Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

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  • Phillyboi207
    Banned
    • Apr 2012
    • 3159

    #151
    Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

    Just to get things back on topic

    Does anyone have any ranked footage displaying outside fighting against a good opponent?

    I feel like movement speed and lunges are way worse than UFC 2 for creating distance

    We also cant chain head movement and lunges as fluidly.
    Last edited by Phillyboi207; 03-18-2018, 03:31 PM.

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    • kehlis
      Moderator
      • Jul 2008
      • 27738

      #152
      Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

      Originally posted by Phillyboi207
      Lmao such an ego. I’d hardly call that “gone off the rails”

      Just tell me you want me to stay on topic and the problem is solved. Trying to flex wont get you anywhere.

      But anyway I’m done with it. I’m only here for the Devs/Gcs input, not yours.
      Man, you can't get out of your own way.

      If it was about ego or muscles I would have just banned you. I really don't care what you or anyone thinks of me.

      I'm glad you're not here for my input since I have nothing to add for this game since I don't play it.

      I'm here to ask that you just follow the rules of the site so I'll point out this part of the TOS:

      Administrators/Moderators/Other Staff
      The staff on Operation Sports are here to help you enjoy sports gaming. We are here to make your time on these forums enjoyable, and to make it easy for you to find the information you need about all sports games. That being said, if one of us says something to you, take it to heart. Your response is not necessary. If you have a problem, PM the staff member or admin. Any public argument with any of the staff will result in your immediate banning. The staff is held accountable for their actions behind the scenes, and your opinion does matter. But a public argument does no good for any party involved.
      So yea, I could have banned based on your last post but I didn't. It's not about ego. Just post like an adult. This isn't a playground.

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      • UFCBlackbelt
        MVP
        • Jan 2018
        • 1067

        #153
        Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

        Originally posted by Phillyboi207
        Lmao such an ego. I’d hardly call that “gone off the rails”

        Just tell me you want me to stay on topic and the problem is solved. Trying to flex wont get you anywhere.

        But anyway I’m done with it. I’m only here for the Devs/Gcs input, not yours.

        Its not as bad as it once was. If you want to see bad, you’d have to see what these forums were like during the immigration from the previous forum. Nightmare

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        • SeparatedNose
          Banned
          • Nov 2017
          • 23

          #154
          Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

          Originally posted by Phillyboi207
          Superman punches arent super powerful lol

          Sitting down on a straight and turning your hip will have more power
          If just about any fighter was standing still and GSP hits them flush with a superman punch its night-night.

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          • RetractedMonkey
            MVP
            • Dec 2017
            • 1624

            #155
            Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

            Originally posted by SeparatedNose
            If just about any fighter was standing still and GSP hits them flush with a superman punch its night-night.
            I'm pretty sure most people doing a proper superman punch would get more power in it than a regular straight.

            A superman punch causes you to turn your hips just like a regular straight, but you get the added bonus of kicking your leg out and pushing off with your other leg to propel you forward.

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            • Phillyboi207
              Banned
              • Apr 2012
              • 3159

              #156
              Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

              Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
              I'm pretty sure most people doing a proper superman punch would get more power in it than a regular straight.

              A superman punch causes you to turn your hips just like a regular straight, but you get the added bonus of kicking your leg out and pushing off with your other leg to propel you forward.


              From GSP himself. There’s no hip torque the same way you would on a power straight. A superman punch is awesome because it’s unorthodox and has fantastic range.

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              • RetractedMonkey
                MVP
                • Dec 2017
                • 1624

                #157
                Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nn73fUlU9k

                From GSP himself. There’s no hip torque the same way you would on a power straight. A superman punch is awesome because it’s unorthodox and has fantastic range.
                That's a variation of a superman punch. He's lifting his leg straight forward to fake the kick and ends up with a smaller and quicker hop that covers less range and has less power.

                A traditional superman punch is done by lifting your knee (sorta like chambering a side kick) and then mule kicking it out. Chambering the knee will combine with a torquing action of the elbow toward the knee, where you then project the straight. It covers massive range and is more like a skip or leap than a hop.

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                • Phillyboi207
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 3159

                  #158
                  Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                  Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
                  That's a variation of a superman punch. He's lifting his leg straight forward to fake the kick and ends up with a smaller and quicker hop that covers less range and has less power.

                  A traditional superman punch is done by lifting your knee (sorta like chambering a side kick) and then mule kicking it out. Chambering the knee will combine with a torquing action of the elbow toward the knee, where you then project the straight. It covers massive range and is more like a skip or leap than a hop.


                  You’re referring to this at 40 secs right?

                  That’s still not the same as sitting and pivoting with your rear foot / turning over the hip to allow the energy from your lower body to transfer.

                  Agreed 100% on range but there’s no way that generates as much power as a power straight. The straight essentially generates force from both your lower and upper body. You’re just using the kick back to generate force for the superman punch.

                  Most power is transferred from the hips. The more you can involve them the more powerful your strikes can be.

                  We can agree to disagree tho i dont wanna derail this thread anymore.

                  Im really interested in seeing outside fighting in ranked

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                  • UpTehCooch
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 61

                    #159
                    Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                    Outside fighting at a higher level is impossible. Jabs can be ducked under with ease for a massive counter. Holding block and coming forward is faster than you going backwards not holding block. The game is rockem sockem robots with dumb swaying mechanics. Push kicks are slow and garbage too. So easy to catch kicks.

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                    • Dave_S
                      Dave
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 7835

                      #160
                      Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                      Originally posted by UFCBlackbelt
                      Its not as bad as it once was. If you want to see bad, you’d have to see what these forums were like during the immigration from the previous forum. Nightmare
                      How did you see if you joined in January 2018, did you just browse forums before registering?

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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #161
                        Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                        Originally posted by Dave_S
                        How did you see if you joined in January 2018, did you just browse forums before registering?
                        Either that or he is a previously banned user who has a new account. If its the latter, the mods typically dont care unless you are violating the TOS again.

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                        • FCB x Finlay
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 1293

                          #162
                          Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                          We need true sideways movement and for advanced movement such as lunges and sidesteps that isnt tied to your oppenent, so your circling round the cage and not around your oppenents face.

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                          • Phillyboi207
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 3159

                            #163
                            Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                            Originally posted by aholbert32
                            Either that or he is a previously banned user who has a new account. If its the latter, the mods typically dont care unless you are violating the TOS again.
                            Bro did you get a chance to record your outside fighting in ranked?

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #164
                              Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                              Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                              Bro did you get a chance to record your outside fighting in ranked?
                              I didnt because it was useless. The new patch made it impossible to use the back lunge to create space. I'm dissapointed about what happened so I'm going to chill from playing online until movement is addressed in a way to make it possible to fight from the outside.

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                              • FCB x Finlay
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 1293

                                #165
                                Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                                Originally posted by aholbert32
                                I didnt because it was useless. The new patch made it impossible to use the back lunge to create space. I'm dissapointed about what happened so I'm going to chill from playing online until movement is addressed in a way to make it possible to fight from the outside.
                                What can be done to change it other than new mocap. I think its the only option.

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