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Old 05-10-2011, 09:09 PM   #121
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Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

Good points let me also add that they are a negative to mixing up your playbook to the 4 diffrent types that someone mentionted. If the 4 types are power run/shotgun/flexbone/pistol-singleback and you have 90 plays each. While 90 plays is alot you are still giving up some depth of power run formations-plays just to more balanced.


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If people want to edit height and weight in their single player dynasties who cares. If they want it for online dynasties post it on the website so everyone can see and have an OD vote to approve the changes. Don't just take away things from people who you have never met to force everybody to live and play like you.

If people want every formation in their playbook who cares.

Chances are unless they pick some power program they won't have the depth
to run every formation well anyways especially with the 70 man roster limit.
5 Wide Receivers?
4 TE's?
Fullback or two?
Offensive line great at pass blocking and run blocking?
Running backs great at blocking, running, catching?
QB that can take hits, scramble, and throw well?

Even on defense
6ish good defensive linemen
4 good linebackers
4 good corners
several good safeties

The only limit placed on people as is the same in real life should be the number of formations the team has personnel for. Hell, I am pretty sure UCLA even spontaneously added the pistol last year. Arizona experimented with a cheetah package last year that featured more defensive ends and defensive backs.

Let people do what they want in THEIR game. The only time it should be a concern is multiplayer in which case in random matches disable it if need be, and in online dynasties put it up for a vote to get approval and post the change on the website, or if you trust your OD commissioner allow the option for just commissioner approval.

I kinda like the practice points system idea suggested earlier as I would probably use it, but it should be optional so people can use it if they want to or not.
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:31 PM   #122
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first thing is i love this feature and its long over due.

You answered your own post.
Its not that teams cant have multiple formations. as i posted earlier. there is a difference between 5 plays out of different formations and 20. Every team knows how to line up and the basic concept for every formation in existence.

The realism factor is teams cant run all those effective. do you know the practice time it takes to get a functioning amount of timing for a option offense the same thing with the amount of timing for a timing based passing offense. it takes different lineman technique different adjustments audibles ect.

What you hear from most guys who have slight issues, isn't that playbooks cant run any play from any formation. Its the amount of multiple offenses you can run in one playbook.

Its that with out any kind of guide line you can run 4 different type of offenses with no penalty. Each with 90 plays apiece. Think about that number. 90 plays in 4 different offensive philosophies. i can get 90 power runs, 90 shotgun / 4 wide plays, 90 wshbone /flexbone and 90 more pistol / oneback plays. all in one playbook with no penalty on execution.

For anybody who went to practice every day hearing the coach say run it again for the 5th time on the same play, to think about going into game prep with that many of each style is beyond a fantasy.

it is a game meant to be played for fun. But just like all the complaints on physic dbs and all the other things that are less than realistic, from this guy who played and coached it goes beyond realism.

Now dont get it twisted. Im gonna have a blast with this. I just would have loved a 27 formation 300 play limit or some type of penalty or limit to the numbers that are in the game now.
Well, I don't believe every person should be forced to have less plays or less formations, just because some people want more restrictions on custom playbooks. There some people that like the 377 custom play limit and there are definitely people that want a lower play/formation limit. I believe that we shouldn't restrict or force people to abide by the same play/formation limit that any one person would prefer.

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Old 05-10-2011, 11:51 PM   #123
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Well, I don't believe every person should be forced to have less plays or less formations, just because some people want more restrictions on custom playbooks. There some people that like the 377 custom play limit and there are definitely people that want a lower play/formation limit. I believe that we shouldn't restrict or force people to abide by the same play/formation limit that any one person would prefer.
Absolutely agree. I actually believe I will use all the plays and have to subtract from the plays I want to fit inside the limit. I think pro formations like I-form and stong I take up a lot of plays.
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Old 05-11-2011, 01:18 AM   #124
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I am sorry but saying that people should be able to edit their players in dynasty is freaking doodoo.

To answer you question, WHO CARES? I CARE!

So we should all forget about having to recruit tall WRs, we should just recruit the fastest ones we can find and make them 7 feet tall? Same thing with DTs and DEs who come in 260 pounds, lets just make em 7 feet tall and 340 pounds so they can knock down every pass and destroy single blocks all day long.

THINK ABOUT IT.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:18 AM   #125
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I am sorry but saying that people should be able to edit their players in dynasty is freaking doodoo.

To answer you question, WHO CARES? I CARE!

So we should all forget about having to recruit tall WRs, we should just recruit the fastest ones we can find and make them 7 feet tall? Same thing with DTs and DEs who come in 260 pounds, lets just make em 7 feet tall and 340 pounds so they can knock down every pass and destroy single blocks all day long.

THINK ABOUT IT.
I think ppl want it to give realistic weight progression and second if they pay 60 dollars for a game they should be able to do what they want with it. No restrictions. That feature should have never been taken out. They also should be allowed to edit ratings. If the want all 9s that are 7' 340 that's on them but you or I won't be playing them.
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I'm all for the ability to customize any and everything.

I don't play against persons who would abuse it.
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:21 AM   #127
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Just go back to the BCS NC game two years ago... the Longhorns lose McCoy and what happened??? In the game, if that happens, there is no difference between the Freshman and the 98 over-all rated Senior. Just saying...
that was my point. i'm really surprised it didn't get more discussion though since there were so many people in here complaining about being "realistic" and "sim". if you want "realistic" then you'd want a feature similar to that. i'd be fine with it as long as it had a switch to turn on or off.
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I am sorry but saying that people should be able to edit their players in dynasty is freaking doodoo.

To answer you question, WHO CARES? I CARE!

So we should all forget about having to recruit tall WRs, we should just recruit the fastest ones we can find and make them 7 feet tall? Same thing with DTs and DEs who come in 260 pounds, lets just make em 7 feet tall and 340 pounds so they can knock down every pass and destroy single blocks all day long.

THINK ABOUT IT.

What does it matter if some 8 year old wants his team of 99 overall players? Does it hurt you? Damage your pride? Who cares. It's his game. Let him use it how he wants to and let the kid get a little bit of fun out of it as well! Think about it. Limiting what other people do when it has no impact on you is akin to you telling me, "Don't put posters bigger than 8x11 in your room because otherwise they are too big, and I have decided that posters that are too large will ruin your room viewing experience." Who cares what people recruit, and what ratings they change afterwards. If a person wants to they should be able to create an entire class of 99 rated recruits to begin with because who the hell cares what they do with their copy of the game.

What grates me is when people tell me I can't have a feature that would immeasurably improve my enjoyment of the game because they decided I or some other random user are obviously not mentally equipped enough to handle the responsibility of editing our own players in our own dynasties towards the end of making the game more fun, realistic, or challenging for ourselves as individuals who own the game.

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