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EagleFan
02-18-2011, 09:26 AM
Werewolf meets The Amazing Race. The players will be split into teams. Each player will have various abilities that will help them during the competition. Werewolf mechanics come into play as well as Team Play.

The size of the teams will be determined by the number of players. The wolves will be randomly chosen after the teams are chosen (the two selections will have no impact on each other).

There will be two deadlines. The first will be for the daily competitions (the race). The second will be for the lynch votes / night orders.

I will post more details when the time is available (at work but wanted to get the signups started so that we won't have much time between the games).

EagleFan
02-18-2011, 09:26 AM
The Stages

Competition Stage

The competition stage will be the actual race. The race will be determined based upon the orders submitted by each team and will play out accordingly.

Each compeition stage will consist of a travel stage, a detour stage and a roadblock stage. For the competition stage that day the team will decide how much of the remaining "extra" energy to use, how many of the team's "aggression" to use and based upon the "clues" decide which detour to chose and who will perform the roadblock.

The team that finishes last in a stage may be eliminated from the race (pending randomly determined non-elimination legs). If your team is eliminated and you have not been lynched or "night killed" you will remain in the werewolf portion of the game. You will travel with the crew and stay with the remaining teams a the pitstops for the lynch vote and "nights". A player will only be completely eliminated if their team has been eliminated and they have been lynched or "night killed".

Travel

Each team may submit a plan for the travel stage. Aggression points used by each team will play into how the travel stage plays out. This stage will consist of getting to each section of the race and to the pitstop for that leg of the race. There is no "perfect plan" to use for this stage as teams may submit their own plan of action for what they want to attempt to do during the travel stage of the leg. Be creative and successful and it will pay off. Be too foolish and your team will lag behind.

Detour

There will be two choices for the detour. Each team may chose which choce they want to attempt and a plan for how to accomplish the task. Choosing the right path here may the differnence between winning and losing a stage.

Roadblock

A clue will be given for the day's roadblock. Based on that clue each team will chose one player to participate in the task. The player may chose how much of their extra effor to put forth on that stage. The result will be solely based upon the player's skill and effort used.

Skills

Each player will have skills rated in each of the following:

Travel: How well the player can travel and find a destination.

Eating: How well a player can handle eating foods, including those that are of the less than savory variety.

Water: How well the player can handle water type of events.

Physical: How well theplayer can handle the physical challenges along the race.

Mental: How well a player can handle mental challenges along the race.

Winning the Race

The first team to cross the final finish line first will be the winner for this portion of the game.


Werewolf Stage

The werewolf stage is like any other werewolf game. Lynch votes and night actions will occur.

Lynch

The player with the most votes will be lynched. A player that is lynched will be removed from the werewolf portion of the game but may participate in the Race as long as his (or her) team remains in the race. A player will only be compleely rmoved from the game once they are lynched (or "night killed") and their team is eliminated.

"Night Kill"

The team of wolves are actually a group of moles that have been planted by a rival reality show. Each night they may attempt to "convince" another player that they do not want to give it their all while playing ths game. They hope to lower the show's ratings and allow their rival show to become the best reality show on television, as far as ratings go. If they are successful their target for the night will lose all of their extra effort points and advances skills and will play the game out only with their brain. They may still participate with their team for as long as their team is still in the race and may stll be used for roadblocks and other strategy.

Tie Vote

A tied lynch vote will lead to no "lynch" and additionally there will be no night actions performed by either side.

Upon "Death"

Upon either a lynch or night kill a player's role and side will be revealed (participant or mole). They will only be completely out of both portions of the game if their team has already been eliminated. Players are free to continue to participate in all discussions within the thread until they are eliminated from both portions of the game.

Winning the Game

The wolves (moles) win the werewolf portion of the game if they achieve a 1:1 ratio. The network wins of the contestants can "lynch" all the moles.

Competition Deadline: 9 PM EST

Lynch/Night Order Deadline: 10 PM EST


Sides & Roles

The Network

All contestants that are not moles are on the side of the network. Thy are playing the game because they love it and want to see it continue (and of course because they want to get paid). There will be some network insiders planted within the cast as well. The number of insiders will depend upon the number of overall players. The following roles may be in the game as network insiders.

Talent Specialist - The talent specialist has an eye for what someone may be able todo or how they may appeal to the masses. Each night the Talent Specialist may research one player and learn if they are truly in it to win it (seer).

Promotion Specialist - The promotion specialist knows how to promote the show and how to get everyone pumped up about the show. The promotion specialist may select one patron each night to promote the show's qualities to. If the player that he has chosen is not a mole and is the target of the moles that night the player will not be talked into giving up on the show and will continue to play with all of their abilities (bodyguard).

Network Executive - The network executive has the ear of the network president and will be able to, once during the game, change the result of the "lynch" vote (duke).

Network or Mole

The following roles could be had by either a mole or network player.

Russell Wannabe - This player is a wannabe ruthless player. As long as this player is still "alive" in the werewolf portion of the game they may once setup a "Yield" on a leg of the race. This player will know the details of setting up a yield. The yield is not guaranteed to help the team and could backfire.

Rob Wannabe - This player is a glory hog and wants to be on reality shows as many times as is humanly possible. If this player is still alive in the werewolf portion of the game (and his/her team is still in the race) the Rob wannabe may once setup a fast forward on a leg of a race. Much like the yield, this is not guaranteed to help his/her team and could backfire.

The Sponsor - You love the money gained from advertising on the show and want the show to last longer. While there are already a couple pre determined non-elimination legs you have the ability to select another leg to be one as well (as long as you are still "alive" in the werewolf portion of the game).

Mole

The moles are the wolves of this game. They are playing the game and trying to convince the "non-moles" that they no longer want to "give it their all".

The Admiral - You are the leader of the pack. This power allows you to "take someone with you" if you are lynched and you will convince someone to give up their effort and no longer try their best at the race (brutal).

Cindy - Hey molie molie mole... you are a mole and it shows but everyone is so focused on the mole that they can't see that you are a mole. You will look like a regular contestant. (cunning)

Vanilla Mole - Standard vanilla mole (vanilla wolf). There could be more than one.

EagleFan
02-18-2011, 09:27 AM
Team One - The best friends from high school - eliminated from the race leg 3
Darth Vilus
bhlloy

Team Two - The couple hoping that the race brings them back together - eliminated from the race leg 5
MartinD
saldana

Team Three - The young couple testing the strength of their relationship - eliminated from the race leg 6
Lathum
The Jackal

Team Four - The alternate lifestyle couple - eliminated from the race leg 7
JAG
mckerney

Team Five - The father/son team trying to reconnect
CrimsonFox
GoldenEagle

Team Six - The Reality Show / Attention Whores that are now on their 10th reality show - eliminated from the race leg 8
mauboy1
Danny

Team Seven - The elderly friends who knew each other for 50 years and want to prove that age is just a number - eliminated from the race leg 2
Zinto
Passacaglia


Team Eight - The retired sports heros looking for another moment in the spotlight
Autumn
ntndeacon

Team Nine - The intense fans of the show who have memorized every moment of the show since it began - eliminated from the race leg 4
cougarfreak
PackerFanatic

Team Ten - The girl power team
Chief Rum
hoopsguy

Race Events
Leg One Begins!!! (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2429407&postcount=110)
Leg Two Announced... (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2430435&postcount=366)

EagleFan
02-18-2011, 09:27 AM
Signups:

1) Autumn - vanilla villager & The Sponsor (night six kill)
2) CrimsonFox - vanilla villager (night two kill)
3) Passacaglia - Cindy (cunning) (day seven lynch)
4) mckerney - Network Executive (duke) (night eight kill)
5) PackerFanatic - vanilla vilager (day nine lynch)
6) mauboy1 - vanilla mole (day three lynch)
7) Darth Vilus - Talent Specialist (seer) (night three kill)
8) JAG - vanilla mole (day six lynch)
9) Lathum - Promotion Specialist (day four "unblockable" unlocked bonus)
10) ntndeacon - vanilla villager
11) bhlloy - vanilla villager (night five kill)
12) cougarfreak - The Admiral (brutal)
13) saldana - vanilla village (night four kill)
14) Zinto - vanilla villager (day four lynch)
15) Danny - vanilla villager (day five lynch)
16) Chief Rum - vanilla villager (day eight lynch)
17) hoopsguy - vanilla villager & Rob Wannabe (night nine kill)
18) MartinD - vanilla mole & Russell Wannabe (day one lynch)
19) GoldenEagle - vanilla villager (night seven kill)
20) The Jackal - vanilla villager (day two lynch)

Completely Eliminated
Darth Vilus
Zinto
MartinD
saldana
bhlloy
Lathum
The Jackal
JAG
Passacaglia
Danny
mauboy1
mckerney

Autumn
02-18-2011, 09:29 AM
Me first, me first!

