Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

[Serengeti1]

I'm a good player on UFC 3. Not too good yet but pretty good. I've barely played competitively yet but I'm sure I could hang with the top 100 within some time of playing competitively. I started playing the game on the 4th so later than most.

So far I've been able to crowd all of my opponents and Mike Tyson them. I haven't come across someone who has managed to effectively fight on the outside against me. I also can't do it myself when a decent player is constantly coming forward and spamming duck/upper etc.

Like I'm not talking about guys that are kind of aggressive. I'm talking about a playstyle where you literally just hold the analogue towards your opponent the entire time. So far I'm not seeing how you can create space and fight at a distance effectively when fighting someone like this.

Can somebody please show me how it's done? My PSN is FearFyah. This isn't an ego thing. I genuinely want to know how to do it. I know how to use lunges and all that but they don't seem enough against a relentless opponent.

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Not that I'm any good at it yet, but I find outside is possible by using teeps and rangey kicks. When they get close use some quick head movement to stun them and back off or throw in a takedown.

I like the jab - hook kick combination. Very fast & rangey without punishing you too much for missing.

I use the jab-cross-hook to interrupt them up close, and stand my ground so the strikes come out faster.

That said, this is vs AI so not sure if it would be as useful against face hugging players online.

Footwork wise, I haven't figured out the lunge stuff just yet. Back lunge is good if I can time it but I end up quite close to the fences quickly.

I've recently become a fan of the lead leg kick to rear cross combo when playing at range.

You can throw if just out of punching range, catch them coming in with the leg kick and throw off a quick 2 to get in some head damage, but more importantly stuff any strike they might throw if the leg kick doesn't stop them.

It's still a risky combo to throw so you can't spam it, but I find it quite useful.

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

I think the big culprit for the current dominance of inside fighting is the OPness of body punches. After they're nerfed, I think people will chill a bit more.

Good ways to create space (in more of a non-body-spam-fest of a match) are:

1- Retreating Straights.

2- Throwing a retreating kick from punching range, at the end of a combo.

3- Throwing a planted kick after advancing punches, when the opponent retreats himself.

I love doing these things. They make the new locomotion system feel so worth it!

[Serengeti1]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

I think the big culprit for the current dominance of inside fighting is the OPness of body punches. After they're nerfed, I think people will chill a bit more.

Good ways to create space (in more of a non-body-spam-fest of a match) are:

1- Retreating Straights.

2- Throwing a retreating kick from punching range, at the end of a combo.

3- Throwing a planted kick after advancing punches, when the opponent retreats himself.

I love doing these things. They make the new locomotion system feel so worth it!

I feel like I can just duck under all of this and land an uppercut lol. Then you'd throw an uppercut, I know. But I'd have pulled you into inside fighting. Seems to be pretty easy to do this with any fighter too.

Can one of you show me this online? Because I'm currently not a believer

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

I feel like I can just duck under all of this and land an uppercut lol. Then you'd throw an uppercut, I know. But I'd have pulled you into inside fighting. Seems to be pretty easy to do this with any fighter too.

Can one of you show me this online? Because I'm currently not a believer

You have an xbox?

I also have some videos of me fighting online

[Serengeti1]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

You have an xbox?

I also have some videos of me fighting online

Nah, I don't. Post em mate

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Nah, I don't. Post em mate

My twitch is Dc2Ac

Im at work atm and cant access the site.

Im not a top level player but I’m definitely above average. My record was like 80-12 in EA UFC 2 ranked(stopped at Div 5 so I could find matches in quick match)

[Serengeti1]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Someone better step up to play me on PS4 and try to keep me on the outside lol. It's easy to say anything on here without putting it into practice. I know how successful I've been by doing this so if someone can keep me on the outside.. I'll know it can be done. And when I say successful... I've lost fights doing it too.... but they can't keep me on the outside. The fight turns into a brawl every time.

PSN: FearFyah

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Someone better step up to play me on PS4 and try to keep me on the outside lol. It's easy to say anything on here without putting it into practice. I know how successful I've been by doing this so if someone can keep me on the outside.. I'll know it can be done. And when I say successful... I've lost fights doing it too.... but they can't keep me on the outside. The fight turns into a brawl every time.

