For Those Probably Buying Backbreaker How Important Are Fatigue And Injuries To You?

[blackscorpion11]

I don't see any realism without player fatigue or injuries.. It's arcade without those things..(what were they thinking).

[blackscorpion11]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Call it being an aplologist if you want. I prefer realist. This game is being developed by 8-10 guys over a 3 year span. By comparision, Madden 08 was developed in the same amount of time for that series and they outnumber the BB devs by about 10-1. Add to that fact that Natural Motion gave us RRTB mode, 3-d interactive crowds, the deepest creation tools on any football game, and is giving us true physics based outcomes with realistic player interactions and less predictable behaviour based AI and I'm willing to cut the team quite a bit of slack. Realistically, football is not only one of the most difficult games to program but as a football gamer I also have to give Natural Motion a ton of credit just for having the balls to attempt a football game under the current conditions since no other company has attempted it in the past 3 years. That said, a BB2 won't get the same treatment. If this game is successful, my expectations will be much higher for this franchise.

With respect i have to say, your points are valid, but they are still excuses...

They spent a ton of time developing the technology and a shorter time creating the game..I havent read of any consultants being brought in to assist in development.

Early game makers spent more time on their games most likely with less developers and still managed to produce complete football games..

If they are short of time or manpower then they should wait and release the game when it's complete..

No injuries, no fatigue = arcade football ..and in 2010 were beyond that now IMO.

[blackscorpion11]

The poll results are suprising to me..Here in a forum that sweats every detail in a game... These two omissions don't seem to matter.

[NoDakHusker]

Quote: Originally Posted by blackscorpion11

With respect i have to say, your points are valid, but they are still excuses... They spent a ton of time developing the technology and a shorter time creating the game..I havent read of any consultants being brought in to assist in development. Early game makers spent more time on their games most likely with less developers and still managed to produce complete football games.. If they are short of time or manpower then they should wait and release the game when it's complete.. No injuries, no fatigue = arcade football ..and in 2010 were beyond that now IMO.

this game has been in production for around 3/4 years FYI.
And saying this game is arcade..well you are entitled to think that, but you haven't played it yet. Sim/arcade goes far beyond just injuries and fatigue, at least I think so anyway.

[JayBee74]

Quote: Originally Posted by blackscorpion11

No injuries, no fatigue = arcade football ..and in 2010 were beyond that now IMO.

Not at all. That's an oversimplification and simply not true. The "pinball" (some call it God's view) view of standard football games is more "arcadey" than no fatigue or injuries.
So why are you buying the game?

[JayBee74]

Quote: Originally Posted by blackscorpion11

The poll results are suprising to me..Here in a forum that sweats every detail in a game... These two omissions don't seem to matter.

Not really, it's still about half and half, but the key point is importance to us.

[BlackJack_Williams]

Quote: Originally Posted by blackscorpion11

The poll results are suprising to me..Here in a forum that sweats every detail in a game... These two omissions don't seem to matter.

You mean the Madden section lol

[Blzer]

Quote: Originally Posted by blackscorpion11

The poll results are suprising to me..Here in a forum that sweats every detail in a game... These two omissions don't seem to matter.

Technically, "could care less" means that it's important to them.