Lathum
02-18-2011, 09:37 AM
how important will it be to be online at the competiton deadline?

Will you need to know the results of the competion for voting purposed?

Basically 6-7 is the worst time of the day for me so trying to determine if I can make that work.

EagleFan
02-18-2011, 09:51 AM
how important will it be to be online at the competiton deadline?

Will you need to know the results of the competion for voting purposed?

Basically 6-7 is the worst time of the day for me so trying to determine if I can make that work.

It's basically two games in one. The race portion can be affected by the wolves but the vote deadline will play out like any other werewolf lynch deadline. Conditional orders can be sent in for that deadline and orders for the first deadline can be sent in at any time by anyone on your team.

EagleFan
02-18-2011, 09:53 AM
dola: It's basically going to be similar to the Olympic game that I ran last year (except teams will be racing each other similar to Amazing Race).

The Amazing Race part will be the atmosphere.

Going to try to add bits of information about various "locations" in which you will be "travelling".

CrimsonFox
02-18-2011, 10:45 AM
in.

Oh yeah and barkeep is in too :D

Passacaglia
02-18-2011, 12:31 PM
dola: It's basically going to be similar to the Olympic game that I ran last year (except teams will be racing each other similar to Amazing Race).

The Amazing Race part will be the atmosphere.

Going to try to add bits of information about various "locations" in which you will be "travelling".

In. Funny that you mentioned the Olympic game -- I was just cleaning out my PMs, and most of them were from that game. I read through the PMs, then read the thread, which was a lot of fun:

WW 109 - Hungry for Gold (Game Over, Wolves Win, Team USA Wins) - Front Office Football Central (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=76750)

mckerney
02-18-2011, 12:39 PM
I'm in.

PackerFanatic
02-18-2011, 12:50 PM
In

mauchow
02-18-2011, 01:21 PM
In as well. Glad I've got internet on phone to keep up with most of the stuff.

Darth Vilus
02-18-2011, 01:27 PM
in

JAG
02-18-2011, 01:46 PM
Sounds fun. In.

EagleFan
02-18-2011, 02:24 PM
Looks like a nice start to the signups. As I mentioned, I will post more information tonight about the game, rules and roles.

Lathum
02-18-2011, 02:29 PM
In

ntndeacon
02-18-2011, 04:36 PM
in

bhlloy
02-18-2011, 04:38 PM
I've been following these games for a while now and if you'll accept first timers, I'd like to give this a go

EagleFan
02-18-2011, 05:16 PM
I've been following these games for a while now and if you'll accept first timers, I'd like to give this a go

Welcome aboard. Always happy to have new players.

EagleFan
02-18-2011, 05:52 PM
Added some of the rules; will continue to add rules and roles throughout the next day or so.

Basically it is a two part game. The Race and the Werewolf side. You may participate until you are eliminated from both sides.

I hope this adds a different flare to the game. Roles will lose their abilities once they are eliminated in the werewolf portion. They still my post and participate in the discussion until completely eliminated. It will be a challenge to balance out the werewolf side of the game because of this but I think that I have added enough to both sides to be able to balance this out.

I am taking what I did with the Olympics and took it a little farther (I think).

Darth Vilus
02-19-2011, 01:01 AM
i assume the teams will be in pairs just like the show?

CrimsonFox
02-19-2011, 02:15 AM
LOL! Eaglefan. when I read your rules, I hear Phil Keoghan's voice in my head! :)

Poli
02-19-2011, 06:55 AM
Sounds like fun. I'll be watching. :)

cougarfreak
02-19-2011, 07:10 AM
I'll get in, sounds fun.

saldana
02-19-2011, 10:08 AM
in

Lathum
02-19-2011, 10:18 AM
can we pick our teammates?

EagleFan
02-19-2011, 12:19 PM
i assume the teams will be in pairs just like the show?

Most likely but it depends upon the number of players.

can we pick our teammates?

I was thinking of going that route but I thought random would be the best way to go; I think that will even help in the long run (clique avoidance).

EagleFan
02-19-2011, 12:50 PM
Added the roles to the second post.

Lathum
02-19-2011, 01:54 PM
I was thinking of going that route but I thought random would be the best way to go; I think that will even help in the long run (clique avoidance).

My only concern with that is it may be easier on the teams if people can be paired whose schedules work well together. It may not be fair to put 2 west coasters together for example.

EagleFan
02-19-2011, 01:59 PM
My only concern with that is it may be easier on the teams if people can be paired whose schedules work well together. It may not be fair to put 2 west coasters together for example.

Understood. But it could still end up that way with picking the teams (those who don't end up getting paired up early) and then if someone gets stuck it will feel like the system worked againt them and for everyone else. In the case of random each person has the same odds of it being good/bad. :)

Zinto
02-19-2011, 02:18 PM
Sounds fun I am in

saldana
02-19-2011, 02:57 PM
I've been following these games for a while now and if you'll accept first timers, I'd like to give this a go

awesome...welcome aboard!

Danny
02-19-2011, 02:58 PM
in

Chief Rum
02-19-2011, 03:15 PM
In...troducing Chief Rum to the Amazing Race.

Autumn
02-19-2011, 03:16 PM
Looks like another nice big game. This is awesome.

EagleFan
02-21-2011, 01:53 AM
Added the list of skills which each player will be rated in. Each player will be randomly given skill ratings (all players will have the same total "skill points" but how they are given out will be random. Each player may then chose to add 2 points to their total, to whatever skill they chose.

The race will begin in Las Vegas. But that is the only teaser gven about the race until it starts. :)

EagleFan
02-21-2011, 01:56 AM
The game will begin at some point when the current game ends. At this time we have 16 players which would mean that we have 8 teams. It we could get 22 players and have a full 11 teams that would be great. :) Though 8 teams gives us a good number.

EagleFan
02-21-2011, 02:02 AM
I have no clue (or any inside information) about how long the current game will take to complete but I am guessing that we may be able to start on Wednesday.

I'll start planning for a Wednesday start (with Thursday as day one) which will give everyone a chance to get their strategies together for the race and get their bonus points sent in.

hoopsguy
02-21-2011, 07:09 AM
I generally haven't enjoyed this style of game as much as conventional werewolf - probably my bias against reality TV coming through, to some extent - but I'll give this one a try.

Autumn
02-21-2011, 08:46 AM
I've only seen the show a couple times, could you explain what a Yield or fast Forward would be, in show terms?

EagleFan
02-21-2011, 03:39 PM
I've only seen the show a couple times, could you explain what a Yield or fast Forward would be, in show terms?

In show terms, the fast forward will help a team bypass remaining tasks and go straight to the pit stop for that leg (giving them a nice boost in time).

The Yield may not be the right term anymore (I think it is changed now). It used to be a time penalty given to a team but now it forced a team to do both legs of a detour (thus giving them a potentially really bad time penalty.

EagleFan
02-21-2011, 03:41 PM
I generally haven't enjoyed this style of game as much as conventional werewolf - probably my bias against reality TV coming through, to some extent - but I'll give this one a try.

