Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #166
    Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

    Originally posted by FCB x Finlay
    What can be done to change it other than new mocap. I think its the only option.
    A few things:

    Return the back lunge to pre-patch effectiveness.

    Slightly increase backwards movement. Currently if someone is pushing forward and throwing a 3 strike combo, he will be able to land all 3 strikes even if im doing nothing but moving backwards.

    Maybe give strikes against an opponent who is using advancing strikes more stopping power. I havent completely thought this one through though.

    The concern by a lot of people is that it will encourage running but I think thats BS. I'll never understand why people seem to find ultra aggressiveness OK but find someone who has a patient and maybe "boring" something that has to be prevented.
    Last edited by aholbert32; 03-19-2018, 10:33 AM.

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    • FCB x Finlay
      MVP
      • Nov 2017
      • 1293

      #167
      Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      A few things:

      Return the back lunge to pre-patch effectiveness.

      Slightly increase backwards movement. Currently if someone is pushing forward and throwing a 3 strike combo, he will be able to land all 3 strikes even if im doing nothing but moving forward.

      Maybe give strikes against an opponent who is using advancing strikes more stopping power. I havent completely thought this one through though.

      The concern by a lot of people is that it will encourage running but I think thats BS. I'll never understand why people seem to find ultra aggressiveness OK but find someone who has a patient and maybe "boring" something that has to be prevented.
      What about sideways movement.

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      • johnmangala
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4525

        #168
        Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

        I found with the flick (small/short) lunges you have to commit to them.

        If you make them miss with a flick lunge: you just barely get out of the way but still have space for a counter.

        They have less vulnerability than advanced lunges (especially side to side), but appear and feel more risky because they cover so little distance imo.

        I wouldn’t mind a slight boost to the distance covered by lunges (more in the case of flick lunges), just have the footwork stat mean more.

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        • Dave_S
          Dave
          • Apr 2016
          • 7835

          #169
          Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

          It would be interesting to test small lunges with fighter with high footwork stat vs low footwork stat. I might to that late today.

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #170
            Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

            Originally posted by FCB x Finlay
            What about sideways movement.
            I'm fine with making the sideways lunge more effective off the cage so that you can circle off the cage more effectively.

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            • Thetruth9012
              MVP
              • Oct 2013
              • 1287

              #171
              Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              I'm fine with making the sideways lunge more effective off the cage so that you can circle off the cage more effectively.
              Yes pls i talking about this since the beta.

              I would also like to see different animation than lunge it look weird to me.

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              • Dankoz
                Rookie
                • Sep 2017
                • 258

                #172
                Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                It's impossible after these patches. IMO game was better at first place.
                Last edited by Dankoz; 03-19-2018, 02:31 PM.

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                • gtrimolet
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 37

                  #173
                  Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  I didnt because it was useless. The new patch made it impossible to use the back lunge to create space. I'm dissapointed about what happened so I'm going to chill from playing online until movement is addressed in a way to make it possible to fight from the outside.
                  back lunging was the most effective way to punish sway spammers but now i cant even use it anymore

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                  • Dave_S
                    Dave
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 7835

                    #174
                    Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                    Originally posted by gtrimolet
                    back lunging was the most effective way to punish sway spammers but now i cant even use it anymore
                    I really wish I could roundhouse sway spammers into oblivion.

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                    • Phillyboi207
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 3159

                      #175
                      Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                      Originally posted by Dankoz
                      It's impossible after these patches. IMO game was better at first place.
                      1st patch was really good.


                      2nd one regressed gameplay

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                      • MMA Damage
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2018
                        • 161

                        #176
                        Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                        Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                        1st patch was really good.


                        2nd one regressed gameplay
                        And beta was better than both and more responsive.

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #177
                          Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                          Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                          1st patch was really good.


                          2nd one regressed gameplay
                          I only think it regressed this kind of gameplay (outside fighting). People seem happy with the other changes.

                          Dont get me wrong though. I'm upset about it. The game felt like it was going in a good direction with varied fighting styles but now its back to the way it was before. Inside fighting rules and there are alot of people who seem fine with that.

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                          • Dave_S
                            Dave
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 7835

                            #178
                            Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                            Can someone give me a decent real life example of fighting from the outside? Preferably something I can watch on fight pass.

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                            • Noledynasty2490
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 20

                              #179
                              Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                              To answer OPs question. No. I have no idea.

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                              • aholbert32
                                (aka Alberto)
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 33106

                                #180
                                Re: Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

                                Originally posted by Dave_S
                                Can someone give me a decent real life example of fighting from the outside? Preferably something I can watch on fight pass.
                                A Wonderboy fight. Early Machida fight.

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