PSN: FearFyah

I usually do it with backdashes and pivot hooks

I’ve had countless dudes give up chasin me lol.

When I get home i’ll give you specific times to check out my movement

[WarMMA]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Pretty much just using long attacks to stay away from the pocket.

[WarMMA]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Someone better step up to play me on PS4 and try to keep me on the outside lol. It's easy to say anything on here without putting it into practice. I know how successful I've been by doing this so if someone can keep me on the outside.. I'll know it can be done. And when I say successful... I've lost fights doing it too.... but they can't keep me on the outside. The fight turns into a brawl every time.

PSN: FearFyah

Thing is you can't keep someone outside forever...especially against someone who is good at cutting off the octagon. You can only do it while you have space. Just like the fighter trying to get on the inside has to fight his way in, eventually the outside fighter will get caught in the pocket and have to fight his way out. So if you're fighting, trying to keep distance and stay outside, you need to also learn how to escape the pocket when you're caught.

[Thetruth9012]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=926513

Thats what i said but nobody answered probably cause off my language....

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[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Thing is you can't keep someone outside forever...especially against someone who is good at cutting off the octagon. You can only do it while you have space. Just like the fighter trying to get on the inside has to fight his way in, eventually the outside fighter will get caught in the pocket and have to fight his way out. So if you're fighting, trying to keep distance and stay outside, you need to also learn how to escape the pocket when you're caught.

This. I try to play a rangey counterstriking game, and generally it goes pretty well, but occasionally I get Diazed into a corner and have to time my opponents or work out a pattern so I can either cicle out with strikes or lunges, then go back to half retreating half circling until they inevitably cut me off again.

Short LS lunges are handy as hell to get off the fence, few of them in desired direction, then the long lunge and you'll avoid just sliding along the fence and staying trapped.

Retreating strikes are handy whilst you backing up, too, practice the retreating spinning heel kick, once you know the range on that you can smash folk as they advance on you.

Lastly, if you can set them up, the roundhouse and ? Mark kick's sidestepping versions are fantastic for circling out, but risky up close cause youknow. Kicks.

It's still a close range fight at all times for me when the AI does its swarm mode thing, even when I try to use range. The movement stat doesn't seem to affect forward/backward walking speed so you can get walked down pretty quick even with good footwork by a swarmer.

Or maybe I just suck at range fighting still lol.

[Serengeti1]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Thing is you can't keep someone outside forever...especially against someone who is good at cutting off the octagon. You can only do it while you have space. Just like the fighter trying to get on the inside has to fight his way in, eventually the outside fighter will get caught in the pocket and have to fight his way out. So if you're fighting, trying to keep distance and stay outside, you need to also learn how to escape the pocket when you're caught.

Not forever... But I can stay in tight like 90% of the time in nearly all my fights.

I want to be able to do what Dodson did to Lineker. Holm to Rousey. Condit to Diaz.

That seems extremely difficult. I just seem to be able to duck my way into the pocket easily all the time. Walk forward. Hold block. Duck/Upper at the right time, followed by a hook. Often gets a rock. Eventually the other guy gets frustrated and just starts throwing uppers and hooks in the pocket back.

I'd post footage of this happening but it wouldn't prove anything. Everybody would say that the other player should have done A, B, & C. Which is why I'd much rather have someone show me.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

Not forever... But I can stay in tight like 90% of the time in nearly all my fights.

I want to be able to do what Dodson did to Lineker. Holm to Rousey. Condit to Diaz.

That seems extremely difficult. I just seem to be able to duck my way into the pocket easily all the time. Walk forward. Hold block. Duck/Upper at the right time, followed by a hook. Often gets a rock. Eventually the other guy gets frustrated and just starts throwing uppers and hooks in the pocket back.

I'd post footage of this happening but it wouldn't prove anything. Everybody would say that the other player should have done A, B, & C. Which is why I'd much rather have someone show me.

Walkin forward holdin blocks would open up leg kicks. I also love dudes who try to duck in on me.

1-3 or 3-5 all day