Welcome. Still going to be a full blown werewolf game going on at the same time (only difference being that it won't be a "kill"). :)

EagleFan
02-21-2011, 03:45 PM
Double dola. The Werewolf game will pretty much be standard with a major exception (that someone voted out may still participate in the discussion, but not the vote, if their race team is not yet eliminated).

Poli
02-22-2011, 09:01 AM
I'm liking this turnout!

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 11:03 AM
Needing one more person and I can start setting up the sides.

MartinD
02-22-2011, 01:12 PM
Room for one more?

The Jackal
02-22-2011, 01:20 PM
Very nice player list. I've been debating signing up or not, thinking I need a bit of a break. If you get a 19th and need me to balance the sides I'll come aboard, otherwise I'll be happy to just read along.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 03:59 PM
Room for one more?

Sure thing, welcome aboard.

GoldenEagle
02-22-2011, 04:27 PM
I have been thinking about playing again. Is it too late for this game? If so, I can just jump in the next one.

Darth Vilus
02-22-2011, 04:42 PM
Damn if GE and jackal come on that'll put us at 20, pretty good size

The Jackal
02-22-2011, 04:42 PM
If you get GE in count me in as well.

Autumn
02-22-2011, 05:15 PM
This surely will be an amazing race.

Poli
02-22-2011, 05:29 PM
:popcorn:

Lathum
02-22-2011, 05:54 PM
I would love for GE to be back in games!

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:16 PM
I have been thinking about playing again. Is it too late for this game? If so, I can just jump in the next one.

Welcome aboard. I'll add you in if you like. Once we get to 20 I'll start it up.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:17 PM
If you get GE in count me in as well.

It wll be so...

I will start sending out the team information tonight.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:19 PM
Going to start sending out the "Amazing Race" team information first. We'll still have day one on Thursday so that everyone involved will have the time to get their added points in and decide how they want to work on day one.

t will also give a full day break between the games.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:27 PM
Have added the last two teams (and have given each team a "bio" so to speak).

After I send out the teams you may come up with a nickname for your team (hopefully keeping in line with the bio :) ).

The Jackal
02-22-2011, 06:36 PM
So the wolves will be able to talk to each other and their race teammates?

The Jackal
02-22-2011, 06:39 PM
Just getting to reading the rules is why I ask, love the team identities, especially since I rarely watch reality shows.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:39 PM
I have randomly drawn the teams (for the Amazing Race part). Will "announce" them here shortly. In the middle of a couple other things going on so I will do the random abilities and send them out a little later this evening and then do the wolves and roles for the werewolf portion of the game.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:40 PM
So the wolves will be able to talk to each other and their race teammates?

Yes

The Jackal
02-22-2011, 06:41 PM
Im excited to find out who my partner is!

The Jackal
02-22-2011, 06:41 PM
And EF, the Flyers are up 1-0!

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:42 PM
The teams for this installment of The Amazing Werewolf Race...

The first team are a pair of friends who have known each other from high school...

Darth Vilus
bhlloy

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:42 PM
And EF, the Flyers are up 1-0!

Sweet!!!

Jackal gets bonus points... :)

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:43 PM
Our second team is a couple who have felt themselves growing apart and hope that this race brings them back together (we have seen how well that plan works)...

MartinD
saldana

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:45 PM
The third team which will attempt to in the One Million Dollhairs first prize is a young couple that has been afraid to take the next step and want to see just how strong their relationship is...

Lathum
The Jackal

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:46 PM
Our alternate lifestyle couple enjoys traveling and feels that their experience traveling in other countries will help them be the team that crosses the final finish line first...

JAG
mckerney

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:47 PM
Our fifth team is a father/son duo that are trying to reconnect after years apart. They want this to be a life changing experience for them both...

CrimsonFox
GoldenEagle

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:48 PM
Everyone will recognize out sixth team as they are appearing on their10th reality show. It seems no matter where a camera is they will find it...

mauboy1
Danny

Lathum
02-22-2011, 06:49 PM
The third team which will attempt to in the One Million Dollhairs first prize is a young couple that has been afraid to take the next step and want to see just how strong their relationship is...

Lathum
The Jackal

Hate the bio, love my partner!!

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:50 PM
Our seventh team hopes that experience and wisdom will beat youth and cockiness. They have known each other for over 50 years and both have amazing life stories to tell and draw from in their attempt to be the first elderly pair to claim the title...

Zinto
Passacaglia

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:50 PM
Hate the bio, love my partner!!

See, the bio works in that case... :)

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:52 PM
Many will reconize the eighth team. They have both lived out the dreams of many on the field and now they want to make one more push for glory on the race. With a combined 8 titles and 4 MVP's one would think they have done it all but they stll have more to do...

Autumn
ntndeacon

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:53 PM
Our next team have been fans of the show since it began. They know very minute of every episode and think that they can use that knowledge to keep from making the same mistakes that many have made in the past....

cougarfreak
PackerFanatic

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:55 PM
Honestly, it was all picked randomly but I love how the two on that last team have freak and fanatic in their names as it fits perfectly with that team. Didn't even notice it until I typed it in for the post either.

Danny
02-22-2011, 06:55 PM
Everyone will recognize out sixth team as they are appearing on their10th reality show. It seems no matter where a camera is they will find it...

mauboy1
Danny

11th time is the charm.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:55 PM
Our final team is the girl power team. They want to show that a pair or women can win this race...

Chief Rum
hoopsguy

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Going to update the team post. About to be doing some online killing in Splinter Cell on the 360 for a few with a friend who just got the game. Will send out the skills tonight in the official team PM's and then randomly draw the wolves and roles and send that out.

I will post when the "official" game begins but the deadlines will be on Thursday for day one.

The Jackal
02-22-2011, 06:58 PM
The third team which will attempt to in the One Million Dollhairs first prize is a young couple that has been afraid to take the next step and want to see just how strong their relationship is...

Lathum
The Jackal

Oh man, the rest of you are screwed!

Autumn
02-22-2011, 07:04 PM
All right, ntn, it's time to get it done. You know you and I know how to win.

Chief Rum
02-22-2011, 07:08 PM
Our final team is the girl power team. They want to show that a pair or women can win this race...

Chief Rum
hoopsguy

Ah damn! Y'all better just give up now!

The Jackal
02-22-2011, 07:14 PM
Ah damn! Y'all better just give up now!

Try not to break a nail, gals

mauchow
02-22-2011, 07:31 PM
11th time is the charm.

High Five!!!!

Darth Vilus
02-22-2011, 07:42 PM
The teams for this installment of The Amazing Werewolf Race...

The first team are a pair of friends who have known each other from high school...

Darth Vilus
bhlloy

Friends til the end, let's do this!

hoopsguy
02-22-2011, 08:05 PM
Well, this should be fun - chicks rule!

JAG
02-22-2011, 08:16 PM
Our alternate lifestyle couple enjoys traveling and feels that their experience traveling in other countries will help them be the team that crosses the final finish line first...

JAG
mckerney

Non-breeders represent, yo. That romantic getaway to Bhutan will prove key to our victory.

PackerFanatic
02-22-2011, 08:38 PM
Honestly, it was all picked randomly but I love how the two on that last team have freak and fanatic in their names as it fits perfectly with that team. Didn't even notice it until I typed it in for the post either.

That's pretty awesome.

Let's do it, cougar!!!

Schmidty
02-22-2011, 08:45 PM
Is it too late for me to join?

mckerney
02-22-2011, 09:01 PM
Non-breeders represent, yo. That romantic getaway to Bhutan will prove key to our victory.

Let's go, This will be fabulous!

CrimsonFox
02-22-2011, 09:03 PM
Our fifth team is a father/son duo that are trying to reconnect after years apart. They want this to be a life changing experience for them both...

CrimsonFox
GoldenEagle


I'm so proud of my boy, GoldenEagle. *sniff* I wasn't there for him and I want to make it up to him. He's got a big heart and *sniff* hopefully he can donate it to me after I have to climb all these stairs.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 09:48 PM
Is it too late for me to join?

