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Old 07-24-2008, 06:36 PM   #25
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Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

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During editing should I have switched care out for like? Would that have cleared it up more? Otherwise I once again have to plead ignorance because he's talking about pre-release, and in the article doesn't really say everything is rosy now etc.
I think it's just the overall thought that we as a base would go out, spend a week looking for the game, drop $60-80 only to complain about the game.

Go to the NBA 2k board and try and find me complaining. Go to the CH2k board and look for some of AA's posts. Go look at the 06 and 2004 threads on this board. The few people may be vocal on this board, but it's the same people who have been vocal that 2004, 06, NBA/CH 2k8, and NFL 2k5 were some of the best sports games ever.

The tone of the last few paragraphs that people were focusing only on the negatives and a general message of "stop complaining and have fun". If anything, now that we have EA people on the board, we should make sure they know that we are unsatisfied with broken features and things that should not happen in a football game. Personally, going 23/27 passing, averaging 40 yards on punt returns, and giving up 18 rushing yards a game because the AI is content to run QB choices/reads almost exclusively is not that fun to me. I'm not sure it's a petty negative complaint that the AI doesn't know that the sideline can stop a runner or that 60 speed quarterback probably shouldn't get 18 carries in a game. The forums became a downer, not because the people were negative nancies, but because EA released a bad game. The last few paragraphs seem to blame the forum users for EA's mistakes.
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:37 PM   #26
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Wow. You can't tell me that this one wasn't a bit biased. Its like the OS front page has become more editorial than fact. We are talking about "feelings" now? We refer to unsatisfied gamers as "Chicken Littles?"

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....I'm sorry Steve but what we talked about before, I just can't believe you. This never....I mean never happened on a football release. Not since '03 and I've read every one. This is an editorial, period.
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Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

Damn...

I've always tried to fight to about the objectivity of OS... but goodness man, that article shouldn't have been published.

It almost makes it seem like the article was written ahead of time and planned to be released before the issues were even discovered.

I look back and the NCAA series has always been heralded here at OS. NCAA 2004... 2005... I look at those games and don't recall them having all these issues... sure, they weren't perfect, but did almost all of the major new additions have problems, as well as the gameplay?

An article like this just makes me feel like whomever is writing them are either out of the loop or have a particular slant.

You can say you're enjoying the game; You can say there are many who are upset about issues with the game (that are facts)... but to make it seem like those who mention problems with the game are just complaining to complain... as if they can never be pleased?

Wow.
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:41 PM   #28
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Problem is to bring in this wide open gameplay the defence basically had their balls chopped off.

The people that dislike the game cant convince people that enjoy the game to hate it, but anyone that wants a realistic defensive game has NO chance that right now. Sure you can have the odd defensive game, but eventually the CPU QB is going to go off on you and their is no way to counter it realistically.
Yeah, I get what you're saying, and it does suck that you guys can't play the kind of game you like to play. I just wish that when I say I am enjoying the game, realistic or not, somebody wouldn't immdiately say something like "well you obviously don't know anything about football" and "you should go play NFL Blitz then." you see what I'm saying? Just because I want something differant from a video game than other people, it's like I don't love football as much as them.
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I think it's just the overall thought that we as a base would go out, spend a week looking for the game, drop $60-80 only to complain about the game.

Go to the NBA 2k board and try and find me complaining. Go to the CH2k board and look for some of AA's posts. Go look at the 06 and 2004 threads on this board. The few people may be vocal on this board, but it's the same people who have been vocal that 2004, 06, NBA/CH 2k8, and NFL 2k5 were some of the best sports games ever.

The tone of the last few paragraphs that people were focusing only on the negatives and a general message of "stop complaining and have fun". If anything, now that we have EA people on the board, we should make sure they know that we are unsatisfied with broken features and things that should not happen in a football game. Personally, going 23/27 passing, averaging 40 yards on punt returns, and giving up 18 rushing yards a game because the AI is content to run QB choices/reads almost exclusively is not that fun to me. I'm not sure it's a petty negative complaint that the AI doesn't know that the sideline can stop a runner or that 60 speed quarterback probably shouldn't get 18 carries in a game. The forums became a downer, not because the people were negative nancies, but because EA released a bad game. The last few paragraphs seem to blame the forum users for EA's mistakes.
OK, fair enough. I still don't think the final message is stop complaining and have fun. One of his points is that people tend to talk about negatives more than positives though, which I mean I think is fair, it tends to be easier to articulate negatives than positives as well.
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I didn't write it, just edited it for grammar and all that. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

If you feel you guys are being misrepresented by the writers that's totally alright to say though, that's why I'm talking with you guys right now -- I'm trying to find out what's up.

The article is more about business as usual in a sense just because he's speaking in a general sense at the beginning about how football releases tend to go every year. Since I've been apart of a few of these releases when I was more into football I do tend to agree with how the release window breaks down.
What's up is that article is basically a propaganda piece.

What "Sun" do you see? Not a single patch has even been released yet, which is why my Online League is still in a holding pattern due to freezing rosters, hijacked dynasties, and glitchy Stadium Sounds.

That's not even concerning the mental midgets on defense and the 95+ speed players who have jet packs on their backs.

There isn't a "small faction" that's unhappy right now. If I made a post saying "If you are unhappy with NCAA pre patch, post here"...I guarantee you it would be at 10 pages within 2 days.

And as I've stated repeatedly, I respect the opinions of guys like Abner and Rhombic, etc. Heck, some of my posts have been NICE compared to what Rhombic and Bill Harris have posted...and what they posted was true.

In other words...the article is wrong.
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It has now been well over a week since NCAA Football 09 was released and we have seen just about every reaction possible about EA Sports newest game. Our very own Patrick Williams was in the middle of the release frenzy and checks in today with an article discussing his thoughts on how the releases reaction was received among the community in his latest article, Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story.
This has to be one of the most pointless articles ever. What is this? A summer book report for extra credit?
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Re: Summer Storms: The NCAA Release Story

Honestly speaking, if people didn't think OS was in bed with EA before, I am sure they do now. I am trying to make the best of this game, I really am. Sure, it is funny to make Preston Parker look like the genetically engineered super child of Barry Sanders and Peter Warrick on every punt return, but after a while it just gets old. I was expecting a decent game, I gave up on 2008 within weeks, but yet again this game leaves me wondering if EA Programmers have ever seen the American version of football.
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