Can Someone Show Me How Outside Fighting Is Done?

[johnmangala]

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Yeah dude, using mixed weight classes option in tournament mode and probably event mode too!

Demetrious vs anyone up to and including LW

Try it out. Actually a perfect matchup for this discussion as Nate has good boxing and DJ pressures a lot as AI.

You can, and if you let the AI sim it you often get hilarious results. My friend TheUFCVeteran did a stream of one where Rashad Evans subbed Werdum in R2 and Frankie Edgar KO'd Yoel Romero in 9 seconds too lmao

That's awesome lol. Gonna play around with this. Thanks.

Sad we can't do DJ v Struv like that UD3 bug.

[Solid_Altair]

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What about tuning of long term damage instead, like you can land like 6 or 7 headkicks/overhands at several points through a round without getting a rock. Shouldnt landing something heavy have a greater reward, and both are really blockable and counterable so it doesnt effect balance to much.

TBH, I think perma damage is in a good place, too. After you take some heat, pretty much anything starts to rock you.

[ExOicho]

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The biggest issue, which nobody seems to be talking about for some reason, is that people are throwing power punches while moving, constantly.

In real life, that doesn't happen. There are stepping and lunging strikes, sure, but when you're actually throwing power punches, especially in combinations, you're supposed to be PLANTING YOUR FEET! I'm not sure how the EA UFC gameplay devs didn't understand this. You're not supposed to be able to just be stepping forward constantly throwing hooks at proper power. They need to be SIGNIFICANTLY weaker while moving.

[fballturkey]

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The size difference here is comparable to that UD3 bug. Nate is huge next to him.

We need that “bug” back. Any glitches it caused didn’t matter because it was a bug but it allowed totally free and hilarious matchmaking.

[Haz____]

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The biggest issue, which nobody seems to be talking about for some reason, is that people are throwing power punches while moving, constantly.

In real life, that doesn't happen. There are stepping and lunging strikes, sure, but when you're actually throwing power punches, especially in combinations, you're supposed to be PLANTING YOUR FEET! I'm not sure how the EA UFC gameplay devs didn't understand this. You're not supposed to be able to just be stepping forward constantly throwing hooks at proper power. They need to be SIGNIFICANTLY weaker while moving.

Ive said the same thing. Constantly moving while striking is not how fighting works. Its just not.

Youre supposed to find your way in, plant, throw, find your way out.


Like you said, you can hop in with a jab/straight, lead hook irl, but you rarely see guys running full ball at each other winging hooks and power punches. Because thats just not how physics work.

Power in your strikes comes from the energy transferring through a kinetic chain. A leaping strike doesnt have a kinetic chain, thus alhasless power.

Forward lunging strikes like that also leave you wide open and vulnerable to counter strikes.

The way striking works in this game honestly makes no sense.

[SeparatedNose]

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If it gets any higher, the stronger attacks will always rock people on normal hit. That wouldn't feel very organic and would cross a bad breakpoint for balance.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Then tweak how rocks work. I understand the concept of balance. If you change one thing you will have to rebalance something else. That’s not really a sufficient reason to not improve the game.

I think that your opponent should react realistically to strikes. If Anthony Johnson blasts you in the face with a clean hook, you’re rocked (if lucky) or unconscious.

I’m just hoping this franchise continues in the way its going towards more realism, but it’s not quite there yet.

MMA is exciting and super entertaining to watch. Why wouldn’t the game strive to emulate as realistically as possible the aspects of MMA that make it so exciting in the first place?

We’re headed in the right direction, but the constant talk of attempts at more realism creating balance issues it makes me wonder if there’s only so much mileage we can get out of his framework EA has built.

I’m a believer that it’s possible. Sucks that most of the game changers don’t seem to agree.

[SeparatedNose]

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Ive said the same thing. Constantly moving while striking is not how fighting works. Its just not.

Youre supposed to find your way in, plant, throw, find your way out.


Like you said, you can hop in with a jab/straight, lead hook irl, but you rarely see guys running full ball at each other winging hooks and power punches. Because thats just not how physics work.

Power in your strikes comes from the energy transferring through a kinetic chain. A leaping strike doesnt have a kinetic chain, thus alhasless power.

Forward lunging strikes like that also leave you wide open and vulnerable to counter strikes.

The way striking works in this game honestly makes no sense.

A superman punch seems to defy the logic you’re putting forth, but I get what you’re trying to say.

I agree that the logic of the striking and the damage system are totally unintuitive.

[Phillyboi207]

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A superman punch seems to defy the logic you’re putting forth, but I get what you’re trying to say.

I agree that the logic of the striking and the damage system are totally unintuitive.

Superman punches arent super powerful lol

Sitting down on a straight and turning your hip will have more power

[iHazCode]

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Sorry for going off topic but...

WTH Happened on this thread, why is everyone banned LOL?

[Phillyboi207]

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Sorry for going off topic but...

WTH Happened on this thread, why is everyone banned LOL?

The mods here are too strict

Some of the best posters were banned waaaay too easily

Wont be long before this forum is either dead or a complete circle jerk

(Inb4 I’m banned)

[aholbert32]

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The mods here are too strict

Some of the best posters were banned waaaay too easily

Wont be long before this forum is either dead or a complete circle jerk

(Inb4 I’m banned)

This forum wont die. People get banned and they eventually come back and obey the rules. Big Cee has been banned like 4 times and he's back again. Same with many of the other guys.

[kehlis]

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The mods here are too strict

Some of the best posters were banned waaaay too easily

Wont be long before this forum is either dead or a complete circle jerk

(Inb4 I’m banned)

ACtually, any user that's banned has either been given ample warning or completely gone off the rails as you just did.

Consider this your warning and my recommendation is to keep to the discussion of the topic rather than the moderation of the site.

You have no idea what happens not in a public view so your better off not assuming you know better.

[Phillyboi207]

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This forum wont die. People get banned and they eventually come back and obey the rules. Big Cee has been banned like 4 times and he's back again. Same with many of the other guys.

I hope you’re right

I’d be terrified if this ended up like some of the other sport game sections.

[Phillyboi207]

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ACtually, any user that's banned has either been given ample warning or completely gone off the rails as you just did.

Consider this your warning and my recommendation is to keep to the discussion of the topic rather than the moderation of the site.

You have no idea what happens not in a public view so your better off not assuming you know better.

Lmao such an ego. I’d hardly call that “gone off the rails”

Just tell me you want me to stay on topic and the problem is solved. Trying to flex wont get you anywhere.

But anyway I’m done with it. I’m only here for the Devs/Gcs input, not yours.

[aholbert32]

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I hope you’re right

I’d be terrified if this ended up like some of the other sport game sections.

This forum has been the main UFC forum for over a year with the same rules and there hasnt been much of a difference in activity.

The rules are in place so that the devs and members have a conductive and mature place to discuss the game, positive or negative. If someone's behavior threatens that, they are typically warned or removed.

Those rules are the reason you are able to get input from the devs here. If they werent in place, I doubt GPD would be here.