If you can round up a teammate before I get the werewolf roles out.

GoldenEagle
02-22-2011, 09:55 PM
I'm so proud of my boy, GoldenEagle. *sniff* I wasn't there for him and I want to make it up to him. He's got a big heart and *sniff* hopefully he can donate it to me after I have to climb all these stairs.

Why can't I be daddy?

Whoa.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 10:05 PM
Sending out the team information. You'll be getting your PM's shortly.

Darth Vilus
02-22-2011, 10:33 PM
Why can't I be daddy?

Whoa.

You're sure you're not the alternative lifestyle team?

CrimsonFox
02-22-2011, 10:36 PM
I can already tell we're going to be the team shown bitching and nagging each other the whole time.

Danny
02-22-2011, 10:39 PM
And I don't even think it will take much editing

Danny
02-22-2011, 10:43 PM
I expect this to go much better than when I was on Survivor.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 10:50 PM
I have sent out the Team PM's for the Race portion of the game. You may begin communicating with your teammate via PM. You may send in what skill you want your 2 points added to at any point up until the first deadline. Once sent there is no changing. If you don't send it in you missout on the 2 points.

To clarify how the race will work. I will roll up results for the events (with times being determined based on results). Skill and effort will give you a better chance to succeed at the events but it is a random roll based upon those numbers so that does not guarantee success (anything can happen in the race).

A combination of the event rolls and the travel rolls will determine which team is in the lead and how far back the other teams are.


(all this and I haven't gotten to the werewolf part yet :))

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 10:52 PM
About to roll the wolf/villager roles.

CrimsonFox
02-22-2011, 10:57 PM
EF, will we know how skills from each partner will effect a final result? Will one person bring the whole team down? Or can one person boost?

Darth Vilus
02-22-2011, 11:00 PM
so say team A puts in like 3 effort and team B doesn't (they're equal on everything else), that doesn't mean that team A will automatically beat team B? Just that they have a better shot at winning?

CrimsonFox
02-22-2011, 11:15 PM
I would think that effort + skill = final number to compare. But if it's an event where both players have to participate, what I'm wondering if only one player's numbers are used or both added together or even each individually.
And each person has effort points.

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 11:33 PM
For events where both players participate (the non road block events) both players' numbers will come into play. The individual skills will come into play even more during the roadblocks where it is just one person performing the task.

To answer DV's question. The numbers given will be a base but there will still be a roll done to determine the results. Basically, being better gives you a better chance to win but nothing is automatic.

To give everyone a baseline on the skills. Everyone had 20 points randomly distributed between the 5 skills (the average skill would be 4). There is no max per se (though it is 16 as the minimum for each skill is 1 so in theory one could have 1,1,1,1,16).

ntndeacon
02-22-2011, 11:34 PM
All right, ntn, it's time to get it done. You know you and I know how to win.

Props to the pros!

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 11:36 PM
Werewolf Game On!!!

All roles have been sent. We will have a two day period for day one with the first deadline being 9:00 PM EST on Thursday for the first leg of the race (will announce that shortly).

The lynch vore deadline is 10:00 PM EST on Thursday.

Nothing will happen in the race which should affect the lynch voting (no special WW related roles). The only reason for the split deadlines is just to give me time to write up the race results and still giving a timeline for the lynch voting.

What is the over/under on the number of times that I have to clear my inbox in this game?

ntndeacon
02-22-2011, 11:39 PM
I am thinking 5 Eagle

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 11:44 PM
The teams stand in a line along "The Strip" in Vegas with the famous Welcome to Las Vegas sign as a backdrop. The race is on!!!

As you stand on the Strip in Vegas you are given the following instructions...

You are beginning at The Sign in Las Vegas. You must get to LAX and fly to your next destination. You are given a clue on where you are to fly. It is a picture of Christ the Redeemer (Cristo Redentor).

You have a clue to the Detour.

Dig it out: A simulated gold digging/panning challenge. Requires physical.
- A dig site has been created in which gold can be panned from the site
- Using traditional gold pan techniques the team must find 8 ounces of gold
- Could take a while if digging in the wrong location (random)
- Closer to the pit stop if you can finish quickly it can be an advantage.

Pump it out: Deliver a load of gasoline to a specified location. Requires Mental and Travel.
- Teams will start at a given location where loaded trucks will be stationed.
- Need to get from that location to an address that will be found inside the truck.
- Get to that location and deliver the gas (pump).
- Travel time required and finding an address but if a team can find their location quickly it could be a big advantage.


You have a clue to the Roadblock.
Who feels like they have stopping power? Requires Physical.



Teams Begin!!!!

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 11:47 PM
Please let me know if there are any questions. There is a lot to this game so I expect there to be many questions as we start.

I am going to approach this just like some of the dungeon crawls. The more details that your team gives me about how you want to approach the leg the better it may turn out for you.

Danny
02-22-2011, 11:48 PM
Mauboy and I are the seers. We scanned each other and both came back awesome!

EagleFan
02-22-2011, 11:58 PM
Las Vegas Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Vegas,_Nevada)

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/1509754-Las_Vegas-Las_Vegas.jpg

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 12:06 AM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aKUxVtrEQ1s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 12:09 AM
<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fpiAeFG49J4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

bhlloy
02-23-2011, 12:11 AM
Friends til the end, let's do this!

Let's go... glad to be aboard

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 12:14 AM
Going to get some sleep. I'll check in tomorrow to see if thee are any questions.

ImTheCrew
02-23-2011, 12:24 AM
Can i join?

Danny
02-23-2011, 02:35 AM
Is the following from the night kill portion ". If they are successful their target for the night will lose all of their extra effort points and advances skills and will play the game out only with their brain." also applicable to lynches?

Danny
02-23-2011, 02:39 AM
On the werewolf side of things, with 20 players, 15-5 setup is usually most common. However, since there is only 3 villager roles, 16-4 is possible.

Danny
02-23-2011, 02:54 AM
The teams stand in a line along "The Strip" in Vegas with the famous Welcome to Las Vegas sign as a backdrop. The race is on!!!

As you stand on the Strip in Vegas you are given the following instructions...

You are beginning at The Sign in Las Vegas. You must get to LAX and fly to your next destination. You are given a clue on where you are to fly. It is a picture of Christ the Redeemer (Cristo Redentor).

You have a clue to the Detour.
Dig it out: A simulated gold digging/panning challenge. Requires physical.
Pump it out: Deliver a load of gasoline to a specified location. Requires Mental and Travel.

You have a clue to the Roadblock.
Who feels like they have stopping power? Requires Physical.



Teams Begin!!!!

Wow, my 8 physical should come in handy then. Too bad my travel is so low :(

Danny
02-23-2011, 02:58 AM
EF, I've never seen the show. For instructions, would be doing something like this?

Danny decides to dig out the clue to the detour. Afterwards, Danny used physical to get roadblock clue. Then both Danny and Mauboy fly to the bahamas?

JAG
02-23-2011, 04:34 AM
EF, I've never seen the show. For instructions, would be doing something like this?

Danny decides to dig out the clue to the detour. Afterwards, Danny used physical to get roadblock clue. Then both Danny and Mauboy fly to the bahamas?

Having never seen the show, I'd also like to know this.

Passacaglia
02-23-2011, 07:41 AM
Our seventh team hopes that experience and wisdom will beat youth and cockiness. They have known each other for over 50 years and both have amazing life stories to tell and draw from in their attempt to be the first elderly pair to claim the title...

Zinto
Passacaglia

Ah yes, my old buddy. What was your name again...Zanto?

PackerFanatic
02-23-2011, 07:50 AM
Are we allowed to split the 2 extra points?

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 08:36 AM
Can i join?

Sorry, the game has begun. Would love to have you for another game though if you want to join the next one.

Is the following from the night kill portion ". If they are successful their target for the night will lose all of their extra effort points and advances skills and will play the game out only with their brain." also applicable to lynches?

