Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

[Phillyboi207]

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Can someone give me a decent real life example of fighting from the outside? Preferably something I can watch on fight pass.

Stephen Thompson vs Hendricks or Rory

Edgar vs Bendo either fight

[Nugget7211]

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Can someone give me a decent real life example of fighting from the outside? Preferably something I can watch on fight pass.

Aldo x Edgar 2, DJ x Reis, Holm x Rousey, Shevchenko x Holm, Moicano x Stephens, Joanna hopefully soon to be champion again so I don't have to learn how to spell her surname x Andrade

There's a bunch of non karate ones to go alongside Wonderboy or early Machida.

[Dave_S]

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Thanks, I just wanted to try and recreate some of these. I've had some success with R1 Thompson kicks similar to the Hendricks fight, but I think I was pretty close.

[aholbert32]

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Thanks, I just wanted to try and recreate some of these. I've had some success with R1 Thompson kicks similar to the Hendricks fight, but I think I was pretty close.

The problem is people dont fight like Hendricks. In the Hendricks fight, Wonderboys movement and striking was able to make Hendrick hesitate and not move forward all the time. In the game, people can just bulldoze forward even if you attempt to use movement.

[Phillyboi207]

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The problem is people dont fight like Hendricks. In the Hendricks fight, Wonderboys movement and striking was able to make Hendrick hesitate and not move forward all the time. In the game, people can just bulldoze forward even if you attempt to use movement.

The game doesnt allow for angles using footwork

If i could lunge at an angle i could recreate that by removing striking/grappling windows

[gtrimolet]

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And beta was better than both and more responsive.

beta was way more fun, i cound't stop playing, but them they nerfed body kicks to oblivion sway spam became a thing and we are where we are

[Noledynasty2490]

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I'd kill to have the beta back.

[Stolm]

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Agreed, Beta was significantly more fun, and a more realistic MMA game.

99% of my fights online are my opponents grinding on me throwing non-stop hooks while suffering close to no stamina loss.

I can try to counter with a ducking hook, but half the time the hook will clip the top of my head and then I will be fully open to 2-3 clean hooks so its not even worth it. And if they mix in a uppercut, its basically suicide.

I can try to back-dash and throw a straight, but they are usually backing me into the fence so there is not enough room, and even if I am in the center of the cage, they are so close that I still will not be out of range of their strikes anyway.

Really not sure how stamina works in this game anymore. I can fully block the aggressive hook spam all fight, and pick my spots with counters and kicks, but I always end up with significantly less stamina then my opponent. There needs to be way more stamina loss if you are just spamming the same 4 hooks over and over and hitting nothing but your opponents gloves.

Game seems to significantly penalize you for fighting realistically, and rewards those who just wade in spamming the same strikes over and over.

Add all that on top of fighting with the sluggish gameplay, and unresponsive controls.

[Noledynasty2490]

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Agreed, Beta was significantly more fun, and a more realistic MMA game.

99% of my fights online are my opponents grinding on me throwing non-stop hooks while suffering close to no stamina loss.

I can try to counter with a ducking hook, but half the time the hook will clip the top of my head and then I will be fully open to 2-3 clean hooks so its not even worth it. And if they mix in a uppercut, its basically suicide.

I can try to back-dash and throw a straight, but they are usually backing me into the fence so there is not enough room, and even if I am in the center of the cage, they are so close that I still will not be out of range of their strikes anyway.

Really not sure how stamina works in this game anymore. I can fully block the aggressive hook spam all fight, and pick my spots with counters and kicks, but I always end up with significantly less stamina then my opponent. There needs to be way more stamina loss if you are just spamming the same 4 hooks over and over and hitting nothing but your opponents gloves.

Game seems to significantly penalize you for fighting realistically, and rewards those who just wade in spamming the same strikes over and over.

Add all that on top of fighting with the sluggish gameplay, and unresponsive controls.

Best post ever. I try to stick and move and be conservative, but I'm just engulfed by these dude's against the fence. If I try to lunge out it becomes 50/50 where if they guess the side I'm lunging with a headkick or hook, I'm dead. Add to the fact that people can throw 100 plus a round with no stamina impact and I feel like I have to get in a firefight with these guys because there's no way I can drain them enough to have a chance in a 3 round fight.

[MMA Damage]

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Best post ever. I try to stick and move and be conservative, but I'm just engulfed by these dude's against the fence. If I try to lunge out it becomes 50/50 where if they guess the side I'm lunging with a headkick or hook, I'm dead. Add to the fact that people can throw 100 plus a round with no stamina impact and I feel like I have to get in a firefight with these guys because there's no way I can drain them enough to have a chance in a 3 round fight.

Its just terrible. The meta of the game is just pretty much walking someone down hook spamming. And they catered more to it with this update.


I mean I can go and still manage to pick my shots and outstrike these bums spamming with Lawler, Conor, Ngannou, etc. But since they only need one shot, sometimes they can manage to land it late. Especially with the garbage stamina tax reduction.


When they try to fight me from the outside and bait me with stationary sways, I usually pick them apart when I have all the spsce to pick my shots. And the knee and elbow spam is still prevalent since its hard to guess when its coming, to try side stepping and with the awesome input delay.

[Noledynasty2490]

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Its just terrible. The meta of the game is just pretty much walking someone down hook spamming. And they catered more to it with this update.


I mean I can go and still manage to pick my shots and outstrike these bums spamming with Lawler, Conor, Ngannou, etc. But since they only need one shot, sometimes they can manage to land it late. Especially with the garbage stamina tax reduction.


When they try to fight me from the outside and bait me with stationary sways, I usually pick them apart when I have all the spsce to pick my shots. And the knee and elbow spam is still prevalent since its hard to guess when its coming, to try side stepping and with the awesome input delay.

I'm telling you man. Buffing body kicks and reducing the catch window would change the meta so much for the better. Right now kickers are useless. I haven't seen anyone use a Pettis or Rodriguez. A naked kick takes SO LONG to load up that the guy you're fighting will have 4 hooked you to death before you even get your foot off the ground.

[Dave_S]

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I'm telling you man. Buffing body kicks and reducing the catch window would change the meta so much for the better. Right now kickers are useless. I haven't seen anyone use a Pettis or Rodriguez. A naked kick takes SO LONG to load up that the guy you're fighting will have 4 hooked you to death before you even get your foot off the ground.

I can sometimes land kicks with fast kickers as long as I'm planted and not moving.

[Noledynasty2490]

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I can sometimes land kicks with fast kickers as long as I'm planted and not moving.

In div 5 and 6 ranked? How? Show me de wai lol .

[Dave_S]

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In div 5 and 6 ranked? How? Show me de wai lol .

Division 5. You can't ever land a head kick? I have success with one of the r1 kicks, I forget which of the top of my head. Not great success, but I like throwing it occasion

[Stolm]

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Eh, I'll be back after the next patch, and hope the game isn't in such an embarrassing state.