of 2010, this article:
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...is-overlooked/
details that by the end of 2010 Revis once again #1. Asomugha is amazing, but he's not Revis, he's not too far off of Revis though.
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However the notion that CB's cant tackle RB's is laughable. CB's are used in a run force role in today's defenses more than ever thanks to the proliferation of the cover 2 and zone combo defenses.
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10 char.
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Champ Bailey and Aso are complete corners I've seen both make amzing one on one tackles vs RB,WR etc...
The only reason I haven't put Revis in yet is because he hasn't done it for long enough.
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