Yes, it counts for anyone that has been "removed" from the werewolf portion of the game. A villager may still post in thread and PM with their Race teammate after they are eliminated from there werewolf portion if their Race team is still alive in the game. A wolf may still PM with his Race team and even his wolf buddies afgter being removed from the werewolf portion of the game as long as his Race team is still alive as well. Once a player is eliminated from both halves they are then completely out of the game.

EF, I've never seen the show. For instructions, would be doing something like this?

Danny decides to dig out the clue to the detour. Afterwards, Danny used physical to get roadblock clue. Then both Danny and Mauboy fly to the bahamas?

That would be acceptable. It's up to the team to determine just how detailed they want to be. I am hoping to make it like the dungeon crawl and teams may learn more as they play about just how much detail is good and what may or may not help.

Are we allowed to split the 2 extra points?

Sorry, this one is all on one skill for the 2 points.

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 08:45 AM
Teams may copy me in their PM's. It is entirely up to them.

For my entertainment value I encourage it. :)

Note to wolves, be careful which team you are responding to as you may have two different "teams" to respond to.

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 10:42 AM
Clarification:

The deadline for 9 PM EST tomorrow night is for all orders for the leg. Give as many details as you would like and I will process accordingly. You won't know until you see the writeup just what the various challenges involve but feel free to give details of how you want to try to position yourselves in the game (when you purchase tickets, how you want to approach getting from one location to another, do you want to helop another team or hinder them, etc...).

I am going to add a few more details to the detours so that you may plan those challenges (the roadblocks will still be a bit of a mystery).

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 10:47 AM
The teams stand in a line along "The Strip" in Vegas with the famous Welcome to Las Vegas sign as a backdrop. The race is on!!!

As you stand on the Strip in Vegas you are given the following instructions...

You are beginning at The Sign in Las Vegas. You must get to LAX and fly to your next destination. You are given a clue on where you are to fly. It is a picture of Christ the Redeemer (Cristo Redentor).

You have a clue to the Detour.

Dig it out: A simulated gold digging/panning challenge. Requires physical.
- A dig site has been created in which gold can be panned from the site
- Using traditional gold pan techniques the team must find 8 ounces of gold
- Could take a while if digging in the wrong location (random)
- Closer to the pit stop if you can finish quickly it can be an advantage.

Pump it out: Deliver a load of gasoline to a specified location. Requires Mental and Travel.
- Teams will start at a given location where loaded trucks will be stationed.
- Need to get from that location to an address that will be found inside the truck.
- Get to that location and deliver the gas (pump).
- Travel time required and finding an address but if a team can find their location quickly it could be a big advantage.


You have a clue to the Roadblock.
Who feels like they have stopping power? Requires Physical.



Teams Begin!!!!

Added to the challenge information above.

Passacaglia
02-23-2011, 11:30 AM
Just to make sure I have this right, we're submitting:

Travel Plan -- detailed description of where we're going and how we're getting there
Detour -- Choose one team member and which activity they perform
Roadblock -- Choose one team member

Or am I missing stuff?

The Jackal
02-23-2011, 11:32 AM
So can one team member do both the detour and the roadblock or does it have to be split up?

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 11:36 AM
Just to make sure I have this right, we're submitting:

Travel Plan -- detailed description of where we're going and how we're getting there
Detour -- Choose one team member and which activity they perform
Roadblock -- Choose one team member

Or am I missing stuff?

Both team members perform the detour, you choose which of the two that you want to try.

For the roadblock you select one team member to perform.

You can give details for the travel and attempt to add details for approaching the other challenges as well.

Zinto
02-23-2011, 12:17 PM
Ah yes, my old buddy. What was your name again...Zanto?


With our wisdom and experience the only thing that can stop us from winning is how much we love to nap.

Danny
02-23-2011, 01:26 PM
Or death

Passacaglia
02-23-2011, 01:53 PM
Death is not an option.

Lathum
02-23-2011, 02:09 PM
so any thoughts on D1 voting strategies or are people just going to do the usual random thing?

Autumn
02-23-2011, 02:10 PM
Well I imagine the major difference will be nobody's going to vote their teammate. I don't see anything smart we can do though.

CrimsonFox
02-23-2011, 02:14 PM
Death before Disco

Autumn
02-23-2011, 02:22 PM
We'll have to hope we don't end up with a wolf/wolf team, as that would be hard to find through any voting records, since everyone will be protecting their teammate. I have a couple thoughts about what wolves might get up to, but I'm going to wait and use it to vote if I see it rather than give them a warning.

Darth Vilus
02-23-2011, 02:26 PM
Or death

Not even death can stop a Sith Lord

Passacaglia
02-23-2011, 02:34 PM
so any thoughts on D1 voting strategies or are people just going to do the usual random thing?

Mine won't be random.

I'll be voting for the name at the top of the sign-up list.

:D

CrimsonFox
02-23-2011, 02:35 PM
Mine won't be random.

I'll be voting for the name at the top of the sign-up list.

:D

The spirit of Poli lives on...

cougarfreak
02-23-2011, 02:55 PM
That's pretty awesome.

Let's do it, cougar!!!

Amen! Let's win the whole thing!

mckerney
02-23-2011, 02:56 PM
Mine won't be random.

I'll be voting for the name at the top of the sign-up list.

:D

*Checks to make sure I'm not the one at the top of the list.*

That sounds like a pretty good idea!

Autumn
02-23-2011, 03:08 PM
Mine won't be random.

I'll be voting for the name at the top of the sign-up list.

:D

Sure, punish the eager.

ntndeacon
02-23-2011, 03:37 PM
Mine won't be random.

I'll be voting for the name at the top of the sign-up list.

:D

I think we should vote third from the top of the sign up list!

:D

JAG
02-23-2011, 03:40 PM
so any thoughts on D1 voting strategies or are people just going to do the usual random thing?

Did you have something interesting in mind? For me, unless I see something unusual and suspicious (which doesn't normally happen), I usually (when I played regularly) tend to vote those who:

1. Don't contribute much (I like to discuss strategy)
2. Aren't too new (one day pass)
3. Made it deep into the last game / didn't die early in the last game (sense of fairness for D1 anyway)

Since people who are lynched can still play along in this game, my list loses some relevance.

JAG
02-23-2011, 04:38 PM
EF, will we know when a leg is an elimination one?

ntndeacon
02-23-2011, 05:32 PM
I am guessing we won't know the non elimination legs... That is how it happens on the show. (or used to)

Lathum
02-23-2011, 05:47 PM
Did you have something interesting in mind? For me, unless I see something unusual and suspicious (which doesn't normally happen), I usually (when I played regularly) tend to vote those who:

1. Don't contribute much (I like to discuss strategy)
2. Aren't too new (one day pass)
3. Made it deep into the last game / didn't die early in the last game (sense of fairness for D1 anyway)

Since people who are lynched can still play along in this game, my list loses some relevance.

I don't. I look at the teams and there are definently some I would like to see eliminated, but I keep forgetting it is 2 different dynamics.

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 07:28 PM
EF, will we know when a leg is an elimination one?

I am guessing we won't know the non elimination legs... That is how it happens on the show. (or used to)

It won't be known ahead of time. Except for the Sponsor who may pick a leg to be non-elimination. That person will know that leg.

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 07:31 PM
Clarification to the Wannabes and the Sponsor. When you select which leg to use your ablity you will be selecting it for the next leg. Example: if you submit it for this deadline the leg that is affected would be the second leg.

It will be known that it has been enacted.

You may submit conditional orders for it (such as, if your team is position x or higher at the end this leg enact it for the next leg).

cougarfreak
02-23-2011, 08:48 PM
All I know is I'm totally lost. I think I may regret not ever watching Amazing Race. Should be fun and confusing.

Autumn
02-23-2011, 09:57 PM
This is probably belaboring the obvious, but I want to make sure I understand. Position from one leg carries over to the next one, right? So if you come in second to last in one leg, you'll be starting the next leg with some sort of delay compared to the others?

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 10:18 PM
This is probably belaboring the obvious, but I want to make sure I understand. Position from one leg carries over to the next one, right? So if you come in second to last in one leg, you'll be starting the next leg with some sort of delay compared to the others?

Correct.

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 10:46 PM
Since there are still questions about the game I ill post a little "The Amazing Race 101" (WW style).

Below is a simplified example of what a leg will be like and how the game will play out from leg to leg.


- Start at checkpoint A.
-- You will start from the final location of the previous leg.

- You need to travel to destination B.
-- Tell me if you want to try anything special to get to that location. "Team up with Team X; go to the airport together; get tickets" (sample, you can give more or less as it is up to you)

- Detour
-- This will consist of two choices. Each choice may have an upside or downside and I will list which skills will help the most.
-- Both players on the team participate but you will choose which detour to attempt.
-- Sample: Row your boat or Peddle your bike. Either boat across a channel or take a bike across the bridge and find he destination. Option A uses physical and water skills while option B uses Physical and Travel skills.
-- Instruct what to do. "Team X will Row the boat as we are good with water tasks. Use X in extra effort (A from player 1 and B from player 2) for this challenge to help us gain more of an advantage."

- Roadblock
-- A roadblock will be an event that only one member of your team will perform.
-- A clue will be given but not all details revealed but the best skill for it will be listed in the clue (there may be others that will help but the primary will always be listed).
-- Select which player to participate.
-- Sample: Strike it out (physical). "Team X selects player 2 to perform the task and he will use Y in extra effort."
-- Result: The player had to bowl a strike.

- Get to the pitstop
-- Each leg ends at a pitstop. You need to get there. Travel will be the biggest asset but use your creativity as well.
-- Sample: Pitstop - Top of the empire state building
-- "Team X will use Y aggression to get to the pit stop (your team will be extra ruthless in their attempt to get their first; more depending on how much aggression is used)."


Each of the events will be rolled (including the travel) and based upon skills you will have a better chance to perform well (though anythng can happen). A time will be assigned to the rolls and attempts and added for each team. Additionally there is an X factor that I will take into account for a team's creativity in their writeup (like the dungeon crawl used, I am assuming). The X factor could be good or bad (if the clue is to go to the statue of liberty and you tell me to travel to Philly to go there; this would not be good).

At the end of each round the results will be displayed as a leaderboard. The final team to check in "may" be eliminated (most legs result in elimination). The final leg will include the final three teams. There will be at least 2 pre determined non elimination legs.

1st - Team B
2nd - Team C (+0:05)
3rd - Team F (+0:15)
4th - Team A (+0:20)
...
10th - Team H (+2:15) - eliminated

There are two other events which could occur.

Yield (I think this is now called a speed bump in the game as I am using it). If this is put into play a team that arrives at the detour first may select a team to use it on. If that team has not arrived at the detour yet they will have to perform both tasks before they can continue.

Fast Forward. If this is put into play a team can select to go for the fast forward before going to the frst event of the leg. If they are the first team to complete the fast forward they can go straight to the pit stop.

EagleFan
02-23-2011, 11:08 PM
One final thing. Each leg will need to be submitted in full for a team. Using the clues given for the leg. There will be just one deadline for each leg (all challenges need to be submitted for that deadline and I will process accordingly).

It would also make it smoother if the person submitting your team's leg instructions sends in a PM labeled with your team and the leg number that the instructions are for. The smoother it is to sift through those PM's the quicker I will be able to process the results.

Thanks in advance.

Oh, also don't expect there to be any major field leveling bottleneck like in the show. For game color purposes there may be write ups that mention time in an airport or some other location but that will only be for color and doesn't mean that you lost your lead because of a bottleneck.

saldana
02-24-2011, 06:07 AM
so does the actual speed that we get you our orders make a difference, or are they all just processed at the deadline...just wondering since my partner lives 1/4 way around the world from me so we havent even talked yet.

Danny
02-24-2011, 06:44 AM
so any thoughts on D1 voting strategies or are people just going to do the usual random thing?

My strategy will be to not vote my teammate.

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 08:08 AM
so does the actual speed that we get you our orders make a difference, or are they all just processed at the deadline...just wondering since my partner lives 1/4 way around the world from me so we havent even talked yet.

Processed at deadline, speed of turn in doesn't matter.

Autumn
02-24-2011, 09:03 AM
Well someone's got to start some voting. Allow me to look over the list and pick based on some arbitrary thought.

The Jackal
02-24-2011, 09:16 AM
Happy birthday Pass!

PackerFanatic
02-24-2011, 09:18 AM
Do we need to account for the detour or roadblock in our travel plans, or are they considered three separate "actions"?

Autumn
02-24-2011, 09:19 AM
All right, so I'm going to vote JAG. He made it to the end in Vegas, so I don't feel as bad if he gets lynched. And for a long time excellent player, I don't think he gets a lot of early lynch votes, so that also makes me not feel bad.

<b>VOTE JAG</b>

JAG
02-24-2011, 09:41 AM
All right, so I'm going to vote JAG. He made it to the end in Vegas, so I don't feel as bad if he gets lynched. And for a long time excellent player, I don't think he gets a lot of early lynch votes, so that also makes me not feel bad.

<b>VOTE JAG</b>

Are you sure this isn't about my alternative lifestyle?

Passacaglia
02-24-2011, 09:47 AM
Happy birthday Pass!

Thanks man, you too!

Autumn
02-24-2011, 10:12 AM
Are you sure this isn't about my alternative lifestyle?

I support you in your choices. Why, one of my teammates on my world champion team had a nephew who was gay!

But let's face it, you guys don't stand a chance, so it might as well be you taking it for the team.

mauchow
02-24-2011, 10:36 AM
Oh man we have to vote someone today? I hate day one votes. Errrrrmm.. ill post my vote when I pull it through a random generator...

PackerFanatic
02-24-2011, 10:40 AM
I hate reality TV...unless it's Amazing Race, of course...so those "super-fans" of all thing reality must go!

VOTE MAUBOY1

Lathum
02-24-2011, 10:42 AM
I am going to vote

Chief Rum

May get busy today and want to get a vote in. Pretty random vote, made it late last game, good wolf, etc...

mauchow
02-24-2011, 11:32 AM
Oh jeez.. what are the chances? I started out last game voting mckerney.. the generator drew his name so I am cheating and re-drawing a name. Oh and he haplessness to be jags partner too so I don't wanna look like I have something against their lifestyle ! Afterthe re- do the vote goes to .......

vote chief rum

Awwee, my spouse from last game.. lol.. which this of course confirms I wore the pants in that game.... but I guess I didn't.

mauchow
02-24-2011, 11:35 AM
I am going to vote

Chief Rum

May get busy today and want to get a vote in. Pretty random vote, made it late last game, good wolf, etc...

Oh jeez. I had my message all typed up on my phone before you..then a customer walked in and I didn't post it until just now and never refreshed to see if there were other votes.

mauchow
02-24-2011, 11:38 AM
I hate reality TV...unless it's Amazing Race, of course...so those "super-fans" of all thing reality must go!

VOTE MAUBOY1

We arent super fans. We are super celebrities..lol

Danny
02-24-2011, 11:44 AM
Vote Jag

Danny
02-24-2011, 11:45 AM
Ugg

Vote Jag

My reasoning for this vote is that my teammate already has a vote, so I am putting a second vote on JAG to help establish him and CR as candidates ahead of Mauboy.

Danny
02-24-2011, 11:50 AM
And now I'm going to have to come up with a different day 2 vote plan as my teammate and I are the two people with second votes lol

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 12:05 PM
As of post 176:

JAG 2 - Autumn (164), Danny (175)
Chief Rum 2 - Lathum (170), mauboy1 (171)
mauboy1 1 - PackerFanatic (169)

JAG
02-24-2011, 12:13 PM
I support you in your choices. Why, one of my teammates on my world champion team had a nephew who was gay!

But let's face it, you guys don't stand a chance, so it might as well be you taking it for the team.

I'm not usually into retaliatory votes, but I can't let that smack go unchallenged. And with your championship pedigree, it probably wouldn't be wise to let you hang around.

Vote Autumn

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 12:15 PM
To clarrify on energy. Energy is per individual. Aggression is a team total.

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 12:16 PM
As of post 179:

JAG 2 - Autumn (164), Danny (175)
Chief Rum 2 - Lathum (170), mauboy1 (171)
mauboy1 1 - PackerFanatic (169)
Autumn - JAG (178)

bhlloy
02-24-2011, 01:13 PM
Those posts from mauboy have peaked my interest.. so for now until I have a better reason

Vote MAUBOY1

MartinD
02-24-2011, 02:26 PM
Checking in, and catching up - the WW side looks pretty straightforward, but it might take me a bit of time to get my head around the best way to approach the race side of the game. (This is where it doesn't help that I've never seen the programme before!) Mind you, it'll probably take longer to get used to being in close proximity to that ... Why, hello dear! ;)

I haven't been in all that many games, but is it not a bit unusual that the votes seem to be reasonably concentrated this early on day 1? I'm sure that it's normal for there to be at least 5 or 6 players with a vote before we start getting multiple players with multiple votes, particularly in a game of this size...

Autumn
02-24-2011, 02:40 PM
That is a bit odd, Martin. With 20 players I would expect a 7 person spread to start off with. I wonder if it has to do with the teams, everybody has twice as much at stake and so is more concerned with keeping both of their team members out of the limelight?

Danny
02-24-2011, 02:42 PM
Maybe a little odd, but we're better off with more concentrated votes

MartinD
02-24-2011, 02:46 PM
Even with the unusual concentration of the votes, I don't like spreading the votes over more players on day 1 if I can help it - will be voting for one of the three who currently have two votes.

None of the three are my teammate, so it's pretty much 'pick one at random' time...

VOTE MAUBOY1

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 02:49 PM
Oh jeez. I had my message all typed up on my phone before you..then a customer walked in and I didn't post it until just now and never refreshed to see if there were other votes.

Hey, you're responsible for checking out what has been posted since you started your message, so you get no breaks from me dropping a second vote on me so quick. I have to think it looks suspicious.

VOTE MAUBOY1

mckerney
02-24-2011, 02:49 PM
Vote mauboy1

With a vote on my teammate I'm going with the current leader.

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 02:53 PM
Hey, you're responsible for checking out what has been posted since you started your message, so you get no breaks from me dropping a second vote on me so quick. I have to think it looks suspicious.

VOTE MAUBOY1

And then it happens to me, lol.

It's still an iffy move, though, so I'll keep my vote here for now.

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 02:54 PM
Wow, okay, now you guys are tripping me out.

I'm going to take my vote off of mauboy1 and re-assess.

UNVOTE MAUBOY1

Danny
02-24-2011, 02:56 PM
Wow, four straight votes for Mauboy.

hoopsguy
02-24-2011, 02:58 PM
I'm likely to use my vote defensively, if push comes to shove, today as I think Chief Rum is a good player in addition to being my teammate. I don't want to handicap our chances of winning on the 20% chance that he is a wolf.

I expect everyone would feel the same way about protecting their teammates, given the lack of initial information, but I feel even more strongly about it knowing I'm with a guy I value a lot as a villager.

Danny
02-24-2011, 03:02 PM
Unvote JAG
Vote ntndeacon

Right now it does look like we are focusing a lot on stronger more vocal players, so I'm going to put my vote on a quieter player.

Danny
02-24-2011, 03:02 PM
Unvote JAG
Vote ntndeacon

The Jackal
02-24-2011, 03:26 PM
I'd like to see what happens with another candidate thrown in the mix. Out of the three leaders I'd probably end up voting for mau but I don't like the run that just happened. For now:

VOTE NTN

mauchow
02-24-2011, 03:56 PM
I was fine putting a vote on chief for the reason that he was unlikely to get voted out on the first day. With his performance on the last game I'd want him gone as a wolf so I figure there would be a few wolves who'd want to jump on the train to vote for him (and come to think of it was not going to happen anyway.). I didn't expect to Garner this muchattention though but that's what happens when u don't refresh(not easy on the phone to copy paste though I've figured it out now) regardless, the end result is that we need someone lynched. It shouldn't be me on the first day as a regular contestant... I helped the villagers go on a roll the last game and feel I've got lots to offer as a villager. Especially in just my second game back from a few year layoff. I'm itching to kill some bad guys again! And fwiw if I do die it would be a regular villager w no special powers.

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 04:06 PM
As of post 195:

mauboy1 4 - PackerFanatic (169), bhlloy (181), MartinD (185), mckerney (187)
Chief Rum 2 - Lathum (170), mauboy1 (171)
ntndeacon 2 - Danny (193), The Jackal (194)
JAG 1 - Autumn (164)
Autumn - JAG (178)

bhlloy
02-24-2011, 04:13 PM
wow... that run on Mauboy looks really bad for me right now if he turns out villager

That last post didn't do much to dispel the reasons I voted for him however. I'm gonna stick to this one for the time being.

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 04:14 PM
Everyone may want to take the over on the inbox clears.... :)

MartinD
02-24-2011, 04:21 PM
Some strange voting patterns already - can see this offering opportunities for analysis further down the line...

I don't like the run of votes on mauboy1 (yes, I'm aware that I was a part of it), but I'm not going to change my vote - for all I know at this point, any one player is as good as any other, and I tend to stick with my Day 1 vote unless there's a very good reason for switching (translation - unless I need to switch my vote in self-defence!)

hoopsguy
02-24-2011, 04:27 PM
I'll join the NTN group at this point. Hoping to be back before deadline to see if anything emerges as a reason for my vote other than "not my teammate".

VOTE NTN

mauchow
02-24-2011, 04:28 PM
wow... that run on Mauboy looks really bad for me right now if he turns out villager

That last post didn't do much to dispel the reasons I voted for him however. I'm gonna stick to this one for the time being.

Yeah its stupid to have to defend on day 1. My follow up note after my vote was probably pointless but I didn't want to look like a piper.. I dunno. Its been a while so I'm very rusty I guess.

mauchow
02-24-2011, 04:31 PM
Piler ...stupid phone corrected

JAG
02-24-2011, 04:31 PM
Not sure what to make of things to this point, but I won't be voting Chief without at least some evidence after last game. Going to wait and see what happens though, still a lot of folks left to check in.

cougarfreak
02-24-2011, 04:32 PM
Not much to go on day 1, are there usually runs during day 1 like this?

Zinto
02-24-2011, 04:35 PM
I guess I will vote for Chief just to keep things nice and tight between the three options.

Vote Chief

ntndeacon
02-24-2011, 04:37 PM
well I hate the fact I am a leading vote getter on day one. This is more to bolster a third candidate than any other reason...i.e, I am well prepared to change to the leader if I need to to save my own butt. ...but for now....

Vote Chief

Lathum
02-24-2011, 04:38 PM
Not much to go on day 1, are there usually runs during day 1 like this?

It is usually more spread out. I do think there is a growing camp of us that feels it is better to bunch D1 votes together for better voting records. The run on Mau was kind of odd to see on D1 but without looking back if there were set (s) of teammates voting him it really isn't as bad as it looks.

ntndeacon
02-24-2011, 04:38 PM
well sorry about that. it is always no fun to type up a post and a vote while someone else is doing the same thing.

MartinD
02-24-2011, 04:40 PM
Not much to go on day 1, are there usually runs during day 1 like this?

I guess I will vote for Chief just to keep things nice and tight between the three options.

Vote Chief

well I hate the fact I am a leading vote getter on day one. This is more to bolster a third candidate than any other reason...i.e, I am well prepared to change to the leader if I need to to save my own butt. ...but for now....

Vote Chief

Don't have anything serious to say - these three posts struck me as being amusing... :)

ntndeacon
02-24-2011, 04:44 PM
Don't have anything serious to say - these three posts struck me as being amusing... :)

yea it is funny, I probably still go vote for Chief even if I know of Zinto's vote as it is now 4-4-3 for mau, chief and me

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 04:56 PM
As of post 210:

mauboy1 4 - PackerFanatic (169), bhlloy (181), MartinD (185), mckerney (187)
Chief Rum 4 - Lathum (170), mauboy1 (171), Zinto (205), ntndeacon (206)
ntndeacon 3 - Danny (193), The Jackal (194), hoopsguy (200)
JAG 1 - Autumn (164)
Autumn - JAG (178)

Passacaglia
02-24-2011, 04:57 PM
I'll keep things even for now -- I can't do my typical deadline shenanigans, since I'll be out tonight.

VOTE NTNDEACON

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 05:03 PM
Okay, well if I am going to get pushed up to even with mauboy1 by someone wanting to "introduce a third candidate" and then someone making a self-defense move on me rather than the lead guy, then I guess I might as well make it interesting.

VOTE NTNDEACON

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 05:03 PM
I'll keep things even for now -- I can't do my typical deadline shenanigans, since I'll be out tonight.

VOTE NTNDEACON

Unbelievable.

MartinD
02-24-2011, 05:05 PM
That's me done for the night...

Before I leave, I thought that it was worth pointing out something from the rules post on page 1:

Tie Vote

A tied lynch vote will lead to no "lynch" and additionally there will be no night actions performed by either side.

Something to bear in mind for closer to deadline...

MartinD
02-24-2011, 05:06 PM
Unbelievable.

This is either a very unlikely series of coincidences, or something fishy is going on...

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 05:09 PM
That's me done for the night...

Before I leave, I thought that it was worth pointing out something from the rules post on page 1:



Something to bear in mind for closer to deadline...

Yeah, I'm aware of that rule. I don't know if I will be around at the lynch deadline, but if I am assure you, I won't let it end in a tie, even if I have to vote myself.

ntndeacon
02-24-2011, 05:10 PM
well chief I will be willing to move to mau if you are

CrimsonFox
02-24-2011, 05:11 PM
All three good candidates. I think I'll go for mauboy as he helped put the nail in my coffin last game. Good ole revenge yeehaw.

vote mauboy1

cougarfreak
02-24-2011, 05:11 PM
Don't have anything serious to say - these three posts struck me as being amusing... :)

I can tell you, I've been through exactly two day 1's. So I was asking a question.

CrimsonFox
02-24-2011, 05:13 PM
This is either a very unlikely series of coincidences, or something fishy is going on...


ehhh, people always like to "even things up" between three candidates. It might be something but if you notice a lot of them are voting within minutes of each other so they didn't know the others were voting that way, like those three on mau.

ntndeacon
02-24-2011, 05:20 PM
to uneven it up some....

Unvote Chief
Vote mau

Darth Vilus
02-24-2011, 05:23 PM
Vote Mauboy

I doubt I'll move it unless someone better comes up. It is day 1 so we have nothing to go on yet

Darth Vilus
02-24-2011, 05:23 PM
Vote Mauboy

Darth Vilus
02-24-2011, 05:23 PM
stupid bold

cougarfreak
02-24-2011, 05:30 PM
I don't want a tie tonight, let's at least figure out if SOMEONE is a wolf or not.

vote mauboy

Lathum
02-24-2011, 05:41 PM
this has been a really bizarre day 1

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 05:42 PM
Really? Really?

Maybe we're all wolves, and we're voting in blocks to tip each other off. :D

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 05:43 PM
this has been a really bizarre day 1

:+1:

Zinto
02-24-2011, 05:55 PM
Well I am off to class till after the first deadline and maybe the second but I will check in on my phone every once in a while if the vote gets close or Chief ends up being a poor choice.

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 06:00 PM
Have received instructions from 8 of the 10 teams. This will be a one time warning since everyone is still feeling out the game. There are two MUST haves in the instructions that each team submits: Which detour to do and who will do the roadblock.

Should be a good write up (hope I can turn it into a good write up at least).

Two hours before the Race deadline.

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 06:08 PM
As of post 231:

mauboy1 8 - PackerFanatic (169), bhlloy (181), MartinD (185), mckerney (187), CrimsonFox (219), ntndeacon (222), Darth Vilus (224), cougarfreak (226)
ntndeacon 5 - Danny (193), The Jackal (194), hoopsguy (200), Passacaglia (212), Chief Rum (213)
Chief Rum 3 - Lathum (170), mauboy1 (171), Zinto (205)
JAG 1 - Autumn (164)
Autumn 1 - JAG (178)

EagleFan
02-24-2011, 06:09 PM
You guys are messing with me with these runs today... :)

mauchow
02-24-2011, 06:14 PM
unvote chief

vote ntn

trying to feed the little guy now,

GoldenEagle
02-24-2011, 06:21 PM
I will vote for ntn just to make things interesting.

COTE NTNDEACON

GoldenEagle
02-24-2011, 06:21 PM
VOTE NTNDEACON

saldana
02-24-2011, 06:22 PM
to keep it close and interesting

vote ntn

Lathum
02-24-2011, 06:29 PM
haha

is there some vote run secret victory condition I don't know about?

Lathum
02-24-2011, 06:29 PM
I think that ties us, no?

Lathum
02-24-2011, 06:29 PM
Unvote CR
Vote NTN

want a meaningful vote and I think I am breaking a tie

Autumn
02-24-2011, 06:36 PM
I know it's a meaningless day 1 vote, but it would help if people were giving some tiny nugget of a reason for their votes. Nobody's even bothering justifying anything.

Chief Rum
02-24-2011, 06:43 PM
UNVOTE NTNDEACON
VOTE MAUBOY1

Because ntn did this for me, I'll do the same for him.

Lathum
02-24-2011, 06:58 PM
Out until after deadline

saldana
02-24-2011, 07:00 PM
anyone have a count?

i know i tied it (not intentionally, other votes were made while i was reading the page), but i wouldnt leave it that way.

mauchow
02-24-2011, 07:03 PM
I think I'm the leading vote getter by one with Chief's switcharoo..

ntndeacon
02-24-2011, 07:04 PM
mau 9-me 8
CR JAG and Autumn 1 I believe

cougarfreak
02-24-2011, 07:08 PM
I know it's a meaningless day 1 vote, but it would help if people were giving some tiny nugget of a reason for their votes. Nobody's even bothering justifying anything.

I voted to try and make it lean away from a tie, but from the latest run on ntn, it looks like it's going to end up close anyway.

mauchow
02-24-2011, 07:10 PM
Obviously it's getting down to the last hour .. I was really hoping I could last through the first day but it's pretty apparent that I won't be. I will reveal my role in a half hour, I'd prefer not to for the sake of the villagers. I don't know what else to say. I know its a day one vote and its got to go somewhere but this isn't the right one when I know I can help.

GoldenEagle
02-24-2011, 07:13 PM
People sure jumped off the CR bandwagon in a hurry.

bhlloy
02-24-2011, 07:21 PM
I know it's a meaningless day 1 vote, but it would help if people were giving some tiny nugget of a reason for their votes. Nobody's even bothering justifying anything.

I don't mind justifying mine, I just don't want to seem like I'm lobbying for it in case it's a huge fail :p Lathum in post #170 and Mauboy in post #171 and #172 is kinda weird... both emphasizing how random their picks are and then mauboy's "oh shit" post like he screwed something up. I'm sure at this point it's nothing but it seems like as good a premise as I have right now, much better than just picking a name at random. I assume the run after than is because other people saw it and thought it was a bit weird too.

I may be going after this one particular angle too hard and if mauboy is a roled villager like he claims then I'm probably going to pay for it with my life tomorrow, just struck me as odd and I have nothing else to go on...